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Abby Sunderland's dad had TV deal as girl risked life at sea
NY Post ^ | 6/14/10 | ANITA BENNETT

Posted on 06/14/2010 5:39:18 AM PDT by jimbo123

Here's a dose of reality.

The father of teen sailor Abby Sunderland told The Post yesterday that he's broke and had signed a contract to do a reality show, "Adventures in Sunderland," about his family of daredevil kids weeks after she set off on her doomed and dangerous solo sail around the globe.

Laurence Sunderland, a sailing instructor who lives in the middle-class Los Angeles suburb of Thousand Oaks with his pregnant wife and seven kids, opened their home to film crews four months ago.

"The show might be about family, it might be about Abigail's trip. It's something that was shopped around," he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


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To: jimbo123; muawiyah
When she's older can she sue these vile companies who footed the bill so that she put her life at risk?

I think that Child Protective Services should assume custody of her, and check into the safety of her siblings.

What a bizarre stunt for her parents to encourage, so utterly dangerous -- and then the captain of the boat who rescued her fell overboard, and HE had to be rescued.

What a selfish, self serving, pathological weird set of parents. How dare they, and these vile sponsors, risk so many lives?

51 posted on 06/14/2010 6:22:46 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: jimbo123

Joint venture with octomom and Bubble Boys dad? Oh yeah, and Jon and Kate, too. Directed by Michael and Dina Lohan.

Just what we need- a reality TV series about scheming parents using their kids to achieve 15 minutes of fame and control of a trust fund


52 posted on 06/14/2010 6:23:37 AM PDT by silverleaf (Every time history repeats itself the price goes up)
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To: Oztrich Boy

You seem to know what you’re talking about. What would it cost to do this trip properly?


53 posted on 06/14/2010 6:25:11 AM PDT by DManA
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To: jimbo123

Pushing one’s children beyond what they want is not unheard of. Many tennis players were pushed like that, also golfers and other sports.

But although these kids may have been a bit miserable, they were not in danger.

I think this is sick behavior on the part of the father and wish he wouldn’t get a dime, altho he probably will.

Ironically, the thing that made the story front page news was the storm and rescue. I’ll bet he was secretly a little happy about that.


54 posted on 06/14/2010 6:25:28 AM PDT by altura
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To: jimbo123

This is by far the best article I’ve read about the voyage. It’s from Latitude 38, a great west coast sailing rag.

http://www.latitude38.com/lectronic/lectronicday.lasso?date=2010-06-11&dayid=438


55 posted on 06/14/2010 6:25:41 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Thanks for more input, but the other genius “stephenjohnbanker” is the one that needs to know this.


56 posted on 06/14/2010 6:25:48 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out; jimbo123
Man, newspapers can be nasty. Guy calls up, hawks his story, lets a few details slip, bam, they have a hitpiece.

Apparently he also tried to market Zac.

Zac Sunderland sailing speedily along as parents sink deeper into debt

Laurence probably has not shared this information with Zac, and said he'd never ask his son's many followers for financial assistance. But I noted long ago that there's a "Help support Zac's World Adventure" link on the left column of his website.

From the "Comments" section: The family has marketed this adventure from the get-go, and according to their own website "have several offers for media rights". It looks like they should stop holding out, and sell the rights to pay for the trip. - Posted by: Capt Jorge | May 18, 2009 at 04:54 AM

57 posted on 06/14/2010 6:28:10 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: ilovesarah2012
Who paid for the girl’s sailboat?

Obama?

58 posted on 06/14/2010 6:28:30 AM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: caver

I pinged you because I responded to a reply to you.


59 posted on 06/14/2010 6:28:51 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Travis McGee; stephenjohnbanker

I’m agree with both of you! On the one hand, I think it’s essential for young people to take up challenges, and I think the culture of “safety-obsession” goes to insane lengths. I’ve had people upset at me because I let my little boys (8, 6, 4) play on the playground within sight of our house “by themselves.”

On the other hand, taking unnecessary risks in order to achieve an attention-getting “record,” and making a tv-show of your family in anticipation of someone’s perhaps being willing to pay for it, is unwise and bizarre.


60 posted on 06/14/2010 6:30:30 AM PDT by Tax-chick (A cat may look at a queen.)
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To: Travis McGee

” So they rolled the dice with her life, to gain the fame.”

Yep. That is sick!

I stand corrected. Thanks again.


61 posted on 06/14/2010 6:31:08 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Oh I am sure it's changed much....and I imagine that homes that were purchased when my cousin lived there...went nuclear in price since then.

Thus probably making most of those like my cousin upper middle class in assets....

Used to be a company in WestLake Village called RayPak....that I did business with...way back when.

Cheers!

