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House Passes Immigration Dream Act
LATimes ^ | December 8, 2010, 8:40 p.m | Lisa Mascaro and Kathleen Hennessey

Posted on 12/08/2010 9:03:08 PM PST by fight_truth_decay

Reporting from Washington — The House passed a landmark youth immigration bill known as the Dream Act on Wednesday night largely along party lines, but the measure faces a tough test in the Senate as Democrats struggle to pass priority legislation in the waning days of this Congress.

Eight Republicans joined in approving the bill, 216 to 198.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dreamact; illegalaliens; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration

1 posted on 12/08/2010 9:03:11 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: fight_truth_decay

instdems


2 posted on 12/08/2010 9:08:54 PM PST by FrankR (Don't let the bastards wear you down!)
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To: fight_truth_decay

8 Republicans??? Name names!

Dammit.


3 posted on 12/08/2010 9:09:20 PM PST by bigbob (.)
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To: fight_truth_decay
"Eight Republicans"

There's a list to post in perpetuity.

4 posted on 12/08/2010 9:09:56 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: fight_truth_decay
This is excruciating. Every day the loser RINOs and Rats come up with some way to dick us before Jan 1. I feel like my team is up by one and they are just running out the clock instead of fighting back.

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5 posted on 12/08/2010 9:11:40 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: bigbob

They are all retiring, except for two the Florida Cuban-Americans. And you will never beat them in a primary over this vote.


6 posted on 12/08/2010 9:14:08 PM PST by nbenyo
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To: Lazlo in PA

Don’t give up yet! Sen Snow has indicated she will not vote for this bill. Harry has cancled the vote in the senate. He does not have the votes he needs to pass it.


7 posted on 12/08/2010 9:14:27 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: All
House Roll Call: How they voted on Dream Act

Republicans:

Ehlers, Y
Cao, Y
Djou, Y.
Ros-Lehtinen, Y
Diaz-Balart, L., Y;
Diaz-Balart, M., Y;
Castle, Y.
Snyder, Y.

8 posted on 12/08/2010 9:14:55 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: bigbob
House Roll Call: How they voted on Dream Act
9 posted on 12/08/2010 9:16:04 PM PST by Leroy S. Mort
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To: bigbob; Paladin2

See #8 hold your horses was researching lol..


10 posted on 12/08/2010 9:16:21 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: fight_truth_decay

Congress passed it in stealth mode tonight.

Here is the bill:

http://www.rules.house.gov/SpecialRules_details.aspx?NewsID=4791

Here is the roll call vote:

http://clerk.house.gov/cgi-bin/vote.asp?year=2010&rollnumber=625


11 posted on 12/08/2010 9:16:29 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: fight_truth_decay

See the list at www.fireandreamitchell.com

Castle, Cao, Inglis, Dijou and others.


12 posted on 12/08/2010 9:16:35 PM PST by Judges Gone Wild (Who are these uncircumcised to oppose the armies of the Living God?)
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To: Judges Gone Wild

Future GOP House GOP meetings need to have the pitchfork and torch guards outside to show some reps the door.


13 posted on 12/08/2010 9:22:01 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: bigbob
8 Republicans??? Name names!

Put them in jail.

Condoning and supporting lawbreakers ILLEGAL aliens) is unacceptable behavior.

14 posted on 12/08/2010 9:22:06 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: fight_truth_decay

Castle, Djou, Cao, Ehlers, and Snyder (a Democrat) will not be in the 112th Congress. The three Cuban-American Reps from FL voted along tribal lines.


15 posted on 12/08/2010 9:22:54 PM PST by kabar
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To: Paladin2
"Future GOP House GOP meetings need to have the pitchfork and torch guards outside to show some reps the door."

The deportees can be given some sour lemons to suck.

16 posted on 12/08/2010 9:23:44 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Judges Gone Wild

All of them, Castle, Cao, Inglis, and Dijou won’t be in the 112th Congress. They will suffer no poltical consequences as a result.


