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Military Mom Pays High Price For Speaking With Son (TENNESSEE)(VIDEO)
News 5 Nashville ^ | 2/17/11 | Amanda Hara

Posted on 02/20/2011 9:45:32 AM PST by GailA

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To: GailA
Took me 30 some years to track down some of the people present in the Nam who knew my best friend ~ he died piloting a Marine helicopter on a medical rescue mission.

30 years ~ one of our fellow Freepers, Gooey Gomez, was on that flight too ~ he survived. I talked to rotarwash, aka (at that time Captain) Biancini.

No phone call but you just don't forget these things.

121 posted on 02/20/2011 1:08:29 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: GailA

As a guy who has supervised, I would not have rested until that company policy was changed.

And, once it changed I would have put out a notice that the policy had changed and that the mom involved had received a call from her son.

And, if I couldn’t have shamed HR into changing the policy I would have just taken my chances by allowing her an exception.


122 posted on 02/20/2011 1:10:22 PM PST by CurlyDave
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To: GailA

I hope to G-d someone HUMAN gives this woman a better job, and she can tell this boss to SHOVE it.


123 posted on 02/20/2011 1:12:11 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: nolongerademocrat

“Are these the people who do boat interiors?”

I believe they are, per their website.


124 posted on 02/20/2011 1:17:04 PM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: ApplegateRanch

Tenure of farmers
Full owner (farms) 1,384,565 1,428,136 1,522,033
Percent of total 62.5 67.1 69.0

Part owner (farms) 615,902 551,004 542,192
Percent of total 27.8 25.9 24.6

Tenant owner (farms) 215,409 149,842 140,567
Percent of total 9.7 7.0 6.4

Farm organization
Individuals/family, sole
proprietorship (farms) 1,922,590 1,909,598 1,906,335
Percent of total 86.8 89.7 86.5

Family-held corporations
(farms) 81,621 66,667 85,837
Percent of total 3.7 3.1 3.9

Partnerships (farms) 185,607 129,593 174,247
Percent of total 8.4 6.1 7.9

Non-family corporations (farms) 8,811 7,085 10,237
Percent of total 0.4 0.3 0.5

Others - cooperative, estate or
trust, institutional, etc. (farms) 17,247 16,039 28,136
Percent of total 0.8 0.8 1.3

Characteristics of principal farm operators
Average operator age (years) 54.0 55.3 57.1
Percent with farming as their
primary occupation 47.1 57.5 45.1
Men 2,006,092 1,891,163 1,898,583
Women 209,784 237,819 306,209

More information on farm characteristics
• Census of Agriculture
• Contact NASS Customer Service, 1-800-727-9540.


Farm Financial Indicators
Farm income and value added data
2008 2009

Number of farms 2,200,100 2,200,010

Thousands $
Final crop output 185,071,313 169,028,650
+ Final animal output 140,274,663 119,216,135
+ Services and forestry 41,978,375 42,686,077
= Final agricultural sector output 367,324,351 330,930,862

- Intermediate consumption outlays 202,971,384 189,992,112
+ Net government transactions 923,502 1,203,668
= Gross value added 165,276,469 142,142,418

- Capital consumption 28,689,535 30,116,259

= Net value added 136,586,934 112,026,158

- Factor payments 49,989,371 49,839,092
Employee compensation (total hired labor) 24,979,930 24,850,656
Net rent received by nonoperator landlords 9,589,811 9,834,140
Real estate and nonreal estate interest 15,419,630 15,154,296

= Net farm income 86,597,563 62,187,066

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Farm balance sheet

• Estimation of State-level Balance Sheets has been suspended. See the Farm Balance Sheet data page for more information.


Top Commodities, Exports, and Counties
Top 5 agriculture commodities, 2009
Value of receipts
thousand $ Percent of US
total value
1. Cattle and calves 43,776,568 15.4
2. Corn 42,035,337 14.8
3. Soybeans 30,056,466 10.6
4. Dairy products 24,342,440 8.6
5. Broilers 21,812,789 7.7

All commodities 283,406,168

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• Leading commodities by cash receipts in Excel.
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• Contact Ted Covey, 202-694-5344.

Top 5 agriculture exports, estimates, FY 2009
Value
million $
1. Soybeans and products 17,708.8
2. Other 12,432.5
3. Feed grains and products 11,978.7
4. Live animals and meat 8,906.6
5. Wheat and products 8,598.2

Overall rank 96,632.0

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• State Export Data
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Top 5 counties in agricultural sales 2007
Percent of US total receipts Thousands $
1. Fresno County, CA 1.3 3,730,546
2. Tulare County, CA 1.1 3,335,014
3. Kern County, CA 1.1 3,204,147
4. Merced County, CA 0.8 2,330,408
5. Monterey County,CA 0.7 2,178,470

US total 297,220,491

More information on agricultural sales
• Census of Agriculture
• Contact NASS Customer Service, 1-800-727-9540.

