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Glenn Beck: They’re lying to us about the mystery contrail
HOTAIR ^ | November 19, 2010 | by The Right Scoop

Posted on 11/19/2010 11:20:16 AM PST by cruise_missile

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To: JustaDumbBlonde

>>>So you clicked on the thread and posted an apparent negative opinion of Beck .....why?

To irritate you. Did it work?


161 posted on 11/19/2010 6:35:25 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (FR Class of 1998 | TV News is an oxymoron. | MSNBC = Moonbats Spouting Nothing But Crap.)
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To: Keith in Iowa
"To irritate you. Did it work?"

Nope, but thanks for asking. LOL. All it did was shine a light on your credibility for future consideration.

162 posted on 11/19/2010 7:09:19 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: BfloGuy

When you say no evidence surfaced, you mean that rows 15-25 weren’t covered with PETN and RDX explosive residue?

And the secret wasn’t kept. Stephanopoulos blurted it out on the air on September 11. So did Katie Couric. Then John Kerry did the same thing a few hours later on Larry King Live. Then he did it again six days later on Hardball.

You’d be amazed at how easy it is to keep a secret when nobody wants to hear the truth.


163 posted on 11/19/2010 7:41:54 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: D-fendr
If the accuser does so in a reckless fashion, they lose their credibility and government can next time use this against them - when they have a more credible accusation. It's the 'Cry Wolf' scenario...

Thus far this is the risky position Beck is putting himself in.

What you say of accusers is true, though with respect to the 0bama administration, it is he and his cabal of Leftists who have been "reckless" with the truth. To his credit, Beck has always gone out on a limb...and been right about 0bama and his acolytes; He acts on instinct much of the time.

This is probably one of those times.

So investigation and some measure of solid evidence to support the missile hypothesis is necessary to avoid these negative consequences and ending up doing more damage than good.

The negatives cut both ways as I see it; The problem for 0bama and this government is credibility EVEN IF they manage to provide more than some measure of "evidence." If would have to be irrefutably rock solid.

164 posted on 11/19/2010 11:21:14 PM PST by Conservative Tsunami (0bama - All the compassion of a crocodile, wisdom of a crack addict, and ethics of the devil himself)
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To: Conservative Tsunami
The problem for 0bama and this government is credibility EVEN IF they manage to provide more than some measure of "evidence." If would have to be irrefutably rock solid.

I don't believe the administration is providing any evidence, they're not even addressing it. As far as government in toto, the DOD, NASA, NORAD combined say "not a missile."

There is quite a bit of evidence and research supporting the contrail hypothesis.

Therefore, I believe, independent research is going to have to come up with something fairly solid to force any further reaction from any governmental body.

Unless someone does this - and Beck can report on it - the missile hypothesis is not going much further, if at all.

That's why I think Beck is on a limb here. In his other leaps, he's had more with which to back his assertions. I don't see that here.

thanks for your reply.

165 posted on 11/19/2010 11:48:08 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: TigersEye; allmost

On the LOCKED THREAD, you demanded proof that CBS/the guy who filmed the video took over 10 minutes of video.

This is CBS NEWS.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/11/10/earlyshow/main7040379.shtml

“The video of what looks for all the world like the contrail of a missile was shot Monday evening by KCBS cameraman Gil Leyvas from a news helicopter over Los Angeles.

“I saw a big plume coming up, rising from looked like beyond the horizon and it continued to grow,” Leyvas said.

He zoomed his camera in and stayed on it for about 10 minutes. To him it looked like an incoming missile. “


166 posted on 11/20/2010 7:22:57 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: OldMissileer
Not trying to question you but is that time correct?

No worries. I took the figures from Wikipedia, which is usually fairly reliable on engineering topics.

As the largest heavy lifter ever built, it made sense as an extreme example for comparison.

167 posted on 11/20/2010 7:55:14 AM PST by RansomOttawa (tm)
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To: dead
Can you believe that every air traffic controller in California would lie too? None of them saw anything resembling a missle.

Where have you seen public commentary on this particular incident made by L.A. airspace air traffic controllers?

Any commerical fisherman or casual pleasure boater would also have to keep the secret if he saw a missle enter or exit the sea.

How many miles from a commercial or pleasure boat can you see before the curvature of the earth makes something out of view?

The 4,000 or so residents of Catalina Island certainly must have noticed and ICBM exploding from the sea right next to their homes.

What do the people of Avalon see when they look west or northwest?

168 posted on 11/20/2010 12:49:17 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: cruise_missile
I have NO clue.... however, why are the Chinese the only suspects?
169 posted on 11/20/2010 12:52:26 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts

I’ve seen people on here claim that it was China, Russian, Israel, North Korea, the USA, and bigfoot that did it. It’s far from ‘only China’.


170 posted on 11/20/2010 12:59:16 PM PST by Tolsti2
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To: Tolsti2
I’ve seen people on here claim that it was China, Russian, Israel, North Korea, the USA, and bigfoot that did it. It’s far from ‘only China’.

Ah, well I freely admit that I do not have the time to read every post and comment.... but all I have observed thus far is the Chinese the Chinese the Chinese.... well this does NOT make sense to me given for practical purposes IF this was a missile the Chi-coms are already in the 'catbird' seat over US economically.... Just does not add up to logic from my very limited knowledge in all things push and pull from the global community.

171 posted on 11/20/2010 1:04:52 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts

None of it makes any sense. It was a video of a plane and a lot of suckers thought and continue to think that it was something else despite all reason and evidence. What can you do?


172 posted on 11/20/2010 1:07:42 PM PST by Tolsti2
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To: Tolsti2
None of it makes any sense. It was a video of a plane and a lot of suckers thought and continue to think that it was something else despite all reason and evidence. What can you do?

Personally speaking there is a 'history' of government by action/inaction planting seeds to anyone and everyone to cause disbelief in their claims... I have NO CLUE as all I have is what others say... however, the finger pointing to the Chinese does not add up .... they already have what they have purchased... SO IF this was a 'threat' to US it must be from someone who is attempting to force an outcome that has not yet been reached.

173 posted on 11/20/2010 1:16:12 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: cruise_missile
JMHO : I think this was a missile.

I have seen launches from White Sands as well as Vandenburg

in past years,,,

It sure looks like a two stage rocket motor to me,,,

Who does it belong to ?,,,

If this was a planned shot the Navy would have chased

everybody out of the area and declared a “no fly zone”,,,

No blah,blah,blah from Russia or China,,,

So many questions...

174 posted on 11/20/2010 2:15:56 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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