Posted on 07/05/2011 7:27:58 AM PDT by freebird5850
Morning all, didn't see a thread for today so I created one.
I’m the exact same when it comes to Hannity. I can’t listen to him and I only watch him to see which guests he has on. If you’ve heard his radio show once, you’ve heard them all. It basically goes like this, “At the bottom of the first hour, we’ll have former Clinton strategist Dick Morris on to talk about the latest Fox News Poll, then we’ll have former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, then former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani. At the bottom of the final hour, we’ll have a shootout with my good pal, former Democrat strategist Bob Beckel.”
I’ll be happy to answer your questions when you answer mine.
Right. An acute MI in a two year old girl, huh?
Not one iota of EVIDENCE that it was an accident
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I admit, I wasn’t sold on the chloroform—what was odd...my mother was.
My mother thought Casey used chloroform to keep Caylee out and in the trunk while she partied, for months and months before the death.
I can’t see that— as I understand chloroform it has a temp effect, it is not like a sleeping pill.
Nobody explained that to us and I also didn’t appreciate the 84 times as a BIG deal in the trial, then it was one time...and then the state didn’t explain that on close.
What the L was it?!!!
I pitched that aside but the duct tape sold me on murder.
I didn’t believe George on the affair and thought his comments about laughing about it... ‘that’s funny to me’—turned me off. Really, he should have skipped that. Admitted an affair or done the simple yes/no.
No! I don’t think he covered for a drowned Caylee or had ANYTHING to do with Caylee’s death. I think he is just a liar like the rest of the family. I don’t believe him or ANY of them.
The defense witness (bug guy from Wash I think) said the trunk smelled TWO years later, the carpet had been removed by that time, too.
Chit, I clean my fridge and dump stuff that gets stinky in my garbage bins(closed top big bins)I can smell it all in my garage, but guess what, that smell is gone once the truck picks it up and does the mechanical empty.
Even inside the cans aren’t very smelly -at all- after.
There are the 31 days and even the wildest party-girl can’t reconcile THAT. So, number 14 doesn’t believe molesting—then WHY did Casey hide this for THREE years in jail, almost go to death for her father?!
GIVE ME A BREAK! To buy all this as innocence— or beyond REASONABLE doubt—one needs to take leave of any sense.
Naaah. I've wasted too much time on you already.
all 12 jurors?? who happen to believe in the death penalty which points a little more to them being conservative...which points a little more to them being in a higher intelligence bracket....so what are the chances that all 12 are complete morally bankrupt idiots?? You are “stat” man and you can’t do the math there??? ;0) Come on.... I hated statistics in college, but even I know the probability of that is close to nil..... And, in my experience, those types tend to be followers of what is “conventientional”...easy...road less traveled.... why would THEY come up with this verdict if they didn’t believe it?
That’s what I thought. Good night.
Money, book deals.
Exactly.
Where is there ANY EVIDENCE that it was an accident?
Where is there ANY EVIDENCE that George Anthony had anything to do with it?
Baez played dirty/unethical (lied and threw out stuff he had no intention of proving) He didn’t have to. He knew it was out there and would be used as evidence by the jurors.
There was plenty of evidence there was a “dead body in the damn car”.
Where did the death band hair of Caylee’s come from? As Casey said, it wasn’t hers, she was alive.
How did the alernate juror know what the others thought if they weren’t discussing the case before deliberations. He wasn’t part of them and they were separated from the jurors today.
Who was the last person to see Caylee? Who lied about where she was for 31 days? Who was looking for Caylee (not Casey).
Who had access to Caylees’s clothes, blanket, pillow case, laundry bag? Who had decomposition on their clothes that her mother washed? Carrying a dead body will do that.
Whose cell phone pinged that site many times?
Who borrowed a shovel?
Who had time since she wasn’t working but sitting on her butt all day while her parents worked and accounted for?
NO EVIDENCE? MY BUTT!
The only one who wasted time (and quite politely and patiently I might add) was you DrewsMum. Your posts are very good for all to read.
That's good to know.
