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A message for Glock (Editorial suggesting glock should stop selling to civilians)
NY Post ^ | January 12, 2011

Posted on 01/12/2011 2:35:09 PM PST by lowbridge

Why Loughner -- who'd been rejected by the military for his past drug use and arrested on drug charges -- was free to buy a 30-round magazine is a mystery.

Almost as much a mystery, frankly, as why Glock even markets them: They have no discernible civilian efficacy -- and damned little military utility.

Yet sales of the magazines reportedly are way up around the country in the wake of the Tucson massacre.

Here's an opportunity for the NYPD -- and every big-city police department in the nation -- to help turn this around by sending Glock a simple message: Halt all sales of the magazines to civilians -- or we'll stop using your weapon for our own officers.

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“Why Loughner — who’d been rejected by the military for his past drug use and arrested on drug charges — was free to buy a 30-round magazine is a mystery.”

And this goes unnoticed. He was able to purchase this weapon because an idiot Sheriff was too lazy/ corrupt to report or prosecute him for his many run-ins with the law, including death threats .


51 posted on 01/12/2011 3:29:06 PM PST by gunner03
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To: lowbridge

Glock better not listen to these fools. They will be treated like SMith and Wesson after the same type of Clinton blackmail.


52 posted on 01/12/2011 3:31:14 PM PST by therut
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To: Tallguy
I wonder about the utility of a 30 round mag as an owner of a Glock 23 with a CCW permit. It’s bulky enough without the extra long mag. But I recognize that others might disagree and who am I to argue.

You could not conceal a Glock with a 30 round mag in it. BUT you could conceal a Glock just fine with its regular mag, and have the 30-round mag sitting vertical in your spare magazine holder on your other side. My attitude would be, if I'm going out anticipating the possibility of needing to swap mags, I want the new mag to be a BIG mag.

53 posted on 01/12/2011 3:32:31 PM PST by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: elpinta

Thanks


54 posted on 01/12/2011 3:35:00 PM PST by stuartcr (When politicians politicize issues, aren't they just doing their job?)
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To: humblegunner
What do you suppose should be the punishment for public illiteracy?

Hanginge.

55 posted on 01/12/2011 3:44:53 PM PST by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: I cannot think of a name

Another idiot with a stupid opinion he can’t back up with facts.


56 posted on 01/12/2011 3:45:22 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: rickomatic

Thirty round magazines are for beginners.... How about 100 round drums!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qwXO-KTVxk


57 posted on 01/12/2011 3:49:37 PM PST by sjmjax (Politicans are like bananas - they start out green, turn yellow, then rot.)
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To: lowbridge

I prefer my 1911A1 Springfield.


58 posted on 01/12/2011 3:50:35 PM PST by ReverendJames (Only A Lawyer, A Painter, A Politician And The Media Can Change Black To White)
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To: I cannot think of a name; glock rocks; Eaker; Lurker; MileHi; hiredhand

Well educate thyself FRiend.....32 round magazines originally manufactured for the Glock 18, standard capacity and the plus II magazine bases are cheap an plentiful and at reasonable cost in most conservative red states. Many of my co-workers carry a Glock 19, 17 or 34 with 1 of the spare 32 round sticks as off duty rigs. Comfy combat tupperware per se...

Just sayin......Stay Safe !!


59 posted on 01/12/2011 3:54:26 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Squantos

Extended mags for reload make great sense. If you spent one mag and ain’t done, style points for a flush contour no longer matter!

Watch yer knot!


60 posted on 01/12/2011 3:59:49 PM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: lowbridge
I do agree that Glock should stop SELLING the weapons. They should have a large scale giveaway like the Liberators of WW2.

Every good American should know how to use firearms safely.

61 posted on 01/12/2011 4:00:47 PM PST by caddie
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To: lowbridge

I plan to purchase a short frame 29 this weekend. Intend to use it for a carry gun.


62 posted on 01/12/2011 4:04:19 PM PST by alaskanfan
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To: pogo101
Is it any wonder there’s been a massive “run” on Glock pistols in recent days?

On FOX earlier....gun sales up since shooting, particularly in the southwest and particularly Glock 19s

63 posted on 01/12/2011 4:06:44 PM PST by digger48
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To: MileHi

Yep....Agree. I carry an ASP Baton and a 29 round variant of the 32rnd Glock 18 magazine in a combo IWB carrier when carrying my Glock 35 or Glock 31. As you stated....if primary carry mag didn’t get it done then the OMG stick mag is yer friend. Even when packing a 1911A1 I carry 2 spare Wilson Rogers 10 round spare magazines along with the primary 8 round Wilson Rogers mag in the weapon. Go big so ya can get to yer shotgun or rifle is my plan A.