2008
Tenure of farmers
Full owner (farms) 1,522,033

Farm organization
Individuals/family, sole
proprietorship (farms) 1,906,335

Pretty stark contrast - no a good one


125 posted on 02/20/2011 1:21:06 PM PST by maine-iac7 ('WE STAND TOGETHER OR WE FALL APART' mt)
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To: loungitude

But the company folks DID change their minds about this woman’s acceptance of the calls, so they shouldn’t continue to be punished by consumers for their original stupid decision.


126 posted on 02/20/2011 1:26:29 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: ASOC

“Son should be aware of moms hours, Mom should follow safety rules.”

From the report as I heard it, his schedule is not normal, he doesn’t have typical soldier’s phone access, must use a special satellite phone, and never knows ahead of time when he’ll be able to call — and it’s only about once a month.

Imagine that he’s given the spur-of-the-moment go-aead to call his mother that month. He passes on that chance because it isn’t her lunch hour yet and waits until March. Sheesh. When it comes to our troops and thei families, a workplace could be flexible and logical. They should bend over backwards to offer whatever support they can.


127 posted on 02/20/2011 1:29:25 PM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: muawiyah

A number of my female coworkers/employees are the wives of soldiers stationed at Fort Knox, and we (the management staff) have relaxed the cell phone policy for them since the brigade (3rd of the 1st Infantry Division) deployed to Afghanistan last month.


128 posted on 02/20/2011 1:35:43 PM PST by Stonewall Jackson (Democrats: "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.")
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To: Stonewall Jackson

That’s what normal human beings do.


129 posted on 02/20/2011 1:41:03 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

My two youngest sisters are both married to soldiers. One deploys to Afghanistan in May and the other in June. I can’t imagine what my reaction would be if one of their employers refused to allow them to speak with either Drew or Alan.


130 posted on 02/20/2011 1:50:38 PM PST by Stonewall Jackson (Democrats: "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.")
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To: muawiyah

I got that. I’m just recounting experience I’ve had. And as far as it is up to ‘us’..that’s not how I would look at it if I were in her shoes. I would find a solution myself.


131 posted on 02/20/2011 1:57:40 PM PST by Outlaw Woman
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To: maine-iac7
Ha-yuk; yep; lived in big cities, small towns, "spots on the map", and rural acreages. Lived sleeping on other people's couches/Hide-A-Beds; studios with a mattress on the floor; Murphey bed once; mobiles, small houses, big houses, a HUGE house; had multiple houses in multiple states...and some of those I've done more than once.

I'm happy with the old, renovated ranch house that NOW, since I added it when we bought it, has indoor plunbing and electricity...and high speed DSL & satellite service.

Still keep the outhouse in 'working order'; put a new roof on it last summer, "just in case". I also keep the lamps filled, though I have not had to use them since we left "civilization", where we regularly had outages lasting from hours to days...yet now live in miles off pavement, and a harsher climate.

When we bought the ranch in 95, we also bought 2 8,500 watt portable generators "just in case". One is still in the shipping carton; the other has never had oil or gas put in it, as it sits gathering dust in the garage. The last time the 5,000 watt unit that we used regularly in Oregon was fired up was to keep the freezer cold on the 3 day trip hauling it here in the big horse trailer. I'd start it & let it run an hour at a motel while I had dinner; fire it up again the next morning while I had breakfast. It has sat in the barn ever since.I didn't need to be a Boy Scout, though I was, to intimately know "Be Prepared" is more than a suggestion; it's a way of life.

132 posted on 02/20/2011 2:06:49 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Made in America, by proud American citizens, in 1946.)
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To: ApplegateRanch
Still keep the outhouse in 'working order';

ahahaha

that 's the ONE thing I had a hard time with during the ice storm outage. So longed for an outhouse.

Been thinking about having one built - 'just in case'

I'm in a harsh climate too - and I think that it the better part of precaution.

When/if the SHTF, the city folk will flock SOUTH - like 90% of the back-to-the-landers did in the '70's. I lived in Calif. then and laughed my head off at them,They soon learned that water was scarce to naught out in the woods /n wilds, the animals too wormy to eat, no way allowed to cut down a tree, the land was carpeted with poison oak.

Whereas, in areas like ours, plenty of water/fish everywhere, plenty of wood for heat, plenty of good garden land, lotsa good meat in the woods, and the winters keep the sissies away.

Don't tell anyone.

133 posted on 02/20/2011 2:29:31 PM PST by maine-iac7 ('WE STAND TOGETHER OR WE FALL APART' mt)
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To: GRRRRR

Good job company! Uber bad PR to not to have done that.


134 posted on 02/20/2011 2:33:58 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: maine-iac7

It’s our secret; mums the word.

It is such a hard life, but someone has to do it. ;-)

...but just between us:

Turkeys fatten themselves on the ‘spilled’ feed, then go in the freezer.