62 posted on 06/14/2010 6:39:02 AM PDT by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: caver
Probably, he's already run through what he made on forcing his son to do the same thing.
63 posted on 06/14/2010 6:39:49 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: DJ MacWoW

” From the comments section: The Sunderland home is very modest. I can comment on the neighborhood because I live in it myself. The situation is such that a significant number of the homes have 3-4 families living in them. Yea, it is that type of neighborhood.”

There is a postage stamp sized section of Thousand Oaks called “old town”, where mostly Mexicans live. That must be it

Homes in Thousand Oaks range from 500,000 to 6 million.


64 posted on 06/14/2010 6:40:00 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Trash is trash, what does home schooling have to do with it except to have complete brain washing control in this case.


65 posted on 06/14/2010 6:42:03 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Osage Orange

” Used to be a company in WestLake Village called RayPak.”

Still should be there. At least it was for 25 or more years ;-)


66 posted on 06/14/2010 6:42:26 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Thanks. I’ve never been there but always thought it was upper middle class. Guess not all of it is.


67 posted on 06/14/2010 6:44:29 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: ilovesarah2012
Eh? That depends on who is looking at her ~ you ~ or French fishermen who've been at sea for 3 months.

I'm sure she is being well cared for. They will all be gentlemen ~

68 posted on 06/14/2010 6:46:54 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: DManA

Well for me about 250 thousand and a suite on the QE 2


69 posted on 06/14/2010 6:48:47 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom sarc ;))
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To: muawiyah

i bet she gets frenched kissed


70 posted on 06/14/2010 6:49:29 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom sarc ;))
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To: caver; DJ MacWoW

” Thanks for more input, but the other genius “stephenjohnbanker” is the one that needs to know this.”

See post 61, where I clearly admit I was wrong, then read post 64.

By the way, Wayne Gretsky’s house in Thousand Oaks recently sold for $19,000,000.00

Now go suck an egg, smartass.


71 posted on 06/14/2010 6:49:50 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: al baby

You look at it that way the QE2 is a bargain.


72 posted on 06/14/2010 6:50:29 AM PDT by DManA
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To: DJ MacWoW

” Thanks. I’ve never been there but always thought it was upper middle class. Guess not all of it is.”

Old town is about 4 square blocks. It represents about 1% of Thousand Oaks, regarding land mass ;-)


73 posted on 06/14/2010 6:51:42 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: DManA
What would it cost to do this trip properly?

Well I'm only listening to what the experts associated to these ventures are saying.

Don McIntyre, who lent Jessica Watson her boat, says a basic boat could be fitted out for $A100,000.

JESSICA WATSON - The Making of Pink Lady

100K may be for a voyage mainly outside the Southern Ocean, and Jessica's little pink tank was more.

I have seen estimates in the high 6 figures ("wrong again liberal media!"). Actual ballpark might be, oh say $A300,000 (and you still have the boat at the end of the voyage)

74 posted on 06/14/2010 6:53:38 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (a 16 year old Australian girl already did it. And she did it right.)
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To: DManA

And leave the driving to someone else


75 posted on 06/14/2010 6:53:44 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom sarc ;))
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To: jimbo123

Before I knew any info on the Dad or family, I voiced an opinion about the irresponsibly of parents who would let a young girl take on this dangerous trip. I see nothing that has changed my opinion.


76 posted on 06/14/2010 6:56:17 AM PDT by D1X1E (Trust but verify... especially if you got your information from the government.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Think I heard thru the “vine” they moved to Oxnard.....


77 posted on 06/14/2010 6:56:22 AM PDT by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: Osage Orange

” Think I heard thru the “vine” they moved to Oxnard.....”

I hope they hablo the ol espanol ;-)


78 posted on 06/14/2010 6:57:33 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: jimbo123

Of course he did, same with the Everest kid climber and any other reprehensible 15 minute of gamer out there using their kids to make a buck, our moral fabric is in shreds....


79 posted on 06/14/2010 7:00:50 AM PDT by databoss
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To: jimbo123

“he has 6 more chances at the record.”

Well it only costs $65,000 to get guided up Mt. Everest and the youngest to do so was 13, so maybe he should look elsewhere to get his kids into the record books. The mortality risk for Everest climbers is only about 10%, which is probably lower than the odds of getting killed trying to sail solo around the world.

Even in good times, sailing instruction doesn’t seem that lucrative, so I can’t quite understand why someone in that field living in an expensive area like Thousand Oaks would be having that many kids. It’s hard to feel sorry for his plight.

It’s nice to support your kids in pursuing their dreams. I just wonder whether he himself even recognizes how much “her” dream really simply reflected his own. It does definitely seem like safety considerations were ignored in the rush to get her into the record books. If the dream were simply to sail solo around the world, there’s no particularly good reason it couldn’t wait until a safer window of opportunity returned.


80 posted on 06/14/2010 7:03:13 AM PDT by DrC
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To: traderrob6

Maybe home schooling is not a redeeming quality in this family. More like home indoctrination.


