Skip to comments.In Entitlement America, Making Minimum Wage Has More Disposable Income Than A Family Making $60,000
Posted on 11/22/2010 6:11:15 AM PST by Red in Blue PA
Pathetic. These people get to run their heaters at 80 degrees in the winter while I have to decide between having mine at 65 or 68.
A flawed comparison since many of the Gov’ment programs are “in kind” and not in cash - Medicaid being the biggest standout.
Only true if you have kids though. The government pays people to have kids they can’t afford.
You need to add to that..under the table work for cash. That goes right to the bottom line. Plus sometimes supplemental social security.
Indeed.....this is not a perfect comparison, but is a good reason why many are so frustrated.
Right now, 46% of my salary is taken in federal, state, & local tax before it even hits my bank account. I have less take-home pay now than I did before I went to grad school. Boy was I dumb.
Yep. We have created a society where it is actually more advantageous to work for minimum wage than to take a pay raise.
Looks like the people who pay for the party, don’t get to go to the party
That’s just it. A single person making $14K is barely scraping by, because they typically don’t qualify for many of the benefits available to families.
I know of one woman with 2 kids that gets $1650/month from Section 8 plus all the other goodies which in California are a lot more than those listed.
Picture this: someone living in a rent free apartment waiting for a grant to pay the electric bill calling an attorney to ask whether the landlord could evict them for no electricity since it wasn’t in the language of the lease!
And to top it off indicating they had never had a job.
Another column could have been those who don’t work at all, but have children out-of-wedlock.
I agree the comparison is flawed. It’s WORSE than depicted. The single parent earning $60,000 probably has to work hard for it. The welfare mom gets to sit at home, spend time with her children, and does so at the $60,000 earner’s expense!
Don’t forget a lot of the single moms have live in boyfriends that are off the books. The mothers know the system will penalize them dearly if they marry and/or report the boyfriend’s income.
I knew it wasn’t my imagination!
As my kids got closer to college age, it’s even more obvious.
My children’s poor friends all got a free ride with PELL grants and were able to live in the dorms with free meal cards. My kids have to live at home and we’re going to loose tons of money on transportation costs. (Not as much as living in the dorms would’ve cost us.)
I guess they’ve finally managed to level the playing field... bastards.
Yep. My mom is a welfare caseworker & she says this is the situation more often than not. These women apply for welfare, say they don’t know who the fathers is & that they’re not receiving child support, yet my mom will come time find out that the man is living with the woman & his income is not being reported. Problem is, the gov has the system set up so that my mom cannot yank the client’s benefits. She has to file a report, do mountains of paperwork which then ends up on some beaurocrat’s desk & wait for it to be “reviewed” which can be a year or so later.
Just ridiculous. The amount of fraud that gets let go is amazing. And the trash knows it, too. So they just continue to exploit the system. Is it any wonder we have a society with an entitlement mentality?
don’t forget to throw in child support with that group.
some of those women intentionally work lower paying jobs to keep up an inequity in income to get higher child support checks.
also, i didn’t see state paid child care on the list of “freebies”.
Years ago I remember some guy who went Galt. He’d made millions in the nascent Internet, then sold his very successful company that employed 50 people, put all the money into tax-free bonds and moved into the country. Now almost nothing of his goes to the government, and he employs nobody.
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The system encourages sloth and dishonesty. The welfare recipients KNOW how much they can earn before benefits are cut off. They have three choices:
#1 Limit work so as to not exceed the benefit limit.
#2 Work off the books and/or defraud the system by not honestly reporting all income, including other wage earners.
#3 Work harder to increase income, thereby LOSING benefits, like free food and medical care, and making LESS effective income for their children.
Is it any wonder that option #3 is the path less traveled?
Live in NYC?
sounds like Burger King has found their new recruiting pitch...
nope. I live in Pittsburgh & Allegheny county is the tax capital of the U.S.
“A single person making $14K is barely scraping by, because they typically dont qualify for many of the benefits available to families.”
Re-define family: Make a baby but do NOT get married or you’ll lose many of your benefits.
It is worse than depicted. The analysis did not take into consideration the cost of self providing equivalent health coverage for the persons making 60k per year.
I went by a Wal-mart the other day to get gas. No towels, no water no windshield cleaning solution... anywhere. Mentioned it to the kid attending the station... he doesn’t care and yet he thinks he should have a better job than the one HE CAN’T DO RIGHT!
Starvation would be a good idea in my opinion.
The way around it in California is the live-in boyfriend is reported as a roommate. That way $0 of his income is used as household income.
All the single moms with boyfriends here know that.
It’s disgusting. Work your way up, and all is taken, while those at the bottom get everything.
Could not agree more. The writing is on the wall.
This is a great chart that brings up so many problems with the welfare state. No matter how generous the welfare is, there is always a dividing line between who get's it and who pays it.
Last week MSNBC did a special on illegal immigration/amnesty and this problem was not mentioned at all. They only interviewed one amnesty desenter and he pointed out that once legalized most illegals will join the unemployed because of labor laws. Mostly they discussed how unfair the system is and how America has always resisted 'immigrants' out of fear. What was never asked was :
1) How to keep legalized illegals off the dole,
2) How to make sure once legalized they wont vote for more welfare.
Thanks for posting. This will come in useful.
What causes rage in taxpayers who actually work, pay taxes and find themselves unemployed are the following :
The moronic and oxymoronic "Income Tax Credit." Whoever invented that fraudulent title for a "gift" extracted from working taxpayers should do a few decades of hard time.
National School Lunch program --- again, the number of persons on this program is carefully avoided. Feeding the feral children simply breeds countless more.
Welfare tribes simply enjoy the disposable income this allows, and saves the bother of actually working to keep their little bastards alive. They deserve it more than the childern of people who have worked all their lives and find themselves unemployed, hungry and about to lose their homes?
Same goes for food stamps. Food stamps should be made available to every family which finds itself with unemployed household earners who were continuously employed for ten years or more. Anything left over is applied to the truly helpless absolutely means tested. Ablebodied human "pets" need not apply.
How do we "pay for it?" Start with the parasites who have cashed even a single welfare check at a casino. Discretionary spending must be earned. No exceptions.
That has to be the ticket in obamaland. I pray every day for some scandal to break that will bring him down.
A distinction without a difference.
Those of us who are not parasites need cash to satisfy the same basic need. "In kind" makes it worthless? In what universe?
I might be able to see food stamps for the basics, but childcare costs? School lunches? Rent subsidies? Utility bill assistance?
And there are other things not lsted on this list like th program which hands out cellular phones free of charge. Probably a hundred other things too.
Yes there are other things. Part of the “welfare to work” program provides the client with money to purchase a car, money for he purchase of uniforms & work clothes, gas money, child care funding, & of course, a stipend that will cover textbooks. The biggest part of this is given in cash, too, and the recipients know it. So where do you think the cah actually goes? I can tell you it most likely doesn’t go for its stated intent. And there’s no accountability for it. How stupid.
One of the best posts I have seen in a while, thanks!
Spread the wealth around, until there isn’t any, or the producers decide they just aren’t going to support the leaches any more.
WOW! That’s one amazing chart!