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REPEAT OF 1962? (Missile Threat from Venezuela)
Urgent Agenda ^ | May 16, 2011 | William Katz

Posted on 05/17/2011 6:07:28 AM PDT by SumProVita

Having experienced the Cuban Missile Crisis at the CIA, Langley, ion 1962, I have little enthusiasm for a repeat. But we may get one. A German newspaper is running a disturbing report:

BERLIN – The Iranian government is moving forward with the construction of rocket launch bases in Venezuela, the German daily Die Welt wrote in its Friday edition.

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez is Teheran’s most important South American ally.

Iran is building intermediate- range missile launch pads on the Paraguaná Peninsula, and engineers from a construction firm – Khatam al-Anbia – owned by the Revolutionary Guards visited Paraguaná in February. Amir al-Hadschisadeh, the head of the Guard’s Air Force, participated in the visit, according to the report. Die Welt cited information from “Western security insiders.”

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: hugochavez; iran; irannukes; missilecrisis; proliferation; southamerica; terrorism; venezuela
This deserves a LOT more attention. Note that this comes from the German press....since journalism in the USA is in a particularly sorry state.
1 posted on 05/17/2011 6:07:31 AM PDT by SumProVita
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To: SumProVita

ohhhh only this time the _resident agrees with the Iranians and Hugo that we are evil and need to have nuclear missles pointed at us....fascist imperialist that we are...(is “sarc” really necessary?)


2 posted on 05/17/2011 6:10:27 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: SumProVita

Watch Obama send Chavez taxpayer money to upgrade his missles to ICBMs.


3 posted on 05/17/2011 6:10:46 AM PDT by Obadiah (I don't mind Obama's vacations. It's his coming back that bothers me.)
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To: SumProVita

oh crap and we’ve got you know who supposedly protecting us.


4 posted on 05/17/2011 6:10:56 AM PDT by Principled (Get the capital back! NRST!)
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To: SumProVita

Time for some serious sabotage.


5 posted on 05/17/2011 6:11:09 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (A communist is just a liberal in a hurry)
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To: SumProVita
This deserves a LOT more attention. Note that this comes from the German press....since journalism in the USA is in a particularly sorry state.

Arnold Schwarzenegger has a love child, so the Iranians are breathing easy as our media will be tied up for the next week or so, plus there's some American Idol crap that's going on.
6 posted on 05/17/2011 6:12:18 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: SumProVita

Ok, let’s get the Europeans to join a task force with us to take out chavez. Isn’t that the way it’s done now ? /sarc


7 posted on 05/17/2011 6:12:50 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (Huguenot)
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To: SumProVita

Nuke ‘em both. That’ll stop it.


8 posted on 05/17/2011 6:13:24 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. *4192*)
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To: SumProVita

I was on a destroyer off the coast of Cuba in 1962, a freshly enlisted teenager with only 3 or 4 months of service.
We need to park a carrier group off the coast of Venezuela.
Direct violation of the Monroe Doctrine.
Iran makes this a much more dangerous situation.


9 posted on 05/17/2011 6:16:02 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Obama did not learn incompetence; he was born to it.)
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To: reagan_fanatic

Sabotage won’t cut it.

Hez is actually building their religious base in the whole of Venezuela, as well as in other areas of South America, like Peru. Just watched one of their quran/arab classes.

The expansion is *very* quick now. The time to act was five years ago, or even ten.


10 posted on 05/17/2011 6:16:10 AM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: SumProVita
The rocket bases are to include measures to prevent air attacks on Venezuela as well as commando and control stations.

Really? Commandos?

11 posted on 05/17/2011 6:16:26 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (The 'Affirmative Action' pResident that destroyed America)
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To: SumProVita
On July 25th, 1787, John Jay wrote to George Washington, then Presiding Officer of the Constitutional Convention:

"“Permit me to hint, whether it would be wise and seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expressly that the Commander in Chief of the American Army shall not be given to nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen.”

The Convention agreed and without debate the provision suggested by Jay was written into the Constitution.

That Jay’s advice was taken is not surprising because in his career Jay was President of the Continental Congress, Chief Justice of the New York Supreme Court, 1st Chief Justice of the United States, Ambassador to Spain and France, Secretary of Foreign Affairs (Secretary of State) and Governor of New York, among other things. He wasn’t a man whose advice could be ignored. Note that what particularly concerned Jay was not a political issue but a military issue arising because the President is Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States. He was bothered by issues of National Security."

12 posted on 05/17/2011 6:16:26 AM PDT by Diogenesis ( Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: SumProVita

Our “gutsy” president Zer0 will take care of it...heh heh


13 posted on 05/17/2011 6:16:54 AM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance...)
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To: SumProVita

obama will not act on this. He does what Jarrett tells him to do and guess where she was born? Iran.


14 posted on 05/17/2011 6:18:30 AM PDT by Peter from Rutland
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To: BuffaloJack

My guess is that Obama doesn’t know much about the Monroe Doctrine. His knowledge of history is overwhelmingly insufficient.

You are quite correct about the involvement of Iran. It is extremely dangerous.


15 posted on 05/17/2011 6:22:15 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: SumProVita

Nothing here yet. It would be helpful if we knew which missile system is being installed.

http://missilethreat.com/thethreat/pageID.247/default.asp


16 posted on 05/17/2011 6:23:50 AM PDT by PeteCat
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To: SumProVita
The Cuban missile crisis was so much fun we're going to do a repeat.

