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Avoid Social Issues, GOP Urged (Homosexualists, Pro-Aborts Co-opt Tea Party Movement)
Politico ^ | Sunday, November 14, 2010 | Ben Smith and Byron Tau

Posted on 11/14/2010 3:38:40 PM PST by kristinn

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To: B Knotts

Yada yada yada.

You people are hopeless. You simply cannot see the stupidity you recommend.


501 posted on 11/15/2010 12:50:02 PM PST by chilltherats (He was born with a roaring voice, and it had the trick of inflaming half-wits against their betters)
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To: Andrea19

The whole article, and that’s all you were concerned with?


502 posted on 11/15/2010 12:54:21 PM PST by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: chilltherats

“You simply cannot see the stupidity you recommend.”

And what, pray tell, would that be?


503 posted on 11/15/2010 12:55:44 PM PST by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: LomanBill; DJ MacWoW; metmom

This is the gorilla in the room.

Leftists, which include all liberals, Democrats and Paultard/liberaltarians, have at the core of their being, attachment to sexual libertinism. They will compromise occasionally on this or that, but they will never compromise on sexual libertinism. It is their core value and principle. They will never admit it; they will dress up this evil in the name of “freedom”, “right to choose”, “liberty”, “rights” and so on.

But what it is, when you strip off the wrapping paper, is addiction to sexual immorality the worst of vices, whether they practice them themselves or not. It is their God.

It is the core of feminism, homosexualism, indoctrination in schools, stripping the natural family and fathers of any rights or protections, AFDC and welfare, in fact all welfare programs, their love for legalized porn (see the threads about the “Pedophilia For Dummies” book on Amazon and how many freaking idiots on FR support that!), and so on. Michelle 0bastard’s visit (planned anyway, I didn’t see if she acutally followed through with it) to Mumbai’s “sex workers”, and so on.

Their focus on money money money is because they don’t want their golden calf touched.


504 posted on 11/15/2010 12:58:24 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: EternalVigilance

“What a load of destructive nonsense.”

It’s destructive nonsense to get caught up in social issues when there are so many things that are easier to fix. Lower taxes, cut spending, appointing non-activist judges and so on.

When these are fixed, move on to other issues.

“But, in fact, the raison d’etre of government in America, all government, including the national government, is to protect the unalienable rights of the people, all the people, equally.”

Exactly. That’s why it should stay the hell out of social issues.


505 posted on 11/15/2010 12:59:10 PM PST by CriticalJ (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.. But then I repeat myself. MT)
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To: little jeremiah

“But right now the fedgov will not ALLOW the states to address social issues.”

Now, that is something that should be addressed.


507 posted on 11/15/2010 1:00:13 PM PST by CriticalJ (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.. But then I repeat myself. MT)
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To: chilltherats

Obviously, you’re not one of us.

zot


508 posted on 11/15/2010 1:00:25 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Nuke the corrupt commie bastards to HELL!!)
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To: chilltherats

Well, whatever #506 was, it is gone, and now so are you.


509 posted on 11/15/2010 1:02:23 PM PST by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: little jeremiah

“Perhaps what you are overlooking is that the left has artfully intertwined all of those social issues into spending at the federal government. “

It’s time to artfully untangle these issues.

“You can not undo the government aspect without addressing the social issues of those groups backed by the government spending.”

Sure you can. It might not be easy and it might be painful, but in the end, it will be well worth it.

“If the Tea Party does not understand this, they are doomed to failure.”

We’ll see. They actually have to fend of the assimilation into the corrupt DC culture or it won’t even matter.


510 posted on 11/15/2010 1:03:12 PM PST by CriticalJ (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.. But then I repeat myself. MT)
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To: pillut48

Your homepage is beautiful. Those sonograms are amazing.

Who can see them and not be pro-life?


511 posted on 11/15/2010 1:05:42 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: chilltherats
I didn’t say they were allies. It doesn’t matter if they have an agenda that is the antithesis of ours. What I’m saying is that they are right about not using the Tea Party to press a social issues agenda. They want fiscal responsibility. So do we. Don’t fight with them. If they try to assert their platform within the Tea Party beyond fiscal matters, the response is to simply not let them get any power, not retaliate by shooting ourselves in the foot by mouthing off about asserting our social agenda. The left and the media would pitch an all-out assault. We have enough battles ahead of us without starting unnecessary, easily avoidable trouble.

Wise up. For once, try to see the wind up for a punch before it’s thrown at you.

There's a difference between social conservatives and homo-agenda pushers.