Deer try to raid the garden & orchard...and one or two go in the freezer as a warning to the rest.

We “feed” them; then they feed us.

Added domestic rabbits to the mix this year; should get a enough bunnies to have one a week, if we kept all of them for ourselves. Also experimenting with small plot grains this year.

More firewood (pine & juniper) dies or comes down naturally than we can easliy keep up with, so no need to cut live trees. Down side is we don’t have any hardwoods; the plus is decent coal is available locally at a good price.

As to “heading south”, we’ve been through Pie Town on trips here & there, and that place is a great cautionary tale for anyone thinking of how wonderful ‘homesteading’ such places are.

http://www.awesomestories.com/assets/caudill-homesteaders

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history-archaeology/pietown.html

It’s all fun in the sun, until the well runs dry.


135 posted on 02/20/2011 3:07:21 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Made in America, by proud American citizens, in 1946.)
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To: Husker24

...”I say good riddance to a shit job.”

I would add good riddance to working with anti-American, anti-military vermin. If it were a CEO of the company, you can count on nothing being said or done. Elitists exist everywhere.


136 posted on 02/20/2011 3:20:16 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: ScottyinTN
Big assumption. No. These really are good family oriented people to work for. Many of them are vets and understand, including some of the management that is being flamed here and elsewhere. I know them personally and they are not bad people. Communication was lacking here. Crane can't make it up for it after the fact, and neither can the employee. And no, I am not management trying to defend myself.

I read the article and the company's PA Officer didn't back down but stated policy. Most people who work in a place in the same shop or area know if a person has a kid or spouse in the service. They also usually know if they have kids at home etc. I don't think that policy is as much a safety policy as most likely a production control policy. Easier to call it safety.

There are too many jobs out there in many fields as hazardous as that place would be and people use phones. In today's both parents must work world many school closing notices come via cell phone notification. Many people use their cell phones or loved ones for in case of emergency contact this number. Calling corporate switchboards in an emergency just doesn't cut it. By the time he was on hold maybe played punch 1,2,3,4,5,67,8, or 9 roulette and waited for that section etc his time would be up. My guess is they have very, very, limited time per use on the sat phone. He called a number most likely to reach her.

What about Bluetooths then? Hands free and no distraction. Or can workers even talk to each other there? I've done one of the most multi-tasking demanding things a person can do for extended periods of time and that was drive a rig. Most drivers these days use cells there too usually bluetooth. i sure wish they had the cell grid when I was driving.

Now under the more reasonable circumstance the phone call could have been like this. Phone answered and she told the line boss hey I need to take a break for a few minutes in this situation and left the line. In others where someone calls it's easy enough too. Cells have caller ID. If I had a cell at work and it said Ying Yang Hospital I'd answer it and so would you or a boss. If it was home or school calling I'd get very fast the heart of the matter and hang up till break or if needed clock out. The point is not everyone can have Crane's contact policy but most people can have a persons private cell number.

Before Cells there was pagers. They got a message to you usually or a number to call but that still meant finding a phone. So would someone get three days for recieving a text and looking at it too? Just curious?

BTW some of the most hard nosed about cutting slack for military families can be Vets themself like a few on this very thread.

137 posted on 02/20/2011 3:44:58 PM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: maine-iac7
First if all, it was a 15 month deployment
Fifteen months, a year ... same difference.
Actually, now that you mention it, I saw the documentary Restrepo six or eight months ago and as much crap as those guys saw, they did not get into actual firefights even two times a day, every day.
Getting sniper fire, mortars or any other kind of incoming is not a firefight.
P.S. You should try a little more respect in your replies. Just because your grandson saw combat, doesn't make you the expert. Believe it or not, there are some on FR who've been through it too.
138 posted on 02/20/2011 3:54:10 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: All; GailA
Boo-hoo! She knew the policy and made an informed choice NOT to follow it.

In deployments past, families had to wait for a telegram or letter home at most. She should learn to DEAL WITH IT.

Better, yet, she should QUIT and let her employer fill that job with a willing worker! I bet there are many unemployed who would be happy to take her place.

As for that petition to get special dispensation for calls from military family members, I say NO WAY. Shame on her for trying to capitalize on her son's deployment and weasel her way out of having done wrong by using him as a human shield.

139 posted on 02/20/2011 3:56:08 PM PST by newzjunkey
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To: GailA; All
Yeah...the company does have it’s rules, but those rules SHOULD be overlooked when it comes to our serving men and women.

BULL. As someone from a military family you're viewpoint infuriates me. We do not fight so the rules we agreed upon do not apply to a select few even if it's ourselves.

She should quit. Give that job up to someone willing to do the work and abide by the company rules. I know several needing jobs in TN, including a decorated veteran with more than 20 yrs service!

140 posted on 02/20/2011 4:04:38 PM PST by newzjunkey
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