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To: higgmeister
In our modern times it is the best ally Christianity and Conservatives will ever find.

Why do I need an atheist anti-Christian philosophy as an ally? That is a bizarre assertion. If someone wants to adopt a philosphy that has 'A is A', the principle of non-contradiction and a reasonable epistemology of the real world, they can choose something sensible, with a long history to it, like Scholasticism. It's been around a lot longer than Rand.

The non-religion and anti-opression tenets staunchly oppose Evil Islam.

The anti-religious tenets of Objectivism also oppose Christianity.

In spite of Objectivism rejecting faith... Qbjectivism could never be an enemy

If it rejects faith in Christ, it's no better than marxism or Islam.

Qbjectivism... is an unwavering Paladin standing at the shoulder of our Civilization.

These kind of exaggerations of Rand's importance in the scheme of human history doesn't help to make the Rand cult sound any less loony.

31 posted on 04/25/2011 1:28:05 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
Why do I need an atheist anti-Christian philosophy as an ally? That is a bizarre assertion.

Hint: Because Liberalism - Socialism and Islamism is in a life and death battle for our existence right now and you will have a perfect opportunity to convert the Objectivist in the passion of the moment while you are down in the foxhole together!

Your obstinacy and intransigence is a bizarre position.

33 posted on 04/25/2011 1:56:32 AM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
These kind of exaggerations of Rand's importance in the scheme of human history doesn't help to make the Rand cult sound any less loony.

Additionally, I am not even thinking of "importance in the scheme of human history," I am thinking of right this moment while we are witnessing Christians with their heads cut off by Satanic Islamists and our nation being defeated from within by Socialism up to the Commander-in-Chief!

Conservatives and Christians need to focus on the real enemies not the meaningless enemy of Ayn Rand rejecting faith. She never said let's kill all of the people that go to church as Islam and Communism have and a few of our Liberal enemies do every day.

SUN TZU'S FIRST essential rule for victory, "Choose Your Battles Wisely."

35 posted on 04/25/2011 2:15:54 AM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode; higgmeister


"In our modern times it is the best ally Christianity and Conservatives will ever find. "


That is similar to the saying, "our enemy's enemy is our friend" and like the same sort of reasoning Islam used to ally itself with the Nazis - using atheism to stamp out Judaism...simply because the opportunity presented itself. A parallel can also be seen in how Marxism/communism/socialism has allied itself with Islam, to stamp out its biggest enemy - Christianity...simply because the opportunity exists and presents itself.

Why in the world should Christianity deliberately ally itself with an anti-Christ? We are not of this world and neither is our goal. We are so far above that, that we have no desire and no necessity to make our enemy and God's enemy our accomplice. Alignment with an anti-Christ is not exactly a Christian goal.


46 posted on 04/25/2011 4:42:23 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
Ethan Clive Osgoode said: "If it [Objectivism] rejects faith in Christ, it's no better than marxism or Islam. "

That's quite a leap.

I've never been much of a "joiner" because it is rare that I sufficiently identify with any given group's beliefs and goals that I felt comfortable being a member.

But what I do believe is much closer to "Objectivism" than to "Marxism" such that I find your statement rather troubling. Objectivism may "reject" Christianity, but I don't recall reading anything that suggested that Christians should be sent to penal institutions or death camps by Objectivists. My reading of Objectivism is that objectivists just want to be left alone by Christians.

I also am not aware of any analogy in Objectivism of Islam's mission to kill the infidels.

I don't claim to be an expert, but isn't it even a stretch to refer to "Christianity" as though it is one thing and not many things some of which are contradictory?

80 posted on 04/25/2011 11:35:59 AM PDT by William Tell
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