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'LOST': What is with this series? (Save time, ask Freepers)
October 9, 2010 | This Just In

Posted on 10/09/2010 10:22:42 PM PDT by This Just In

As many of you know, my family and I do not watch television. Well, perhaps I should clarify. We do not watch televised programming. Needless to say, we don't keep up on popular programming.

Last week, during a family outing, we found a used DVD set of the first 'LOST' series. For those of you who are not familiar with my posts, as a general rule, I don't trust what is usually produced in Hollywood. I find a majority of the films and programs to be veiled Socialist/Communist, nihilistic propaganda.

The 'LOST' series did not disappoint. I found the liberal stereotypes to by typical, and J.J. and Co. didn't bother to veil their ideology in the series.

You have your typical "redneck"(Sawyer), "Conservative"(Shannon), "religious wacko"(John Locke), and the rest of the cast and motley crue of social rejects and garden variety criminals. To be "fair", we're also given your kinder-gentler do-gooders as well.

If I sound cynical it is only because I am. I found this series to be devoid of any transcending quality, and quite frankly, I feel as thoe J.J. is actually pulling the wool over the viewers eyes.

Must to my chagrin, some in our family finds the series to be very entertaining. So much so that after we viewed the first season, my loved ones bought the second. I find this program to be a complete waste of time, but I sit and view the episodes so that our family can share time together as well as discuss the series.

I am here to ask Freepers to help me out; bottom-line me here. I can no longer endure this series without finding out where the writers are taking the viewers.

Here is what I believe the jest of the story is. In just a few words, it seems to me that the island is either Dante's Purgatory, some place in the "after-life". I believe that everyone on the island is dead, but that the "Hatch" and underground dwellings like it are perhaps just another level of hell, or something like that.

I don't have the time, nor to I wish to waste anymore in expressing my opinion on what I believe is the overall message in the 'LOST' series.

So, would someone please provide me with a summary of what's going on, and what the conclusion to this story is?

What happens to Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Michael, Walt, Vincent, Charlie, Claire, Aaron, Rousseau, John Locke, Hurly? What happened to Jack's father? What is the source of the smoke and explosions in the jungle? What happened to Rose and Bernard?

I'm LOST.


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To: Citizen of the Savage Nation

I’m assuming Rose was, in fact, miraculously healed(?) Or did someone on the island treat her?

Well, watching the series with my family while keeping mum will be challenging, but I won’t spoil it for the family. Thanks for your time.

Good night.


81 posted on 10/10/2010 1:15:35 AM PDT by This Just In
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To: Citizen of the Savage Nation

You have provided all of the answers I was searching for. I will no longer be lost while watching ‘LOST’. Salute to you.


82 posted on 10/10/2010 1:17:22 AM PDT by This Just In
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To: This Just In

Actually, as it was Jacob who brought them to the island, those incidences were deliberate, as destiny vs free choice was one of the background themes of the show. Jacob visited Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Locke, Sun, and Jin at various times in their lifer before the plane crash. It was supposedly this influence that was responsible for these coincidences. Jacob also visited Hurley and Sayid, but only after they got off the island, so they weren’t connected like the previous group. It’s not your normal show.


83 posted on 10/10/2010 1:18:50 AM PDT by Citizen of the Savage Nation
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To: This Just In

Rose was healed, which is why they decided to stay on the island. The extremely strong electromagnetic properties of the island cause the healing. Glad to help, as you can see I enjoy talking about Lost.


84 posted on 10/10/2010 1:22:26 AM PDT by Citizen of the Savage Nation
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To: This Just In
Try to be honest and up front; you’re angry because I don’t care for a series you believe to the be, “...one of the best TV shows in recent memory.”

I should have warned you about this. "Lost" is one of those TV shows/movies that is like a video Rorschach test. Viewers can project virtually any storyline they like onto the show, because one's just as good as another. The writers threw a bunch of junk out there that seemed to make just enough sense to convince people that there was some real thought behind the story, rather than being a random jumble of crap. As a result, there are legions of fanboys out there who are convinced that "Lost" was the best show ever but you have to be able to "get it". If you don't like the show, it's because you didn't "get it", not because the show was a flawed mess. These fanboy types get pretty aggressive when the object of their adoration is criticized.

I noticed the same phenomenon with the remake of Battlestar Galactica, which was another show that started out good and then got retarded and artsy in a left-wing, drug-addict sort of way, but still has devoted followers that swear that the secret to the universe is contained in the show's plot.
85 posted on 10/10/2010 2:26:49 AM PDT by fr_freak
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To: This Just In

“...to each his own.”

Those were YOUR words, dummas, not mine.

You come onto FreeRepublic to gripe about a TV show you don’t like?

Find something productive to do, please, that doesn’t involve wasting bandwidth on your personal crap.


86 posted on 10/10/2010 2:29:53 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: This Just In

Your problem is that you didn’t get “Burn Notice” (or maybe “Rubicon”), rather than “Lost”. (Actually, I guess Rubicon is still in it’s first season.)


87 posted on 10/10/2010 4:01:17 AM PDT by The Duke
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To: This Just In
What happens to Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Michael, Walt, Vincent, Charlie, Claire, Aaron, Rousseau, John Locke, Hurly? What happened to Jack's father? What is the source of the smoke and explosions in the jungle? What happened to Rose and Bernard?