Just what I do....


64 posted on 01/12/2011 4:08:49 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: LouAvul
Yeah and as an astute businessman, Mr. (Anton?) Glock will certainly shut off that part of his market.

It's Gaston Glock.

65 posted on 01/12/2011 4:12:56 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: I cannot think of a name

The Glock 19 comes with a 17 round magazine. So that 30 round extended mag was bought somewhere else. You can get them everywhere. But I don’t want to confuse our author with the facts. LOL!


66 posted on 01/12/2011 4:15:06 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB
Could be.

http://www.cdnninvestments.com/gl9mm33amnom.html

67 posted on 01/12/2011 4:19:20 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: digger48
On FOX earlier....gun sales up since shooting, particularly in the southwest and particularly Glock 19s

I scored a Glock 19 (3rd gen) last month. Glad I did.

68 posted on 01/12/2011 4:26:52 PM PST by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: Nachoman
"I suspect Gaston Glock’s reply will be “Eat me!”"

Or the equivalent in the German language which is probably something that's anatomically impossible.

Glock himself seems to be an amazing old guy. HERE I'll make a guess that military and police sales are much less than half of Glock's business. I don't think he's going to throw away his company because of a NY Post editorial.

69 posted on 01/12/2011 4:28:08 PM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: lowbridge

If they ban Glocks then we’ll all have to buy 1911s. Please don’t throw us into that brier patch!


70 posted on 01/12/2011 4:34:06 PM PST by Brucifer (Proud member of the Double Secret Reloading Underground.)
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To: Sooth2222; All
What I find interesting on this thread is the concerns with what this fruitcake paid for a pistol, mags, and ammo to commit murder.

Does anyone think he went into the store and asked the clerk, "Hey buddy, I want a cheap 9 mm pistol with hi-cap mags and a box of ammo to shoot some people next week."

71 posted on 01/12/2011 4:41:03 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: VeniVidiVici
Pocket carry:

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72 posted on 01/12/2011 4:46:01 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: I cannot think of a name
I doubt seriously the magazine was made by Glock! Even their normal capacity mags are expensive. If they even make a 30, the cost would probably be out of sight.

Nope. Made by Glock, and (as such things go) not all that expensive.

There's a place locally that has them, wants (IIRC) over $60 for one. Can be had from Internet vendors, in normal times, for considerably less.

73 posted on 01/12/2011 5:03:05 PM PST by Lee N. Field (Come, behold the works of the LORD, how he has brought desolations on the earth.)
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To: Squantos; glock rocks; Lurker; MileHi; hiredhand; Constitution Day; Tijeras_Slim
I just rely on my badassness instead of weapons!



74 posted on 01/12/2011 6:28:15 PM PST by Eaker (In the middle of difficulty lies opportunity. Albert Einstein)
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To: Eaker

I’m seldom speechless.


75 posted on 01/12/2011 6:57:20 PM PST by glock rocks (I am Dyslexis of Borg. Your ass will be laminated.)
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To: Eaker

Doood! Nice hat!


76 posted on 01/12/2011 6:58:34 PM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Eaker
Then there's hope for me, too?

(I just gotta get one of those hats!)

77 posted on 01/13/2011 6:20:33 AM PST by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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To: baiamonte
If guns kill people, then pencils make spelling errors.

Spoons made Rosie O'Donnell fat.
78 posted on 01/13/2011 7:25:48 AM PST by sasquatch
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To: GSP.FAN
Banned here in CA 10 mag is max allowed.

That's a relief. It's lost on all these clowns that had Uncle Fester been packing a 1911, Gabby Giffords would be very dead.

79 posted on 01/13/2011 11:17:55 AM PST by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: GSP.FAN
Banned here in CA 10 mag is max allowed.

That's a relief. It's lost on all these clowns that had Uncle Fester been packing a 1911, Gabby Giffords would be very dead.

80 posted on 01/13/2011 11:19:17 AM PST by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: lowbridge

Ping


81 posted on 01/13/2011 11:55:25 AM PST by Zffrtuyiy
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To: lowbridge
Here's an opportunity for the NYPD -- and every big-city police department in the nation -- to help turn this around by sending Glock a simple message: Halt all sales of the magazines to civilians -- or we'll stop using your weapon for our own officers.

December 11, 2002
Via Facsimile (213) 847-0676 and U.S. Mail

Chief William J. Bratton
Los Angeles Police Department
150 North Los Angeles Street
Re: LAPD 82A Rifle, Serial No. 1186
Point of Contact: Jim Moody
213 485 4061

Dear Chief Bratton,

I, a U.S. citizen, own Barrett Firearms Mfg. Inc., and for 20 years I have built .50 caliber rifles for my fellow citizens, for their Law Enforcement departments and for their nation's armed forces.

