Skip to comments.Wave goodbye to Internet freedom
Posted on 12/04/2010 1:37:27 PM PST by Graneros
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Whatever is at that address doesn’t even answer to a ping now.
Well pal you’re definitely barking up the wrong tree. I’ve long argued that Senator Joe McCarthy was 100% right. He has long been one of my heroes. I, like Senator McCarthy, abhor communists and their “useful idiots.”
Where you and I differ is in the US Constitution. I believe in the 1st Amendment where as you, like Communists and other Progressives obviously do not. If you dont like what others have to say then you dont believe they have the right to publish. I on the hand other do. Assange and Wikileaks have broken no laws.
I can tell you you if Senator McCarthy were alive today and gave a rat’s butt what you, or I for that matter, opined about, you and not I would be on his short list of those whose politics more closely mirror Soros and his minions. Personal attacks such as your post ARE tactics of George Soros and his puppets.
I could come down a lot harder on your absurd post but I doubt you are a Commie and we probably are in agreement on more topics than not so I’ll stop there.
You are correct. Earlier it was a good link. I checked before my previous post. And now suddenly it is gone. That should scare the hell out of all freedom loving people everywhere.
Wikileaks has mirror sites all over the world. It would take someone or something, say a government agency, with a lot of juice to scour the net and get them all. Big Sis has eyes and ears everywhere. Is it possible She is monitoring FR? Oh silly me of course that can’t be possible. Besides our Gov’t wouldn’t break the law and take down someones LEGAL internet site. Would they? I mean, after all, our Gov’t agencies still abide by the 1st amendment to the US Constitution. Don’t they?
Do not put words in my mouth Mao-Tse boy. You would have supported the Rosenbergs stealing secrets for the Soviets. What your buddy Assange has done as an anarchist in his actions as a Soros' puppet has caused irreparable harm to my country.Graneros wrote: "Well pal you're definitely barking up the wrong tree."
He is equally hated in his own Australia and in free countries throughout the world because of his heinous act.
The American traitor who gave Assange military accessed top secrets is looking at serving a life sentence for his dreadful act of conspiracy against the United State.
However, not a word leaked about your good friends in the FSP, Putin or the Chinese. Wonder why that is.
Bite your tongue, I'm not your pal nor will I be a "pal" to anyone who like you, has openly and fervently supported the crimes of a spy, an anarchist against my country.
You seem to be the expert on putting words in someone’s mouth. You said:
“You would have supported the Rosenbergs stealing secrets for the Soviets. What your buddy Assange has done...”
Fact of the matter that is slander on your part. I said nothing about the Rosenbergs. Nor have I ever claimed friendship with Assange. But for the benefit of any Freepers who are following this idiotic exchange I will say the Rosenbergs truly were spies and got what they deserved. And although I’m not crazy about Assange, he is not a spy and has not broken any laws. You need to be careful what you say.
Now, I never put any words in your mouth. I simply used your own words. And I’ll do it one last time. You said:
“However, not a word leaked about your good friends in the FSP, Putin or the Chinese. Wonder why that is.”
Although I assume the end of that rant, “Wonder why that is.”(?) is a rhetorical question I’ll answer it literally and tell you why that is. Because the ChiComs and Putin don’t believe in freedom of the press. I don’t know who or what the FSP is so I’ll not address that. Also if your brain was capable of reading and understanding anything I’ve written you’d know that Communists are no friends of mine. But it sure sounds to me like YOU are defending their tactics. So I wonder who is their friend here?
But enough of that. Continue on with your mindless blather. I’m done with you. I’ve already spent more time on you than your worth. I was once told only a fool argues with an idiot. And I’m no fool. But you on the other hand... I’m sure you can figure out the rest of that statement. But then again... probably not.
Attempting to put words in my mouth is classic dezinformatsia and thus has painted you in the corner with your buddy Assange and his puppet-master George Soros.Graneros wrote: "You need to be careful what you say."
Is that a threat?
It’s not libertarians pushing, it is everyone who fears being shut out by the providers. The problem here is that Congress allowed monopoly over the last mile. Phone companies, Cable companies pretty much control the pipeline to your home. This scares people like, say, Apple and Google and Amazon and media manufacturers like Disney and folks who make entertainment. Theoretically, your cable company (mine is Time Warner) could cut deals that favor some content over others and even prohibit some content. Not sure what the solution is. I favor property rights but these entities have monopolies.
The ISPs don't have legitimate "property rights" over something the government gave away to them. For example, I didn't have any say over Verizon running a FIOS line under my driveway to reach the rest of the houses on the street -- if it were a true "property rights" issue, I could tell them to get lost or make them pay whatever price I saw fit to dictate.
Yes, the people should have been allowed to debate where the D-Day Landings would take place.
Well that’s what I was driving at. They were granted a monopoly and other rights by Congress, so it is important that they not be allowed to abuse it by shaking down content owners or subscribers. Though the solutions so far have imho not been good ideas. I do not want FCC regulation. I do not want price gouging. I don’t have a solution but I have an idea of what’s fair and what isn’t fair that they were given rights and exemptions that gave them billions of dollars in cash flow every year, so they must compensate for that with a perpetual public service equal to the value of what they obtained.
For some idea of what that is worth - Time Warner paid for AOL based on a value of about $22,000 per subscriber. So every home these companies reach is worth some amount near that. The market set that price when they decided how much a subscriber was worth over the lifetime. So the cable companies and telcos need to be providing the public about $20k for every household they have reached. Of course they won’t earn $20,000 per household at once, but over the life of the subscriber, so similarly the value needs to be provided over time as well. And it is categorically against the spirit of their monopoly to then decide who can and cannot push information through to the end user, or what the end user can or cannot view, visit, download etc, or to charge content owners for the right to sell or give their content over the pipe.
The public service of the internet is self evident. It is by nature non discriminatory as anyone can make and distribute content at any time using it, and any other person can choose to look at whatever they wish. It’s not like the airwaves, on the internet everyone can have multiple “channels” if they desire from which to distribute that is the public good.
Emails can be erased en masse at the speed of light. Ditto with "petitions." Petitions just make the arrogant bastards yuck it up, and consists of a lot less to shred.
I plan to write my letter. Anyone else?
Just read and weep. Start with Beck's Broke.
Bush was responsible, all by himself, for creating dozens of new "administrative," unconstitutional law-making bureaucracies. They call them "rules," but are indistinguishable from laws.
This resulted in 100,000 new federal employees, with their "special status" salaries and benefits and royal retirements.
Fortunately, rolling spending back to pre Bush levels is an essential and significant part of massive necessary reductions in spending.
I have belatedly come to realize that a lot of the problems that need fixing today were created by Bush. I just never realized, because the RINOs were not about to tell us at the time, and the DemRats were having their way (Cloward-Piven) with the economy , so they were fat dumb and happy...
The reality is that we are literally unable, as a country, to pay the trillion$ in unfunded debt that resulted.
I reject your poor opinion of conservatives.
Speak for yourself and throttle back your convenient self-promoting presumptions.
Actually, it's a sedan.
It’s not an “opinion”, it’s a fact — as demonstrated by even the most cursory review of the past eight years. The damage was done by Bush and a Republican Congress; Obama merely continued on that course.
Hayek's dedication of the Road to Serfdom.
We're most blind to the failings of those closest to us.
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