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Man brings grenade to sheriff's office in Silverdale
kitsapsun.com ^ | 3 Mar 2011 | Kitsap Sun staff

Posted on 03/03/2011 8:46:14 PM PST by smokingfrog

SILVERDALE — A Central Kitsap man brought a grenade to the Silverdale precinct of the Kitsap County Sheriff's Office Tuesday afternoon, prompting a short closure while the device was removed.

The man told deputies he found the World War II-era ("pineapple style") grenade recently when sorting through the belongings of his recently deceased father. He brought it to the sheriff's office to have it properly disposed of.

At about 2 p.m., the office was cleared out and parking lot blocked off so sheriff's deputies could determine what to do with the device. A deputy and a Washington State Patrol trooper, both members of the county's bomb squad, took it to a firing range where it was "rendered safe" with an explosive charge.

Deputies gave the man some instructions for the future.

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To: smokingfrog
A deputy and a Washington State Patrol trooper, both members of the county's bomb squad, took it to a firing range where it was "rendered safe" with an explosive charge.

Why didn't they just pull the pin and throw it while at the range, why waste other explosives on it? What a panic over a grenade that has been lying around harmlessly since the war. Bunch of wussies. I would have taken the damn thing out into the woods and thrown it without telling the cops about it. Telling the cops leaves you wide open to some stupid charge you never heard of.

21 posted on 03/03/2011 9:38:59 PM PST by calex59
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To: sinanju

Indeed.And that is why I say it is inert.How ‘bout you?


22 posted on 03/03/2011 9:45:21 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: smokingfrog

Good thing this didn’t happen in England or that guy would be in jail.

And that’s not a joke.

There were a bunch of threads a couple months back about how a guy found a gun that had been dumped in his yard or something, and, being a good citizen, took it to the police — who immediately threw him in jail.

IIRC, he was actually convicted because the British law says that mere possession of the gun, regardless of reason, demands conviction and punishment.


23 posted on 03/03/2011 9:51:23 PM PST by Ronin ("Dismantle the TSA and send the screeners back to Wal-Mart.")
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To: Deagle

I know, its refreshing to see law enforcement actually treat someone decently, and use some common sense, and not look for an excuse to throw the man in jail.


24 posted on 03/03/2011 9:55:13 PM PST by Husker24
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To: calex59

“I would have taken the damn thing out into the woods and thrown it without telling the cops about it. Telling the cops leaves you wide open to some stupid charge you never heard of.”

If that thing blows up a spotted owl in the woods, you better hope nobody hears it or you could be in BIG trouble!;)


25 posted on 03/03/2011 9:56:04 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: calex59

My roommate in school had one of those things. He used to call the plebes into our room and he would sit at his desk, the plebe standing at attention, and fiddle with the thing while talking about this and that. He would then “accidently” release the pin and let the handle fly off. Those poor kids would nearly jump out of their skins.


26 posted on 03/03/2011 9:56:56 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Husker24

You know, it really is... I have lost much faith in our law enforcement boys these days (used to have nothing but high regard)... Maybe it’s that union effect from Wisconsin (heh)... If the police continue to back the SEIU, I will have absolutely NO support for any of them...


27 posted on 03/03/2011 10:11:13 PM PST by Deagle (t)
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To: Deagle
We need more Andy Griffith, and less Nazi Storm trooper. Unfortunately the police seem to be more militarized every day.
28 posted on 03/03/2011 10:18:24 PM PST by Husker24
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To: smokingfrog

Odds are it was inert but the story doesn’t address it one way or the other.

I’ve got some inert ones around the house just for conversation pieces. You can pick them up at Army-Navy surplus stores, gun shows, etc.


29 posted on 03/03/2011 10:41:27 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Our country's founders cherished liberty, not democracy." -- Ron Paul)
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To: calex59

Why didn’t they just pull the pin and throw it while at the range, why waste other explosives on it?

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Probably because they don’t want to be the stars in the next “EOD Gone Bad” training film.

Seriously, why take a chance? It’s easy to sit here and laugh but the funeral and looking at the man’s children and wife are not funny. I have attended one. It’s not nice to clean up either.