WE ARE RIGHT AND THEY ARE WRONG! Who gives a flying crap what the media says? They're merely the Goebbels arm of the left. You want conservatives to tippy toe around social conservatism to appease leftists?

"Working with" the GOProud or any other all-homo-agenda organization is suicide. Those guys aren't even fiscally conservative. Did you even read their agenda? I posted some of it above. The want SS benefits for their butt buddies, they want our gov to go after other countries whose homo-policies they don't like, they want fedgov handouts to "gay owned" businesses - fiscal conservatism my ASS!

All they care about - and they've admitted it! is the homo-agenda. You're either stupid or lying, and I don't care which, other than stupid can be fixed by reading.

512 posted on 11/15/2010 1:06:37 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: CriticalJ

The gov cannot be neutral. Either abortion is legal or it is illegal. Either homosexuals can be all over the place in the schools and military, or they cannot.

There is no third neutral ground.


513 posted on 11/15/2010 1:09:46 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: Antoninus

Antoninus, what do you think of my comment:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2627138/posts?q=1&;page=504#504


514 posted on 11/15/2010 1:17:35 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: DesertRhino
[the bitterness aimed at those of us who think constitutional fiscal conservatism is the answer]
 
Nothing wrong with Fiscal Conservatism.  
 
The conflict is manufactured by activists, such as those who've written this letter -- who claim that AMERICAN Fiscal Conservatism (and Fair Commerce) can exist in a moral sewer, when it can not.
 
What they're selling is not Liberty but Fatal Liberality - beneficial to Organized Criminals who will exploit the chaos - but not so beneficial to Lawful Citizens for whom governance is instituted to SECURE THEIR INALIENABLE RIGHTS... from the thievery of Organized Criminals.

515 posted on 11/15/2010 1:18:42 PM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: 50mm; darkwing104

chilltherats just got zotted and you can see from his comments why....

Two others were zotted previously.


516 posted on 11/15/2010 1:20:18 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: endthelies

Where do you stand on this?


517 posted on 11/15/2010 1:24:08 PM PST by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: WaterBoard; LomanBill; Jim Robinson; little jeremiah; xzins; P-Marlowe; metmom; trisham; ...
1) You seriously need to watch the personal attacks before you get banned here. It does not help aid your debate.

That is certainly ironic coming from someone who has been warned multiple times on this and similar threads today and yesterday.

Once more, if the Tea Party movement ejects or marginalizes social conservatives it WILL FAIL.

Ronald Reagan understood and demonstrated that successful conservatism included fiscal conservatism, social conservatism and a strong national defense. That is the ONLY WAY conservatism works.

Libertarians may want fiscal conservatism (actually I don't think many of them care as long as they don't have to pay taxes), but libertarians also abhor social conservatism and they are failures when it comes to national defense.

And if you want to come back with some nonsense about being a "Goldwater Conservative" who only believes in fiscal conservatism and national defense, you should remember that Goldwater was the GOP's McGovern, Mondale and Dukakis all-in-one, Goldwater's version of conservatism FAILED (you will NEVER hear a liberal describe himself as a "Mondale Democrat").

518 posted on 11/15/2010 1:29:09 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Captain Kirk
Heck, I don't much like Congress but even I don't think it is a CP organization.

I think that in 1963 it was read into the record as a warning. Of course now some congresscritters really are members of a socialist organization, some "progressive" Dem organization. I forget it's name. One of my Reps, John Hall, is a member. He was defeated in the midterms. Now he can go back to touring with Orleans. :-)

The excerpt was from a book, the Naked Communist.

At Mrs. Nordman's request, I include in the RECORD, under unanimous consent, the following "Current Communist Goals," which she identifies as an excerpt from "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen:

519 posted on 11/15/2010 1:38:26 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: chilltherats
>>This is about political astuteness
Well, maybe it ought to be about TRUTH for a change.
Maybe it's time the "politically astute" Vanguard Elite rainbow parasites in The Party(tm) get tossed out on their arse.
>>yet you people never learn.
Au Contaire - I learned this, and a few other things, when I went to Washington for the FR Natonal Tea Party Convention and 9-12:
"I HAVE SWORN UPON THE ALTAR OF GOD ETERNAL HOSTILITY
TO EVERY FORM OF TYRANNY OVER THE MIND OF MAN"
--
Thomas Jefferson
 
Gee, never heard about that in Church or School.

Now, let us ask the good Lutheran question: What does this mean?

Hmmmm....
520 posted on 11/15/2010 1:42:19 PM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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