You may be aware of the latest negative misinformation campaign from a Washington based antigun group, the Violence Policy Center. The VPC has, for three or so years, been unsuccessful in Washington, D.C. trying to demonize and ban a new subclass of firearms, the .50 caliber and other "too powerful" rifles. This type of nibbling process has been historically successful in civilian disarmament of other nations governed by totalitarian and other regimes less tolerant of individual rights than the United States.

The VPC's most recent efforts directs this misinformation campaign at your state, attempting to get any California body to pass any law against .50 caliber firearms. In March 2002 the VPC caused the California State Assembly, Public Safety Committee to consider and reject the issue by a 5 to 0 with 1 abstaining vote.

Regrettably, the same material has been presented to your city council. I personally attended the council meeting in Los Angeles regarding attempts to bar ownership of the .50 caliber rifle in your city. I was allowed to briefly address the council. The tone of the discussion was mostly emotionally based, so the facts that I attempted to provide were ineffective to the extent they were heard at all. The council voted to have the city attorney draft an ordinance to ban the .50, and further, to instruct the city's representatives in Sacramento and in Washington D.C. to push for bans at their respective levels.

At that council meeting, I was very surprised to see an LAPD officer seated front and center with a Barrett 82A1 .50 cal rifle. It was the centerpiece of the discussion. As you know, there have been no crimes committed with these rifles, and most importantly, current California law does not allow the sale of the M82AI in the state because of its detachable magazine and features that make it an "assault weapon." This rifle was being deceptively used by your department. The officer portrayed it as a sample of a .50 cal rifle currently available for sale to the civilians of Los Angeles. One councilman even questioned how this rifle was available under current laws, but as I stated, facts were ineffective that day.

Your officer, speaking for the LAPD, endorsed the banning of this rifle and its ammunition. Then he used the rifle for photo ops with the Councilmen each of whom, in handling the firearm, may have been committing a felony. I was amazed.

Since 1968, with the closing of the U.S. Springfield Amory, all of the small arms produced for the various government agencies are from the private sector. Every handgun, rifle or shotgun that law enforcement needs comes from this firearms industry. Unless the City of Los Angeles has plans of setting up its own firearms manufacturing, it may need to guard the manufacturing sources it has now.

When I returned to my office from Los Angeles, I found an example of our need for mutual cooperation. Your department had sent one of your 82A1 rifles in to us for service. All of my knowledge in the use of my rifle in the field of law enforcement had been turned upside down by witnessing how your department used yours. Not to protect and serve, but for deception, photo opportunities, and to further an ill-conceived effort that may result in the use of LA taxpayer money to wage losing political battles in Washington against civil liberties regarding gun ownership.

Please excuse my slow response on the repair service of the rifle. I am battling to what service I am repairing the rifle for. I will not sell, nor service, my rifles to those seeking to infringe upon the Constitution and the crystal clear rights it affords individuals to own firearms.

I implore you to investigate the facts of the .50, to consider the liberties of the law-abiding people and our mutual coexistence, and to change your department's position on this issue.
Sincerely,
BARRETT FIREARMS MANUFACTURING, INC.
Ronnie Barrett, President


82 posted on 01/13/2011 12:41:17 PM PST by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: stuartcr
Were they made by Glock or an after-market? I’ve got a couple hi-capacity mags for My Ruger KP97, they weren’t made by Ruger.

Glock makes 32rd 9mm magazines, primarily for use with the Glock 18 (select-fire machine pistol).

I know Scherer made similar mags for .40 and 10mm, but they don't work well.

83 posted on 01/13/2011 12:45:45 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (I'm sick of damn idiots)
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To: lowbridge
Why Loughner -- who'd been rejected by the military for his past drug use and arrested on drug charges -- was free to buy a 30-round magazine is a mystery.

It's not a mystery at all. It's already been documented.

The fine left-wing citizens of Tucson allowed a program to be setup where charges would be dropped against drug users, and no criminal record would result, if they signed up for the city's rehab program.

84 posted on 01/13/2011 12:52:03 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Trailerpark Badass

Thanks


85 posted on 01/13/2011 1:20:58 PM PST by stuartcr (When politicians politicize issues, aren't they just doing their job?)
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To: gundog

Your point is noted..
If it had been a Republican event at Safeway the dude would have been shot dead after he pulled his gun out....


86 posted on 01/13/2011 6:33:58 PM PST by GSP.FAN (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: I cannot think of a name

new glock 23 mags usually cost about 25-30 retail most places.


87 posted on 01/14/2011 2:31:44 PM PST by Armedanddangerous (Montani Semper Liberi)
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