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The End Of The Internet As We Know It: The FCC Power-Grab On Our Liberty Will Now Have No End
Somewhat Reasonable blog (The Heartland Institute) ^ | December 21, 2010 | Jim Lakely

Posted on 12/21/2010 8:15:26 PM PST by seamus

The Federal Communications Commission today moved in to regulate the Internet, which is the wonder of the modern age exactly because the FCC hasn’t been able to get its hands around its throat. Don’t just take it from me and others at The Heartland Institute. Some guy named Steve Wozniak wrote in The Atlantic that the little tech company he helped found would have never fundamentally transformed our economy and our lives if the rules the FCC just imposed were in place years ago.

I believe this is the end of the Internet as we know it. If the barrage of lawsuits soon to come don’t dislodge the FCC from a place it has no jurisdiction to regulate, it will burrow itself in for good. And we’ll all be the poorer for it — never knowing what cool stuff we’ll miss because of a world where companies play “Mother May I?” with bureaucrats before moving forward with their next innovation.

At a time when we need much less regulation across the board to encourage economic growth, the FCC has just inserted its muck-making machine smack dab in the middle of the only industry keeping America’s economy afloat.

Here are a couple of Heartland videos that help explain the net neutrality debate: (“Net Neutrality: Part 1” and “Why Obama is Wrong about Net Neutrality.”) Here is a Heartland policy study that exposes the Marxist history of the net neutrality movement. And here is my contribution to the statement Heartland released to the press today in reaction to this inevitable, but still depressing, news:

READ MORE HERE (and it gets worse).

(Excerpt) Read more at somewhatreasonable.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bhofcc; fcc; internet; juliusgenachowski; marxism; netneutrality

1 posted on 12/21/2010 8:15:27 PM PST by seamus
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To: seamus

2 posted on 12/21/2010 8:45:17 PM PST by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: seamus

What’s with the axiom that whatever we lose can never be regained, and then some?


3 posted on 12/21/2010 8:54:57 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: BenLurkin

Is there any news story that you don’t post that ridiculous picture to?

Good grief already!


4 posted on 12/21/2010 9:17:02 PM PST by Artcore
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To: seamus

Did I miss something in grade school study of the Constitution about the federal government owning, auctioning and regulating the ether?

Did I miss an electron amendment?

Ah, it must be information flowing across state lines that invokes the commerce clause...


5 posted on 12/21/2010 9:19:50 PM PST by One Name
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To: seamus

The new House of Representatives, like every House before it, controls the purse strings.

If the new GOP members have a spine, all they have to do is cease all funding for the FCC until they rescind this stupid ruling, which the courts already ruled against in the recent past.

Play hardball, GOP.


6 posted on 12/21/2010 9:46:39 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (A Jimmy Carter got us a Ronald Reagan......A Barack Obama will get us a Sarah Palin)
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To: seamus

FCC chairman is a red. He has hired Free Press McChesney’s aid to be his FCC spokewoman, and has Mark Lloyd, another red, as the Internet Advisor/Czar.

This has to be investigated and exposed ASAP.


7 posted on 12/21/2010 10:00:30 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: seamus

I just heard on the Mark Levin show (recorded earlier) that Jim Demint said he is going to fight this. That man is going to need alot of support even if its only through email.


8 posted on 12/21/2010 10:22:41 PM PST by Outlaw Woman (It has come to the point that we have to decide what to do with the bodies.)
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To: Outlaw Woman
when is the leftist blitzkrieg on liberty going to let up ?

dont they ever run out of legislation bombs ?

9 posted on 12/21/2010 10:55:43 PM PST by KTM rider ( patriot turned rebel)
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To: seamus

Next Congresses, For ‘11, For ‘12, And For Way Beyond: Overturn and never financially support ALL of this socialistic crap, always!


10 posted on 12/21/2010 10:59:32 PM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (If leftist legislation that's already in place really can't be ended by non-leftists, then what?)
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To: seamus

Next Congresses, For ‘11, For ‘12, And For Way Beyond: Overturn and never financially support ALL of this socialistic crap, always!