But you weren't on trial. And if Miss Anthony is a psychopath (which seems rather likely), she might very well do such a thing. Such behavior doesn't indicate murder or manslaughter; it indicates psychopathy. The trial was for the former, not the latter.
Disclaimer: I am not a professional in either the mental health or legal fields, and my comments are not to be taken as more than personal opinions.
Well, from that, we can conclude that you, Alissa, don't really believe that following the law is important.
And what a splendid way of saving money....let's just get rid of that "innocent until proven guilty" principle!
There was a preponderance of circumstanlial evidense in this case, [...]
Fine.
That will get you a Grand Jury indictment, or a family court judgement.
But this was a criminal trial. The standard of evidence is above "preponderance of the evidence"...and it's even beyond "clear and convincing evidence" or "Clear, Unequivocal, Satisfactory, and Convincing Evidence", etc.
Those are lower standards than what the law (oh, that pesky "law" thing again!) prescribes for this criminal trial, where a person's liberty (and even life) is at stake.
Circumstantial evidence is fine and common sense is fine, just like evaluating veracity of witnesses is fine. But the highest standard of proof is still required--throughout this great land of America...state to state, even in Florida.
Ok, but if they had found her guilty, then they wouldn’t have gotten book deals, etc?
I understand, maybe they’ll be more in demand now....but, also, they’ll be more hated...why not go with what will make you look good to everyone AND be able to get the book deals??
Why didn’t they charge her with corpse abuse, can they do that now? Endangerment?
Also, if the jury in any way bought the drowning story—why wouldn’t they nail her with child abuse/neglect? Involuntary manslaughter. I understand skipping the verdict of—1st degree murder—I wouldn’t have went for that, either. No matter what my mother thinks :p
(child abuse and manslaughter were a choice, no?)
Why would George be responsible for a drowning and not Casey—Casey was the mother. Is this like Obamacare?!?! The parents are responsible until 25! Is this the new standard?
People are charged with manslaughter for drownings etc plenty—the theory that the illegally talking jury believed. (according to comments by juror 14)
http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080716/NEWS02/807160336
http://www.militarysos.com/forum/news/75231-baby-sitter-19-drinking-before-2-toddlers-drowned.html
sleeping with an adult as police offered Casey as an ‘out’
http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/41004267.html
There were so many other choices—I just DON’T understand!
Where did you get that idea? from Jose Baez. Exactly...
Where did you get your information, pundits on television?
Some of us actually read the EVIDENCE, obviously, you didn't.
I can tell you the verdict would have been different or the jury would have been hung if this woman was on the jury.
all 12 jurors?? who happen to believe in the death penalty which points a little more to them being conservative...
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That is dishonest, I KNOW for a FACT that two of them were against the DP and Perry wouldn’t allow them to be dismissed.
I think you assume and paint too much with a wide brush....
All I can think of is the line from Al Pacino in The Devil’s Advocate:
“We’re coming out...guns blazing....ll of us, acquittal after acquittal after acquittal...until the stench of it reaches so high and far into Heaven it chokes the whole @$#@ing lot of them!”
There must have been a HUGE conspiracy since more than two dogs smelled decamp, tow guy smelled it, Casey’s parents smelled it, a dozen or more police officers smelled it, forensics smelled it, Lee smelled it...
Casey was the only person driving her car. There was Caylee’s hair with a death band in her trunk.
You do know that she tried to set up her boyfriend before Jose came up with the molestation by her father and /or Lee? She even had Cindy & George believing her. George bought a gun to go after him and Casey’s friends who they were convinced knew what happened to Caylee. Who do you think put that idea in their head?
Hmm... so I’m saying the jury was completely lacking in intelligence, you’re saying they were completely lacking in ethical standards of morality/behavior (ignoring the truth in favor of punishing prosecution behavior they didn’t like.)
There’s another option: Maybe it was six of one, and half a dozen of the other.
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I am judging here and assuming, from listening to the 14th juror as my control.
Judging from him, I say yes, they were punishing, not judging facts.
I could be just as wrong as I feel they were—but that’s my opinion. I SEE the evidence and can’t find any other reason to ignore the evidence, other than what I believe at this point.
I can’t wrap my mind around such stupidity but vengeance—yeah, sure thang...
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