Scientists reveal a first in Ice Age art

PhysOrg.com ^ | 06-21-2011 | Provided by Smithsonian

[Sacajaweau]

Does it make a lot of sense that only one object was carved into the bone??

[muawiyah]

And, given the date, it looks to have been done just before the beginning of the Younger Dryas. Probably wouldn’t have had time to get wear marks.

[SunkenCiv]

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[SunkenCiv]

approximately 13,000 years old

Hey, it's been a little while...

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The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes: Flood, Fire, and Famine in the History of Civilization by Richard Firestone, Allen West, and Simon Warwick-Smith

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[decimon]

You’re pretty hard on de Bivar tonight.

[SunkenCiv]

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[muawiyah]

You mean about Dan Boone's wife's people? That's their name. Folks always wondered if Dan had old Spanish maps available. He may well have.

Many Spanish grandees had interests in the Spanish Netherlands as you recall ~ and some relocated there. In Fact, Philip II actually lived in Brussels and only when he got older and felt the cold did he move to Spain.

[decimon]

You mean about Dan Boone's wife's people?

You are giving me far too much credit here. de Bivar = the Beaver.

"Ward, you were awfully hard on de Bivar last night."

[muawiyah]

Oh, that Beaver. Yes, entirely too shallow for me.

[Mike Darancette]

i know art was in its “infancy” and all that, but c’mon... it doesn’t even look like a wooly mammoth at all...

Early Impressionism?

[marsh2]

oh that is stunning!

[Pelham]

“Good night, Mrs. Calabash, wherever you are.”

[americanophile]

It's a surprisingly good depiction; there's a considerable amount of anatomical realism to it, but some of the drawings in Chauvet Cave in France and elsewhere are startlingly good - they're even in color.

[gleeaikin]

Given where it was found and the good condition, it makes sense that this was buried shortly before the great boloid event outlined by Firestone, et al.

“There are hundreds of depictions of proboscideans on cave walls and carved into bones in Europe, but none from America—until now.” However, this statement is wrong and indicative of insufficient interdisciplinary communication among researchers. Gloria Farley’s book In Plain Sight: Old World Records in Ancient America shows the petroglyphs of an elephant and hippopotamus in a site called The Anubis Caves. Given various aspects of cave markings—pictures and writing found there, it is suggested that the site in or near Oklahoma could be 3,000 to 3,500 year old. The writings seem to be north African and Celtic. This age if correct could correspond to the time of the mysterious Sea People of the Mediterranean. Her book also refers to several other finds of elephant petroglyphs. The one in the Anubis caves does not have the upsloped profile of the Columbian mammoth.

[Red Badger]

Yes, it that was the only thing the artist was interested in at the time. Or he/she could have been eaten by a saber toothed tiger because they were so intensely into their art and did not notice it creeping up...............

[Sacajaweau]

They started smoking weeds and everything went to pot.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

You are giving me far too much credit here. de Bivar = the Beaver.

“Ward, you were awfully hard on de Bivar last night.”

That is almost enough for me to change my ID to Campiador or Rodrigo.

[decimon]

That is almost enough for me to change my ID to Campiador or Rodrigo.

Nah, just stay away from Ward.

[muawiyah]

The saber toothed tigers (all three species) were definitely into giant elephant meat.

One does suppose they regularly scavenged competing predators.

[muawiyah]

Seriously guys, I'd never noticed Dan Boone's genealogy before and just a few weeks ago I was looking at where he settled in Missouri (on his Spanish land grant).

It was right there at Arrow Rock

That spot is at the intersection of a line drawn from the foot of Memorial bridge in DC (furthest North a Spanish galleon could sail in Chesapeake Bay's Potomac Arm), and all sorts of other points of interest on what is now US 50 ~ AND a line drawn from Arrow Rock due North through several sites of interest to some of my earliest ancestors (including the little crick that feeds Lake Itasca, Seymour Iowa and, lo and behold, Alexandria Minnesota home of the Kensington Rune Stone!

I take both lines to be Spanish survey lines for the purpose of delineating French and English boundaries (per the Treaty of London 1604 as dictated by Philip III), and baselines for the purpose of proving surveys West of the Mississippi, and from the Ohio South to the Gulf.

Several other lines surveyed by the Spanish in North America are quite long ~ these are just longer ~ and appear to have been done by different teams.

Anyway, that's where Dan Boone and his wife ended up. They left behind many other relatives along the US 50 line as it made its way through Ohio, Indiana and Illinois (including relatives they didn't even talk to anymore).

It's like Ol'Dan had a Spanish Map.

So, yeah, Compriador is OK ~ it'd still triggered the de Biber or Van Beeber name.

Now, if that's not enough, then Stune Me With A Beeber!