11 posted on 12/21/2010 11:04:11 PM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (If leftist legislation that's already in place really can't be ended by non-leftists, then what?)
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

Sorry for repost.


12 posted on 12/21/2010 11:05:20 PM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (If leftist legislation that's already in place really can't be ended by non-leftists, then what?)
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To: KTM rider

This is the marxists wetdream...(please forgive my use of that but it seems most appropriate).

We’ve been weakened by many many years of Rinos and the ‘reaching across the aisle’.

Tonite there are problems with FR....There is no such thing as conincidences. Not when it comes to this administration.


13 posted on 12/21/2010 11:06:22 PM PST by Outlaw Woman (It has come to the point that we have to decide what to do with the bodies.)
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To: Outlaw Woman
Very bad weather in California. Let's see if the problems persist beyond Thursday when the weather is due to clear up. The bad stuff is due to hit San Diego around 3 AM and be very intense for about 9 hours.
14 posted on 12/21/2010 11:26:23 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

I hope you are staying dry if you are there. Yes I’ve heard it’s very bad...I carry my tinfoil hat with me unfortunately. Cannot help but question but will try to be rational. (trying hard)


15 posted on 12/22/2010 12:00:29 AM PST by Outlaw Woman (It has come to the point that we have to decide what to do with the bodies.)
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To: Gene Eric

Liberals-Socialists are rightfully concerned that information exchanged on the internet may be leaning more towards the conservative side what stands to reason as I have my grave doubts that any one on the dole for government handouts is espousing conservative principles, neither are they too computer savvy or have the guts to come right out and say “Give me more of YOUR hard earned money” For this they need liberal politicians to do their bidding who in the process line their pockets.


16 posted on 12/22/2010 1:37:21 AM PST by saintgermaine
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

We might as well follow right behind Venezuela
Venezuela tightens Internet regulation
Reuters ^ | December 21, 2010

Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2010 8:54:51 PM by La Lydia

CARACAS - Venezuela’s parliament approved tighter regulation of the Internet on Monday in the latest of a package of laws to entrench President Hugo Chavez’s socialist “revolution” before a new Assembly is sworn-in next month. Members of his ruling Socialist Party say the move brings South America’s top oil producer into line with international norms for policing the Web. But opposition politicians say it is aimed at stifling dissent.

It followed a more controversial vote by the National Assembly last week that will allow Chavez to bypass the next parliament and rule by decree for 18 months...the decision was denounced by furious opposition parties due to take 40 percent of seats in the Assembly beginning on January 5...

The Internet bill approved on Monday prohibits online content attacking “good customs,” disrespecting public officials or inciting violence against the president.

Many of Venezuela’s lively news forums operate without a moderator or editor filtering out extremist or vulgar content. But the bill has concerned some free speech activists, who have drawn comparisons with how China and Cuba police the Web.

Under the new regulations, all Internet traffic is supposed to pass through a single, government-controlled access point, stoking opposition fears about surveillance and censorship...


17 posted on 12/22/2010 1:46:44 AM PST by saintgermaine
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To: seamus

bump


18 posted on 12/22/2010 2:07:21 AM PST by lowbridge (Rep. Dingell: "Its taken a long time.....to control the people.")
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To: saintgermaine

Well of course. Control freaks hate free speech.

My point, however, was that which we lose is often deemed to be lost forever. I don’t get that thinking.


19 posted on 12/22/2010 2:41:46 AM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

We’ll have to force them to.

I say we put a delegation of 300 patriots together, contact Rand Paul and Michele Bachmann, get our GOP ‘representatives’ together, and have a tete-a-tete with them. Make it crystal clear that we’re watching, and that we expect the FCC to not get a plugged nickel. And that we mean serious business. If they don’t, 2012 will be an electoral nightmare for the current crop of Republicans, like it is going to be for the democrats.


