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Sheriff releases video of SWAT shooting into house of ex-Marine
KOLD News 13 Tucson ^ | 5/26/2011 | Michael Truelsen

Posted on 05/26/2011 10:23:23 PM PDT by nparker99

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To: Berlin_Freeper
The “siren” ran for exactly 8 seconds and stopped, and it sounded like a car alarm. I hear that a couple of times a week, and don't give it a second thought. If that is the police idea of “announcing themselves” then it is pathetic, indeed.

As far as the shouting, I couldn't understand WHAT they were saying. I doubt if someone in the house would have either.

The Marine went from asleep to figuring out what his wife was saying, assuming a defensive position, and telling her to take cover - all in 17 seconds. He had his safety on while he was assessing the threat.

Well done Marine!

If “procedures” cause him to be killed under these circumstances, then the procedures suck. A reasonable man acting in a reasonable fashion should not be murdered in his own house by police in that fashion.

Shame on you for sticking up for this trash.

101 posted on 05/27/2011 7:33:29 AM PDT by Fido969
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour; Elendur; Berlin_Freeper
Like I said, this particular version of the videotape was edited to make it look like little warning was given. There was an audiotape released too. Based on that audiotape, this article states that SWAT was yelling and identifying themselves for thirty minutes before they entered (fake invaders wouldn't do that).
102 posted on 05/27/2011 7:45:21 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Also what I noticed this time that it is very clear that the SWAT members were surprised by the man inside with the gun. You can clearly see them react with surprise when they started shooting.

They say they used a SWAT team to serve the search warrant because they expected the suspect to armed.

103 posted on 05/27/2011 7:53:30 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: Moonman62
that SWAT was yelling and identifying themselves for thirty minutes before they entered

If I read the article correctly, that was after he was dead.

104 posted on 05/27/2011 8:29:04 AM PDT by Getsmart64
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To: Moonman62
Based on that audiotape, this article states that SWAT was yelling and identifying themselves for thirty minutes before they entered (fake invaders wouldn't do that).

Neither would the cops.. 30 seconds I buy, but 30 minutes? Not a snowballs chance in hell, not ever would a SWAT Team stand at anyones door for 30 minutes...

105 posted on 05/27/2011 8:32:04 AM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour (With The Resistance...)
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To: Moonman62
Based on that audiotape, this article states that SWAT was yelling and identifying themselves for thirty minutes before they entered (fake invaders wouldn't do that).

Neither would the cops.. 30 seconds I buy, but 30 minutes? Not a snowballs chance in hell, not ever would a SWAT Team stand at anyones door for 30 minutes...

106 posted on 05/27/2011 8:32:22 AM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour (With The Resistance...)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

The wife said she saw the police through her window, and the police saw her. Is that indicated on the videotape? Perhaps that’s why they took more time.


107 posted on 05/27/2011 8:39:35 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Berlin when those who are being investigated are being investigated by their own how do you think it will turn out?

I am pretty pro-cop. But this case doesn’t pass the smell test. I have relatives that are officers or retired officers and they protect their own period.

I am willing to give the swat benefit of the doubt to a point, but blindly trusting that city hall will do the right thing, not happening.

Trust but verify.


108 posted on 05/27/2011 8:52:42 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: Moonman62

Its not indicated on the video, but alot of what the SWAT Team claims happened isn’t on the video.

This was a murder under color of law, these cops need to be jailed and the widow should sue for multiple millions.

At some point the people will grow tired of Gestapo style tactics such as these... and the backlash will be epic.


109 posted on 05/27/2011 8:52:59 AM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour (With The Resistance...)
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To: sarge83
Berlin when those who are being investigated are being investigated by their own how do you think it will turn out?

It'll turn out the same way it always does... the only bodies who have the tacit authority to investigate themselves are Congress and US Law Enforcement... two stellar institutions if there ever was one...

110 posted on 05/27/2011 8:55:47 AM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour (With The Resistance...)
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Its not indicated on the video, but alot of what the SWAT Team claims happened isn’t on the video.

The video is incomplete and altered. An unedited video, and more complete audiotapes exist. What's important is that the facts come out.

111 posted on 05/27/2011 9:01:02 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Fido969
From the time that the door was knocked in to the shooting was about 5 seconds.

According to your own assessment of the video - That is the only 5 seconds these people could claim they thought it was a home invasion. That is definitely not enough time to grab a gun and be stationed in the hallway.

Before that, what you have is a "car alarm" according to you and unrecognizable mumbling sounds at the door, again according to you.

Thank you for clearing the SWAT Team in this matter. I was waiting for the investigations to be completed but you have persuaded me the police were not at fault.

112 posted on 05/27/2011 9:20:58 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Obama can't see something pure like the truth without wanting to abort it.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Didn’y have enough time to figure out it was a home invastion, but had enough time to grab a gun and take up a stance against the police?

Hey, read the wife’s statement. He didn’t own an AR-15.

Murderers and a cover-up.


113 posted on 05/27/2011 9:25:29 AM PDT by Fido969
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To: Berlin_Freeper
From the time that the door was knocked in to the shooting was about 5 seconds.

You MUST be a cop because you are such a liar, it's 17 seconds, bootlicker.

114 posted on 05/27/2011 9:26:34 AM PDT by Fido969
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To: sarge83
There are several investigations I was waiting for including the County Attorneys Office. But post 101 by Fido969 has greatly convinced me that the police are in fact innocent.

Do you really think that so many others would be willing to lie and put themselves at risk of being locked up to do a bunch of “murderers” a favor?

115 posted on 05/27/2011 9:27:42 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Obama can't see something pure like the truth without wanting to abort it.)
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To: Fido969
Oh so now you are alleging the police planted evidence?

Man this stuff really is predictable.

116 posted on 05/27/2011 9:29:19 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Obama can't see something pure like the truth without wanting to abort it.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Read the wife’s statement, Sherlock.


117 posted on 05/27/2011 9:30:03 AM PDT by Fido969
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To: Fido969
It took 6 seconds, from 0:54 to 1:00 in the video.

Before that all they must have heard was “a car alarm” and mumbling at the door.

You just proved the cops innocent. Be proud.

118 posted on 05/27/2011 9:32:42 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Obama can't see something pure like the truth without wanting to abort it.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
You'd better stop popping those steroids, they're affecting your brain. 0:40 to 0:57.

You probably missed it because you were all sexually aroused seeing those thugs in their combat gear.

119 posted on 05/27/2011 9:41:38 AM PDT by Fido969
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To: Fido969
But according to you in post 101 genius, from 0:40 to 0:54 all that the people could have possibly heard in the house was a car alarm and mumbling at the door.

People don't think “home invasion” because they hear a car alarm and talking on the street.

Again thank you for clearing the matter up, which favors the police.

I am forwarding your observations to the investigations via email. Good job!

120 posted on 05/27/2011 9:47:18 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Obama can't see something pure like the truth without wanting to abort it.)
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