17 posted on 12/08/2010 9:25:05 PM PST by kabar
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To: fight_truth_decay
"We may be LAME DUCKS, voted out because of no confidence by the American People, but dammit, with the one month left, we will vote and do whatever we damned well feel like doing, whether it be Amnesty or any other issue. And there isn't a damned thing you can do about it--you can't stop us. Suck it up, peons!" /sarc


18 posted on 12/08/2010 9:26:10 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (**George W Bush** bears as much responsibility as CARTER, CLINTON and OBAMA over N. Korean nukes)
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To: kabar

“The three Cuban-American Reps from FL voted along tribal lines.”
Personally, I’d give them a pass. They are generally reliable except on this issue. They would have hell to pay if they opposed the Dream Act.

What is very interesting is that 7 of 12 PA Dems voted AGAINST the Dream Act. 4 losers plus 3 who survived. The PA delegation voted 5 YES - 14 NO on the Dream Act.


19 posted on 12/08/2010 9:29:27 PM PST by nbenyo
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To: fight_truth_decay

Well, be a little quicker next time. Having to wait to post number 8 to get the answer, geez!


20 posted on 12/08/2010 9:32:33 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience.)
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To: fight_truth_decay
Let's see. To the Commie'RATs, Mexican Nationals require "priority legislation".

Sounds like that hopey/changey stuff again. This country has got to have the dumbest voters to ever come down the pike.

21 posted on 12/08/2010 9:40:43 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Merry Christmas to all of my FReeper FRiends!)
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To: nbenyo
A pass my ass. This is amnesty for 3 million illegals and a rolling one at that. Don't they have any loyalty to this country or is their primary concern to be reelected? So much for the vaunted outreach to minorities. Cao and Djou also voted for the bill even though they were defeated in the midterms. This is despicable.
22 posted on 12/08/2010 9:43:18 PM PST by kabar
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To: kabar

For all we know, they may have been told that the votes were firm against the bill in the Senate. So they could vote for political expediency.

In any event, I predict the Republicans will bring up the bill in a very narrow form next year (no more than 300,000 beneficiaries and NO sponsorships) and combine it with strong enforcement, employer verification measures and perhaps allowing states to assist with enforcing immigration law (ie make SB1070 clearly legal).
This would be difficult for Obama to veto.


23 posted on 12/08/2010 9:59:45 PM PST by nbenyo
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To: nbenyo
In any event, I predict the Republicans will bring up the bill in a very narrow form next year (no more than 300,000 beneficiaries and NO sponsorships) and combine it with strong enforcement, employer verification measures and perhaps allowing states to assist with enforcing immigration law (ie make SB1070 clearly legal). This would be difficult for Obama to veto.

As someone who works for a grassroots organization that deals with the immigration and lobbies on the Hill, you couldn't be more wrong. There will be no amnesty in the 112th Congress. Lamar Smith and Steve King will see to that. The incoming Rep class is strong on immigration as are the six Rep senators.

Where did you come up with the figure of 300,000? And do you understand what chain migration is? Or what this will cost us?

TEN THINGS YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THE DREAM ACT

24 posted on 12/08/2010 10:12:49 PM PST by kabar
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To: Judges Gone Wild

thanks but see above..


25 posted on 12/08/2010 10:20:11 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: gunsequalfreedom

laughs the posts were fast and I was in the roll call deciphering and finding and typing the 8 names.. with html codes then double checking on a couple of them as similar. Thus, 8 was fast! before any of the other answers that fell below. (stalks off..ingrate!) ;)


26 posted on 12/08/2010 10:24:33 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: kabar

You can re-write the Dream Act so that the applicants will NEVER be able to sponsor another person. The latest version moved in this direction but not nearly strongly enough.

So if Smith and King want to strengthen immigration enforcement, how exactly are they going to accomplish that without Obama signing their legislation? They need to offer something.