20 posted on 12/22/2010 3:12:20 AM PST by apronius (Good start, but not complete.)
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To: seamus

I would remind freepers that the Shah of Iran was brought down by audiocasette tapes...

Unintended Consequences rules. If the libtards think they can end the New American Revolution by silencing us, they will be sadly rewarded. Forced to find new ways to communicate, messages will find an entirely NEW magnitude (and attitude). If you think freepers are rowdy now, just wait.


21 posted on 12/22/2010 3:40:35 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: seamus
When The Messiah was being 24/7 promoted, and the Soros funding was hidden via Internet "small donor contributions", the Internet was the "wave of the future" for the Left.

Now, the Internet is a THREAT, as facts and dissent are available freely, and they have to stop the Conservative push to overthrow the Communist Regime. The results of the 2010 elections show them that the word is out, and they are being exposed, and they now will shut down that access to the facts.

They likewise are attacking (via the FCC) the Conservative voices on talk radio, which will be the next information source to be muzzled.

Can REAL Americans be that dumb to not see where we're headed?

22 posted on 12/22/2010 4:38:45 AM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Outlaw Woman

DeMint needs to start by explaining how he possibly could have voted for the “Food Safety” bill.

What a letdown.


23 posted on 12/22/2010 4:46:38 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Outlaw Woman

You are not being irrational.

If the FCC can defy a court decision and an act of Congress, why couldn’t they start messing with conservative sites?

They are being tyrannical; you are not being irrational.


24 posted on 12/22/2010 4:50:31 AM PST by Scanian
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To: seamus
When The Messiah was being 24/7 promoted, and the Soros funding was hidden via Internet "small donor contributions", the Internet was the "wave of the future" for the Left.

Now, the Internet is a THREAT, as facts and dissent are available freely, and they have to stop the Conservative push to overthrow the Communist Regime. The results of the 2010 elections show them that the word is out, and they are being exposed, and they now will shut down that access to the facts.

They likewise are attacking (via the FCC) the Conservative voices on talk radio, which will be the next information source to be muzzled.

Can REAL Americans be that dumb to not see where we're headed?

25 posted on 12/22/2010 5:00:35 AM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: seamus
Not to worry FRiends....that which is done by dem/lib/prog/pop FCC chairmen can be undone by right minded, conservative FCC chairman.

But to get a right minded, conservative FCC chairman, we have to get rid of the little tin god...and his entire administration.

We'll have that chance soon enough. And if the 2010 midterms were "the most important elections of our lifetime", then the presidential election upcoming in 2012 is positively earth shattering!

This time around, we need to find eloquent, conservative, hard-line, staunch, right minded candidates to run for ALL OFFICES UP FOR ELECTION....including the Presidency.

We desperately need to gain all the seats possible. This means running the candidate who can win and then voting for them. Let's get the seats (and the presidential office) first....we can "fine tune" later.

As an example...Scott Brown (R?) MA....he needs to be "fine tuned" out of office, but he MUST be replaced by another R....not a D!

So...let's get more "Rs" in there...replace the little tin god with a natural born US citizen who is also a staunch conservative....and the FCC will be taken care of in due time.

26 posted on 12/22/2010 5:26:32 AM PST by Logic n' Reason (You can roll a turd in powered sugar; that don't make it a jelly donut)
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To: saintgermaine

In this article, Obama is working with an international group for cybersecurity.

http://www.acus.org/program/international-security

INTERNET TAKEOVER – WHO IS PRESIDENT OBAMA WORKING WITH?

http://noisyroom.net/blog/2010/12/21/internet-takeover-%E2%80%93-who-is-president-obama-working-with/

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2646108/posts#21

Marsha Blackburn on Freedom Watch 12/03/10: FCC’s Net Neutrality

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UogrD13z1do


27 posted on 12/22/2010 5:50:26 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: seamus

Simple question. By what authority can the FCC just grab this power? Someone more learned than me please explain. It appears to me that they just declared that they have the authority to do this and those affected are expected to just go along. What if they don’t?