Treat everything the same and you probably go home at the end of a shift. Get careless and you may not. Most grenades are very stable but the old striker fired ones relied on springs that routinely fail (see springs on an all original WWII era Thompson for comparison) and the timed fuze was sometimes a risky proposition even in WWII. Some of them have also been “remanufactured” by people who don’t know what they are doing.

They stopped using live grenades in training for a short time prior to the U.S. entering WWII due to several training deaths where the soldiers pulled the pins and the grenade exploded within a second of being thrown. This led to the creation of the blue capped training grenades.

It’s easy to poke fun when you watch the process but one moment of carelessness can cause lots of hurt to many people. If you don’t care about the cop at least consider what it costs the taxpayers when their bomb tech gets blown up or a bystander gets killed or wounded because they did not set a safe perimeter.

Why take a chance?


30 posted on 03/03/2011 11:22:35 PM PST by volunbeer
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To: calex59

If they tossed it at the range and it SEEMED to be a dud... would you want to walk over and try it a second time???


31 posted on 03/03/2011 11:25:34 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: volunbeer
They stopped using live grenades in training for a short time prior to the U.S. entering WWII due to several training deaths where the soldiers pulled the pins and the grenade exploded within a second of being thrown. This led to the creation of the blue capped training grenades.

What an idiot. They were using live Grenades for training in 1959 when I went though basic. Simple, you pull the pin, throw the damn thing as far as you can and lie down while it is still in the air. Grenade goes boom, has a very small kill radius and you stand up and walk away. Nice to be cautious but this is a grenade we are talking about not a 155 howitzer round that failed to explode.

32 posted on 03/03/2011 11:26:06 PM PST by calex59
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To: calex59

Perhaps they should just call you next time.........


33 posted on 03/04/2011 12:06:05 AM PST by volunbeer
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To: mlocher
Pull the pin, throw it as hard as you can and run like h3ll in the opposite direction.

Sometimes a bad idea... if the fuse has been changed out for use as a booby-trap... spoon flies... boom

34 posted on 03/04/2011 2:44:33 AM PST by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: occamrzr06
It’s only got a 10 meter kill radius.

That would be handy at an SEIU rally.

35 posted on 03/04/2011 2:56:21 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Our Constitution: the new Inconvenient Truth)
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To: All
Quite a few years ago (late eighties) a SEAL was tossing a grenade, the fuse had been changed out for instantaneous detonation, when he threw the the grenade and the spoon flew, it detonated about a two feet in front of him as he was going to the ground, causing very serious injuries but not killing him.

After that, all armed services had to go through their grenade stocks and confirm the proper fuses were installed.

36 posted on 03/04/2011 2:58:27 AM PST by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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Another great reason for not taking chances with these items, many years ago in an Army Claymore Training class, the instructor was going through how to identify a live claymore from the inert versions...

When a student held up his hand and pointed to the LIVE claymore sitting in front of him that had been mis-painted as an Inert Training Aid... again, all military units using the devices had to go through their stocks to properly identify the live/inert units.

37 posted on 03/04/2011 3:08:13 AM PST by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: smokingfrog
Couldn't they just unscrew the pin/spoon assemble and separate it from the frag/charge, problem solved?
38 posted on 03/04/2011 5:07:57 AM PST by 2001convSVT (That Beck guy was right about gold, too.)
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To: AvOrdVet
We had two (2) instances in Arkansas in the late eighties also. A mechanic's wife jobs on our local NG base, Camp Robinson. She brings home an old, rusty pineapple grenade that was off of a trail. Husband takes it to work to show the guys, and he holds it to his ear and shakes it to see if its got rainwater in it. It explodes instantly killing him, and injuring 3-4 mechanics at Russell? chevrolet in North Little Rock.

Another instance was a NG soldier that should have known better, took home a dud 40mm grenade. Apparently, while at work, the cat jumped up on the book case that had the "trophy" and knocked off the grenade, enough for a final arming spin, and BOOM, blew his 1,500 sq foot house all to hell. THE CAT SURVIVED!

39 posted on 03/04/2011 5:39:35 AM PST by DCBryan1 (FORGET the lawyers...first kill the "journalists". (Die Ritter der Kokosnuss))
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To: Frank_2001; Squantos

if ya toss a grenade in the woods and whack a spotted owl and nonebody is there to hear it, do spotted owls actually exist ??? 8^}


40 posted on 03/04/2011 5:47:59 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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