Skip to comments.Hawaii official now swears: No Obama birth certificate
Posted on 01/24/2011 11:40:39 PM PST by jdoug666
Former Hawaii elections clerk Tim Adams has now signed an affidavit swearing he was told by his supervisors in Hawaii that no long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Barack Obama Jr....
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Better believe it. They surely don’t want him talking up now that this other story of Neil Abercrombie’s buddy has hit every major radio market.
Obama story about Hawaii past and lost birth certificate
Time to scour the Kenyan birth records.
Reptilians have hatch stamps not birth certificates.
The thought plickens.
Not sure how he can swear to the non-existence of a document.
He didn’t he swore that he was told by his supervisors that none existed.
Should someone ping the zotted missing-document apologists? ;)
So then it comes down to one person’s word against another person’s word.
And that is not going to fly in any courtroom in the nation.
I hope Rush shouts these revelations from the roof tops. The significance of this finding points most strongly to a birth certificate in Kenya.
It doesn’t matter because the Republican a-holes have decided they can’t even mention the issue for fear of the mean old media.
Cowardly losers all of them. I’m sick to death of hearing about it since none of them will do a darn thing to investigate it.
You are the FR master of strawmen, trumandogs. No one said anything about any court room.
Doesn’t matter where he was born. The facts are that we have a Kenyan Marxist serving as President of the United States, while at the same time getting ready to make a State of the Union Address, where he will claim to be a dusky reincarnation of Ronald Reagan, while at the same time calling massive socialist spending packages “investments”. Marty Python skits weren’t that crazy.
If I could have one wish granted now it would be that my dad could come back to witness this s—t!!
“Time to scour the Kenyan birth records.”
Well, remember when BHO’s Kenyan grandmother (I believe) told someone in the press that she was there in the room the night he was born (in Kenya)?
Has anyone even seen or heard from her again after that little revelation?? Amazing how THAT story (and video/audio clip) immediately died, even among conservatives.
Yes, hope this young man who came forward stays safe and that he’s unimpeachable in his facts.
No, no, no; it’s not Racism that invalidates their witness — It’s Social Darwinism.
You see, being from Africa, they could not understand that the airplane they had boarded had taken them away from their native Africa to Hawaii to witness the miraculous birth of Obama.
and he has the nuclear codes and control "football" with him.
So, what you are saying is 0bama and the other Kenya-birth deniers are now the Colonialists looking down their noses at the long-oppressed African tribals!?!
I'm not 100 percent convinced that this information, if accurate, would enable one to conclude Obama is not a naturalized U.S. citizen.
But I will say this information, if accurate, is enough to make a reasonable assertion that there is no proof that Barack Obama is a naturalized U.S. citizen, as I believe the Constitution requires.
And that, by itself, is enough to warrant an official investigation.
If he is naturalized that in itself is proof that he isn’t a natural born citizen.
“reasonable assertion that there is no proof that Barack Obama is a naturalized U.S. citizen, as I believe the Constitution requires.”
A NATURALIZED citizen does not qualify for POTUS.
One has to be NATIVE BORN.
Naturalized is for foreigners who become citizens.
“If I could have one wish granted now it would be that my dad could come back to witness this st!!”
I’ve often had the same thought about my dad. Not so sure I’d want him seeing what has happened to our country.
“Not sure how he can swear to the non-existence of a document.”
Yes, that would be like trying to prove a negative.
Depends..... Are they clean, and articulate?
I can't determine if this means the person who is the current president doesn't have any birth certificate at all in Hawaii or if it means the person who is the current president doesn't have a birth certificate with the name Barack Obama Jr. on it in Hawaii.
I have to mention Hillbuzz here, who has gotten a lot of dicussion and link-ups on his thread about the different name theory.
Just a semantic question for curiosity's sake.
thanks — both correct, I should have said “natural born citizen”
a little too late for me to be up
Don't hold your breath Rush and other conservative talk show types have have shown no stomach where this issue is concerned. Won't go there ...
They all, including Beck, think birthers are stupid. Either that or they’re jobs are to make millions while fooling their listeners.
Adams told WND he supported Hillary Clinton during the 2008 presidential election campaign.