You gotta watch the show to find out.

88 posted on 10/10/2010 4:01:26 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Are they insane, stupid or just evil?)
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To: wastedyears
If you want a good series, check out NCIS.

Or "Breaking Bad" on A&E. Pulls no punches about Mexican Drug cartel violence.

89 posted on 10/10/2010 4:35:29 AM PDT by sonofagun (Some think my cynicism grows with age. I like to think of it as wisdom!)
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To: Citizen of the Savage Nation
Sun, Jin, and Sayid died in a submarine mishap caused by the Man in Black, who was eventually killed by Jack and Kate.

For proof of how involved this whole tangle of characters really is, the Man in Black also appears in another movie, as "Inconceivable" as that might seem. [The Princess Bride, by William Goldman, directed by Rob Reiner who delivered a fairly good movie despite his political views.]

90 posted on 10/10/2010 4:37:56 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: sonofagun
If you want a good series, check out NCIS.

... or "Sons of Anarchy"

91 posted on 10/10/2010 4:39:08 AM PDT by 6SJ7 (atlasShruggedInd = TRUE)
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To: This Just In

“And it’s amazing how all the young beauty’s look smashing and fresh as a daisy most of the time. They even manage to look chic when they’re dirty.”

Well, you’ve certainly made a good point there. Everyone has perfect gleaming bleached white teeth, too.


92 posted on 10/10/2010 5:28:50 AM PDT by Pravious
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To: This Just In

LOST is one of the siliest things I have ever seen on TV

As near as I can understand these people crash on a weird island with some supernatural properties and fall in love with it, and do stunningly stupid things to ‘protect’ it

And it gets worse from there


93 posted on 10/10/2010 5:40:15 AM PDT by Mr. K (PALADINO for GOV. OF NY --- VOTE LIKE YOUR CHILD'S LIFE DEPENDS ON IT! (BECAUSE IT DOES))
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To: This Just In; Citizen of the Savage Nation
And this is the lesson to NEVER ask Freepers for advice. You have to wade through so many cowardly posts made by idiots hiding behind their computer screens.

Kudos to Citizen of the Savage Nation for giving a honest step by step report on the series. Too bad you had to read so many stupid comments before he posted. There are couple of others but not enough to offset the idiots.

The writers of the show painted themselves into corners so many times that I stopped watching the show after three episodes. My girlfriend loved the show and we had marathons every weekend. We watched the final episode at a theater that was hosted by ABC. She owns an “Oceanic Airlines” t-shirt.

We created a drinking game where if a character asks another an “in your face, direct question” and the other character refuses to answer, you take a drink. We had to switch to mild wine coolers. LOL. I'm logging off.

94 posted on 10/10/2010 6:09:34 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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To: This Just In

Look right here on FreeRepublic. There used to be live threads which linked to detailed episode analyses. Just use search, if you are truly interested.

That said, yes, ‘Lost’ is incredibly theologically-impaired. There are indeed issues with causality and ordered-universe concepts.

That would be what the writers were playing with. I watched rather closely for five years, then realized that it had been an invigorating experiment with metanarrative which, because it was not grounded in an internally-consistent worldview, could never be satisfactorily resolved. Which was sad, because there were so many elements worth building up. They wanted to be transgressive rather than inspirational. So it goes.

It remains seminal in TV programming and narrative structure and would be a tremendous source for such things for a series that was actually grounded in an alternate reality having internal consistency.


95 posted on 10/10/2010 6:21:14 AM PDT by BelegStrongbow (St. Joseph, patron of fathers, pray for us!)
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To: This Just In

...which were all presented as tremendously wrongful things to do. Given that, your problem therefore resolves to ‘don’t ever include suicide as a plot element’?


96 posted on 10/10/2010 6:22:34 AM PDT by BelegStrongbow (St. Joseph, patron of fathers, pray for us!)
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To: This Just In

Somebody else already answered, but you are not correct. There is an element where the ‘characters...all died in the plane crash’ is included, but that is apparently not what happened. To say more is to provide a spoiler.

The origin of the Others (there is not just one group of them) is also a spoiler, which would ruin an entire season if said out. As I said elsewhere, go find the ‘Lost’ analysis threads if you actually want to know and are willing to read extremely long, intensely detailed studies, which trace the episodes shot-by-shot in order. I only read a few of them (having already seen the episodes) but I did find them interesting.


97 posted on 10/10/2010 6:26:10 AM PDT by BelegStrongbow (St. Joseph, patron of fathers, pray for us!)
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To: This Just In

EVeryone dies eventually, but Vincent lies down at Jack’s side as he dies in the main timeline at the very end of the series.


98 posted on 10/10/2010 6:28:57 AM PDT by BelegStrongbow (St. Joseph, patron of fathers, pray for us!)
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To: This Just In
Hey, remember that one episode of "Lost" where they almost find a way to get off the island until Gilligan does something stupid to ruin it all?
99 posted on 10/10/2010 6:34:23 AM PDT by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

It wasn’t cancelled, it ended—on THEIR terms.


100 posted on 10/10/2010 6:40:23 AM PDT by mom4kittys (See you in another life, brotha)
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