81 posted on 06/14/2010 7:07:40 AM PDT by altura
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To: D1X1E

I did, too. Some accused me of being overprotective and not appreciating adventure. I have not changed my opinion either.


82 posted on 06/14/2010 7:09:33 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

I haven’t posted on any of the previous threads about this because I didn’t know that much.

Not that it usually stops freepers (or me for that matter).

Now that I know more, I definitely blame the father. I’m am usually hesitant to cast blame on parents, it’s way too easy, but in this case ....


83 posted on 06/14/2010 7:12:26 AM PDT by altura
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Here is a story about the South 40s from a few years ago. The 3 racers in question were very experienced, physically strong, highly disciplined sailors in boats considerably larger that the Sunderland boat AND this happened to them in summer in the 40s. http://articles.latimes.com/1990-01-27/sports/sp-667_1_southern-ocean-storms-reduce-field/5

Sunderland’s dismasting was a foregone conclusion. She cheated death - in most cases it would be fatal in winter in the 40s. No 16 year-old girl should be sent out on a solo around-the-world sailing “adventure”. Even for highly experienced seamen it is more than dangerous enough.

I have had to respond to several on FR who had a “romantic” view of the Abby Sunderland fiasco. The people who think that this is “exciting”, shows “grit”, etc. would undoubtedly have been outraged if the Sunderland girl had gotten it in her head to go over Niagra in a barrel and her father let her. The risks, however, would be not all that different.


84 posted on 06/14/2010 7:16:48 AM PDT by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Si’ amigo!


85 posted on 06/14/2010 7:21:45 AM PDT by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: Travis McGee

I would say that pretty much covered it.


86 posted on 06/14/2010 7:29:08 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

“Now go suck an egg, smartass.”

OK


87 posted on 06/14/2010 7:31:19 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: jimbo123

bump


88 posted on 06/14/2010 7:46:17 AM PDT by VOA
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To: caver


He’s broke, got 7 kids and a pregnant wife. I assume that the taxpayers
are supporting this lowlife and his family?

Having lived in West Los Angeles during 1995-2005...not likely,
BUT, not impossible.

I always remember being behind a couple (likely from the former USSR)
using food stamps, then climbing into a nice Mercedes.
This was on Wilshire Blvd., about on the line between West LA and
Santa Monica.


89 posted on 06/14/2010 7:51:09 AM PDT by VOA
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To: VOA

The Russians and illegal Mexicans have the welfare schtick down cold. The illegal Mexicans all drive SUV’s tho ;-)


90 posted on 06/14/2010 8:00:58 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: DrC

The good news is that the dad has been fully exposed. His financial irresponsibility almost cost his daughter’s life. Reputable sponsors will not touch this family with a ten foot pole. This reality show won’t be aired. He should get back to work building boats and stop prostituting his family.


91 posted on 06/14/2010 8:03:40 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123
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92 posted on 06/14/2010 8:05:48 AM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: jimbo123

“They rarely leave their house, and they rarely talk to neighbors,” local resident Brian Gonzales said.


93 posted on 06/14/2010 8:19:59 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: Oztrich Boy

In the short space of just a few days, this poor girl has gone from lost at sea to a money-cadging ne’er-do-well; how fickle the public image...


94 posted on 06/14/2010 8:29:21 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: Old Professer

Not the girl. The parents.


95 posted on 06/14/2010 8:39:01 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: wolfcreek
"Who, might I ask, is going to pay for her rescue?"

Is anyone asking to be paid?

96 posted on 06/14/2010 8:53:05 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: moehoward

The last that I read was that the French vessel hadn’t made a decision yet.


97 posted on 06/14/2010 9:08:10 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: synbad600

Sounds like he should have done that 7 kids ago.


98 posted on 06/14/2010 9:23:03 AM PDT by Dexter Morgan (Everyone hides who they are.)
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To: jimbo123
It looks like most people took the bait and hook.

Can't trust those "isolationist" homeschoolers. Letting a young person take risks or pursue his/her dreams is "indoctrination" or worse "child endangerment." The State needs to crack down on these terribly dangerous parents, take all their children into the caring arms of child protective services, possibly farming out some of the kids to loving homosexual couples/tripples/whatever.

99 posted on 06/14/2010 10:03:06 AM PDT by nonsporting
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To: Tax-chick; maica
On the other hand, taking unnecessary risks in order to achieve an attention-getting “record,” and making a tv-show of your family in anticipation of someone’s perhaps being willing to pay for it, is unwise and bizarre.

Especially in the EPIRB era, where you can push the emergency button at any time, knowing that the entire world will mobilize to rescue you, even sending an Airbus just to do a half-million-dollar fly-by.

Prior to EPIRBs, if you went voyaging, it was all on you. Sink or swim. Your life, your choice.

In the EPIRB era, extreme risk takers on mad voyages to the southern ocean in winter know that Mommy Government will rescue them, and pay for it!

100 posted on 06/14/2010 10:10:28 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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