He described himself as a libertarian who wants less government spending, fewer laws that restrict personal freedoms, more adherences to the Constitution and an end to foreign wars. "I'm interested in individual liberty and upholding the Constitution," he said.
Mr. Adams, you should know Hillary Clinton would not deliver on a single one of your ideals.
Good point, you can’t prove a negative.
You can say however that it’s not where it’s supposed to be... :)
The Constitution says “natural born citizen” - not “native born citizen”. They might be the same thing, or they might not.
This is not news. Nobody ever thought he had a Hawaiian Birth certificate.
No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
Messiahs don’t have no steenkin’ birth certificates.
“FREE THE LONG FORM!”
ROFLMAO. A few might be able to help, but then it will just turn into a flame war and that would be bad.
But I am thinking there is as much of a chance of finding Zero’s birth cert, as there is finding the gold plates.
It does fly normally. You are swearing under oath, under the penalty of perjury (just as if you were in court) that your statement is true.
However, considering the topic, it may not get far and he may be prosecuted for perjury, but it will be tough to prove.
Agreed. Anyone else would have had to provide documentation, but Zero gets away with it? WTH?
>So, what you are saying is 0bama and the other Kenya-birth deniers are now the Colonialists looking down their noses at the long-oppressed African tribals!?!
;) — Exactly... and how is that ‘liberal’ or ‘progressive’ of them?*
*I DO like using people’s own words against them.
>>So then it comes down to one persons word against another persons word.
Even if that is the case, all that would be required to disprove the accusation would be production of the accused of the birth-certificate.
>>And that is not going to fly in any courtroom in the nation.
Not quite. The statement sworn to is that these officials, presumably his superiors, told him there was no birth certificate... not the actuality of the [non-]existence of the birth certificate itself.
>It does fly normally. You are swearing under oath, under the penalty of perjury (just as if you were in court) that your statement is true.
>However, considering the topic, it may not get far and he may be prosecuted for perjury, but it will be tough to prove.
About the only way I see to prove him a perjurer would be the production of the birth certificate. If the certificate exists, and proves Obama ineligible, then there is a serious problem [politically speaking] for those who would charge him with perjury: its production would be a smoking-gun of conspiracy and [quite probably] treason. If the birth cert is American, yet from some other State than Hawaii, then the political consequences are also great: for the President would be proven a liar, along with many public officials & the media, and it is possible that fraud [and conspiracy] charges could then be brought. The Hawaii law even allows for the courts to demand documents, such as birth certificates, for evidence; therefore the ‘privacy laws’ excuse would be null and void were this to come to trial.
IOW, as far as I can tell this is a no-win battle (unless the birth certificate is genuine and valid and all as-claimed) if they choose to peruse it in the courts.
Actually, they would have to prove that his superiors DID NOT tell him that there was no birth cert since that is what he attested to.
And I don’t think it will go far, just enough to make the news and discredit him.
I know the feeling. ;-)
His words or not; it is certainly true that 0bambi is now “The Man” and a Colonialist Oppressor. ;^)
Dead silence from Obama and his lackeys. Millions spent avoiding it's release.
In August, 2008, just two months before the election, the Democrat Party of Hawaiis (DPH) chairman, Brian Schatz, had already refused to include legally required, explicit language in its sworn Official Certification of Nomination (OCON) that Barack Obama was qualified to serve as President under the provisions of the U.S. Constitution.
Tim Adams, a 2008 senior elections clerk for the Honolulu district, has contended that he was told that there is no long-form birth certificate for Obama, contrary to what Hawaii officials have publicly stated.
And now we have Gov. Abercrombie's exhaustive search for his messiah's holy grail. He found NOTHING.
The Newspaper announcements were supposedly generated by the filing of a long form birth certificate by the HDOH[like the Nordyke twins]. Since Obama does not have a long form birth certificate, we must conclude the newspaper announcements are forgeries.
The COLBS Obama put on line are also FORGERIES.
Obama's Books are forgeries written by a domestic terrorist named Bill Ayers.
They say a grand jury can indict a ham sandwich but the SRM can put a Marxist, Muslim, America-hating illegal alien bent on destroy the United States in the White House.
So far, they're doing a pretty good job covering for him too.