Can I simply claim for myself a new power? How about this? I declare the Net Neutrality power grab by the FCC null and void. How about that?


28 posted on 12/22/2010 6:03:12 AM PST by Datahead
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To: seamus

This may answer a few questions and fill in some background on the groups who brought this action and their methods.

The Net Neutrality Coup
The campaign to regulate the Internet was funded by a who’s who of left-liberal foundations.
John Fund

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703886904576031512110086694.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop=


29 posted on 12/22/2010 6:21:05 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine .. now it is your turn..)
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To: Datahead
I declare the Net Neutrality power grab by the FCC null and void. How about that?

I second your decree. So shall it be.

30 posted on 12/22/2010 6:21:45 AM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality. Save America From Bankruptcy.)
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To: Logic n' Reason

“Not to worry FRiends....that which is done by dem/lib/prog/pop FCC chairmen can be undone by right minded, conservative FCC chairman.”

After their sorry performance on the START treaty it is clear the RINOs are easily bought off. When Google & ATT start lobbying in favor of this with big money the RINOs will scoop it up and sell us out. While it may be our freedom to them it is just another issue to be traded away for some cash or power.


31 posted on 12/22/2010 7:23:33 AM PST by lodi90
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To: Scanian

It is simple. Most GOP politicians don’t like the free speech on the Internet. Most are just the same as the DNC.

Nothing will be done about this, other than a few selected complaints on the regulated airwaves. No one in power is very comfortable with the serfs being able to talk back.


32 posted on 12/22/2010 8:05:17 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: seamus

bookmark


33 posted on 12/22/2010 8:29:06 AM PST by Free Vulcan (The cult of Islam must be eradicated by any means necessary.)
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To: Scanian
I had not heard that Scanian. What are these people thinking?? Anything written/proposed/introduced by this marxist clan should immediately be fought and NOT voted on at all.

That is very disheartening.

34 posted on 12/22/2010 12:07:29 PM PST by Outlaw Woman (It has come to the point that we have to decide what to do with the bodies.)
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To: Outlaw Woman

The score I heard was 99-0.

It looks like McConnell sold us out on Food, DADT, START, and pork in the tax bill in order to kill the omnibus bill.

I hope I got bad info on that vote...but it wouldn’t make much difference at this point, would it?
AJ


35 posted on 12/22/2010 1:17:09 PM PST by Scanian
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To: Artcore
Here you go...

Feel better? Would you like a tissue?

36 posted on 12/22/2010 1:42:38 PM PST by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: seamus
The FCC Power-Grab On Our Liberty Will Now Have No End

The FCC power grab will end on January 20, 2013, when we put a real American in our White House so the country can once again have a president - a leader who will preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States of America, which she reveres as much as other patriotic Americans do.

37 posted on 12/22/2010 7:06:55 PM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Outlaw Woman

O.W., I gave you some bad info on the “Food Safety” vote.

It was approved 78-22. Both DeMint and Coburn voted against it.

Sorry. I should know better than to pass along MSM information reported in haste.

That doesn’t make S510 suck any less but at least there are fewer sellouts in the Senate than what I thought there were.

Once again, my apologies.


38 posted on 12/23/2010 4:09:56 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Outlaw Woman

More info from TexasFossil:

“That[99-0] was what was reported in “The Hill” but you could not find a reference anywhere on the senate.gov or Thomas websites. Nothing anywhere.

The explanation I heard was that they realized it had to originate in the House since it was a revenue bill, and resubmitted it. It took a couple of days before I could find the data.

This is being sold by the scare of preventing Al-Qaeda from using food contamination to attack the U.S. That is a stupid approach to solving that, but the real reason is the Global Ag Corps want this to eliminate the competition.

If you are hungry in 2011, don’t blame a farmer, blame the lying POLs. Same place to blame if your food costs sky-rocket this year. It could happen. The speculators are doing all they can to creat that problem now.