One of these days I hope people figure out a weakling as president is what causes these kind of problems.

Probably won't be before millions end up dead though.

17 posted on 05/17/2011 6:27:47 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: IMR 4350

“One of these days I hope people figure out a weakling as president is what causes these kind of problems.”

That day won’t arrive without some comprehensive reform of the educational system. ;-(


18 posted on 05/17/2011 6:35:19 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: SumProVita

To Barack 0bama, history began in 1960. Everything that happened before then is irrelevant.


19 posted on 05/17/2011 6:39:16 AM PDT by reg45
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To: IMR 4350

I’m beginning to believe that the majority of Americans are pretty much IDIOTS. The left has taken us down a path to ruin and most people in this country are only worried about who is going to win on American Idol or Dancing with the Stars. It makes me sick to my stomach to think about.


20 posted on 05/17/2011 6:41:43 AM PDT by Captain PJ
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To: SumProVita

Or nuclear weapons exploding over the U.S.


21 posted on 05/17/2011 6:42:58 AM PDT by Pecos (Constitutionalist. Liberty and Honor will not die on my watch.)
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To: IMR 4350

The big difference is that - for all his faults - Kennedy was a strong President, who loved his country, served in the Navy, and was willing to stand up to Castro and Khrushchev.


22 posted on 05/17/2011 6:44:29 AM PDT by reg45
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To: reg45

> The big difference is that - for all his faults - Kennedy was a strong President, who loved his country, served in the Navy, and was willing to stand up to Castro and Khrushchev.

Do you realize that there is absolutely nothing in your statement that even remotely describes the community organizer and current resident of the White House?


23 posted on 05/17/2011 6:49:00 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Obama did not learn incompetence; he was born to it.)
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To: Captain PJ
I’m beginning to believe that the majority of Americans are pretty much IDIOTS.

Roughly 30%-40% of all Americans are simply too stupid to live. It would be nice to be able to say that it was just the far left, or the Obama faction, but no such luck.

And most of the rest - up to 90-95%, seem to be victims of Stockholm Syndrome.

24 posted on 05/17/2011 6:51:45 AM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: SumProVita

He knows about the Monroe Doctrine. It was by dead white imperialist oppressor males /postmodern deconstructionist Marxist mode.


25 posted on 05/17/2011 6:51:59 AM PDT by Fred Hayek (All Hail the No Talent Pop Star pResident.)
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To: SumProVita

Sorry it’s not as important as O’s golf rankings.

If you think this is more important you must be a racist.


26 posted on 05/17/2011 6:55:59 AM PDT by Carley (We will not tire. We will not falter. We will not fail. W, 9/20/01)
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To: Fred Hayek

“He knows about the Monroe Doctrine. It was by dead white imperialist oppressor males /postmodern deconstructionist Marxist mode.”

Lol! Yes, I believe that you have accurately described his ideologically narrow realm of knowledge.


27 posted on 05/17/2011 6:58:17 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Captain PJ
Too many people live in a fantasy world and simply are afraid to face reality.

So many people now days grow up in sheltered lives, and have no real world experiences until their mid 20’s.

They're growing up believing the nonsense that we need to understand our enemies and we need to talk to them. Fighting isn't the answer, just walk away.

They have never been taught and have never been forced to learn that “just walk away” crap only works on the school yard. In real life you turn to walk away and more often than not you end up with a knife in your kidney.

28 posted on 05/17/2011 7:04:35 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: SumProVita

29 posted on 05/17/2011 7:05:07 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: reg45
It was Kennedy being perceived as weak that got us to that point.
30 posted on 05/17/2011 7:07:11 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: SumProVita

This could very easily be preparation for an EMP. Read about it in the novel “One Second After”. Not the greatest book ever written, but very sobering...


31 posted on 05/17/2011 8:46:17 AM PDT by Jerrybob
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To: IMR 4350

I believe you are correct on that (Kennedy being perceived as weak at the time). I think we found out later that it was by the grace of God that the missle crisis didn’t come to fruition. Kennedy did step up to the plate though.. thank goodness. I doubt this Jarret-run WH would side with the US during any future missle threats though.

My dad was stationed in GTMO during the ‘62 missle crisis. We kids (and mom) were evacuated 10-22-62 in preparation for war. (were able to return in Dec). I was in the 8th grade... but remember it well.


32 posted on 05/17/2011 12:52:34 PM PDT by DDLL
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To: DDLL
I was in the 2nd grade and I remember it well.

One thing I remember was the nonstop 24/7 military cargo planes flying right over our house as they moved everything north out of the range of the missile's.

Just a couple of miles west the planes were flying back to the south to pick up more and move it north.

We have some property they planned on using as a refuge camp if Houston needed to be evacuated.

My old man had served in WWII and was put on notice that he was subject to a recall to duty for the military presence in the area if needed. Because he was subject to recall we got 2 or 3 cans of the survival crackers and cans of water. Never did open them up and taste them, we had to turn them back in.

The military brought in surplus arms and ammo and stored it in the courthouse basement.

My old man had to sign a statement that he would be willing to order US troops to fire on American citizens if necessary. He and my mother went round and round on that one.

33 posted on 05/18/2011 6:38:14 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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