Or we can wait until 2013 when we MIGHT have a new president. And by that time there will be millions more illegals to deal with.


27 posted on 12/08/2010 10:28:45 PM PST by nbenyo
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To: nbenyo
Democrats promised Hispanic voters this amnesty, who voted Democratic in the Nov. 2 election saving Reid and other Western Democratic senators who only won by a small margin.

It's a show of "thanks" for your vote.

It's been going on since 2001 when first introduced.

"The law says that if you're born here, you are a U.S. citizen. But if you come here illegally, you are not a citizen

28 posted on 12/08/2010 10:33:22 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: bigbob

ALL 9 so-called “republikans” lost in either the primary or general election. Bastards had nothing to lose.


29 posted on 12/08/2010 10:46:19 PM PST by max americana
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To: bigbob

DREAM Act passes House, 216-198

voted no with the GOP versus just eight Republicans who crossed the aisle to vote yes. The defectors:

Joe Cao (defeated in general election)
Mike Castle (defeated in primary)
Lincoln Diaz-Balart (retiring)
Mario Diaz-Balart
Charles Djou (defeated in general election)
Vern Ehlers (retiring)
Bob Inglis (defeated in primary)
Ileana Ros-Lehtinen

If you’re looking to punish any of them with a primary, the pickings are slim.

And the eleven Republican representatives who did not even bother to vote.
# Brian Bilbray, California
# Roy Blunt, Missouri
# Steve Buyer, Indiana
# Mary Fallin, Oklahoma
# Phil Gingrey, Georgia
# Kay Granger, Texas
# Parker Griffith, Alabama
# Kenny Marchant, Texas
# Cathy McMorris Rodgers, Washington State
# George Radanovich, California
# Marlin Stutzman, Indiana


30 posted on 12/09/2010 12:00:16 AM PST by Libertynotfree (Dream act, Amnesty)
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To: Libertynotfree

Disgusted! Our congressman “RINO” did not vote. Poor loser lost his seat in the primary and has not represented us, his constituents since.


31 posted on 12/09/2010 12:17:05 AM PST by 4Godsoloved..Hegave (Trusting God is a full time job, He is on duty 24/7 .)
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To: fight_truth_decay
Yet another reason to do away with lame duck sessions.

In most parliamentary countries the members who lost leave immediately. For obvious reasons: they've been fired.

You quit voluntarily, you leave when it's agreed on. You get fired, you leave that day.

32 posted on 12/09/2010 4:07:33 AM PST by Regulator (Watch Out! Americans are on the March! America Forever, Mexico Never!)
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To: nbenyo
You can re-write the Dream Act so that the applicants will NEVER be able to sponsor another person. The latest version moved in this direction but not nearly strongly enough.

And if pigs had wings they could fly. The courts would never permit it. Once these people become green card holders and citizens, you can't make them a separate less than equal citizen or green card holder, both of whom can sponsor relatives, spouses, children, etc. to become legal immigrants to this country.

So if Smith and King want to strengthen immigration enforcement, how exactly are they going to accomplish that without Obama signing their legislation? They need to offer something.

Just enforcing the existing laws and legislation on the books would be sufficient. In large part, that was what AZ 1070 was all about, i.e., enforcing our existing laws. We still have unsecured borders despite the Secure Fence Act. The US-VISIT act has never been fully implemented. Take a look at the "Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986"

Or we can wait until 2013 when we MIGHT have a new president. And by that time there will be millions more illegals to deal with.

The status quo is not an option. The number of illegals will continue to increase and when you offer amnesties like the Dream Act, you just incentivize more illegals to come here. And we need to reduce the number of LEGAL immigrants who enter this nation annually, i.e., 1.2 million. 53% of immigrant headed households use at least one major welfare program. And we are bringing in 125,000 legal foreign workers a month, which includes those entering on temporary work visas and green cards as LPRs.

33 posted on 12/09/2010 6:28:25 AM PST by kabar
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