The Dems passed HR2749/S.510 about 1-1/2 years ago. They intended to use it for the ultimate population control tool. Food as a subjection tool. Commie Bas___ds!”


39 posted on 12/23/2010 4:17:31 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Scanian

No problem. I found a thread after our discussion that indicated the vote. I thought I pinged you but last nite, when I was going through my comments, couldn’t find any evidence of that ping or article.

No question about it though, this bill is not intended for anything except control.


40 posted on 12/23/2010 8:40:11 AM PST by Outlaw Woman
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
I like your remedy, july4thfreedomfoundation. There is really no need for the FCC to exist anymore. They should get out of the way and let the "public airwaves" actually serve the public by giving us what we want (broadband) over the air.

We'd have had a generation above what is "wired" broadband over the air five years ago (for practically nothing) if the government would get out of the way.

41 posted on 12/23/2010 9:37:51 PM PST by seamus
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
This should be investigated. And the new GOP chairmen are making noises about doing so. If you want a good primer on this, read the Heartland Institute policy study titled: "Neutralism: The Strange Philosophy Behind the Movement for Net Neutrality."

Full disclosure: I'm the author.

42 posted on 12/23/2010 9:41:32 PM PST by seamus
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To: Outlaw Woman

I’m only commenting now on my post, Outlaw Woman, because I could not get back to it immediately after putting it on FR. Strange ... but I’m glad FreeRepublic is back to its usual smooth-operating self.


43 posted on 12/23/2010 9:43:32 PM PST by seamus
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To: seamus

No problem. Heck since that post we’ve experienced DADT, Regulation of carbon emissions by the marxist, START, etc.

It’s been a mind blowing spectacle watching the traitors in action.

Anyway, yes FR was acting hinky that nite for sure. Someone told me it was probably the weather in CA.


44 posted on 12/23/2010 9:48:11 PM PST by Outlaw Woman
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To: wastoute
If the libtards think they can end the New American Revolution by silencing us, they will be sadly rewarded. Forced to find new ways to communicate, messages will find an entirely NEW magnitude (and attitude). If you think freepers are rowdy now, just wait.

I hear ya, fellow "old-timer" at FR (circa 1990s). That is the long-term plan, let there be no doubt.

45 posted on 12/23/2010 9:48:45 PM PST by seamus
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To: Logic n' Reason
But to get a right minded, conservative FCC chairman, we have to get rid of the little tin god...and his entire administration.

Actually, Logic n' Reason, all we need is a new Republican House to pass a bill telling the FCC to stand down. And we need the Senate to pass it — which would probably happen.

Unfortunately, our president wouldn't sign that bill ... unless he had so much pressure on him that he'd have to. Regardless, lawsuits that will fly will probably circumvent all this flotsam and jetsam. And, if that doesn't work, (hopefully) a new president in 2012 will make this but a blip on the advancement on the digital economy and our freedom.

46 posted on 12/23/2010 9:56:04 PM PST by seamus
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To: Datahead
Simple question. By what authority can the FCC just grab this power? Someone more learned than me please explain. It appears to me that they just declared that they have the authority to do this and those affected are expected to just go along. What if they don’t?

As I explain (I think) in my post at Somewhat Reasonable, a federal court told the FCC they can't do this. But they did it anyway. Some 300 members of Congress, including 82 Democrats, told them not to do this (in a non-binding letter). But the Democratic appointees on the FCC pushed it through 3-2 anyway.

That's the nature of federal bureaucracies: "We'll do what we want in an instant, and it will take years of procedures on your end to stop us." This is why the FCC cannot be allowed to get its way here and now. It must be countered by the other branches of government. Immediately. And we must be the coal in the engine of correction.

47 posted on 12/23/2010 10:05:30 PM PST by seamus
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To: seamus

A Marxist flash mob has broken out in the Obama administration.


48 posted on 12/23/2010 10:10:50 PM PST by Enough is ENOUGH (Investigate George Soros and his tax exempt 501(c)(3) organizations which he uses to gain US control)
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