Skip to comments.Timing on Hutaree Raid Troubling
Posted on 03/30/2010 7:17:56 AM PDT by johnqueuepublic
March 29, 2010 - San Francisco, CA - PipeLineNews.org - In this administration nothing happens by accident, at least at the public relations level and DOJ's widely reported raid this last weekend on a group with extremely limited previous public visibility [the Hutaree, a tiny Michigan based group] might well be similarly tainted.
The defendants, David Brian Stone, David Brian Stone Jr., Joshua Matthew Stone, Tina Mae Stone, Joshua John Clough, Michael David Meeks, Thomas William Piatek, Kristopher T. Sickes and Jacob J. Ward, were variously named in a previously sealed indictment go here, Federal indictment Hutaree on 5 counts, including seditious conspiracy [USC 2384], attempt to use weapons of mass destruction [USC 2332], teaching and/or demonstrating the use of explosive devices [USC 842(p)(2)] and two counts of carrying or possessing a weapon during commission of a crime of violence [USC 924 (c)(1)].
Though the charges against this group might well turn out to be sustainable and the threat they posed great and imminent, the mere fact of the timing of this raid is troubling, coming in the immediate wake of a sustained attempt by Democrat politicians to characterize opponents of the Obama agenda as violent right-wing Christian racists, to the extent of having Democrat politicians charge - absent any proof - that they have been victimized - spat upon, subjected to the "n" word and other indignities - by the Tea Partiers [it goes without saying that Dem stunts such as Nancy Pelosi's grand march, gavel in hand, past protesters last week at the Capital were intended to provoke responses which could then be amplified by the MSM].
Helping set the scene, unofficial WH spokes-tard Frank Rich [a former drama critic] chimed in conspiratorially and in hushed tones, writing in the NY Times, "...to find a prototype for the overheated reaction to the health care bill, you have to look a year before Medicare, to the Civil Rights Act of 1964...If Obama's first legislative priority had been immigration or financial reform or climate change, we would have seen the same trajectory. The conjunction of a black president and a female speaker of the House - topped off by a wise Latina on the Supreme Court and a powerful gay Congressional committee chairman - would sow fears of disenfranchisement among a dwindling and threatened minority in the country no matter what policies were in play. It's not happenstance that Frank, Lewis and Cleaver - none of them major Democratic players in the health care push - received a major share of last weekend's abuse. When you hear demonstrators chant the slogan 'Take our country back!,' these are the people they want to take the country back from."
Adding fuel to this phony cellophane fire another of the usual suspects, the race whores at Southern Poverty Law Center issued [see, Rage on the Right, http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2010/spring/rage-on-the-right] a "report" which quoted Chip Berlet [a lefty whack job] as saying, "We are in the midst of one of the most significant right-wing populist rebellions in United States history...We see around us a series of overlapping social and political movements populated by people [who are] angry, resentful, and full of anxiety..."
In a March 24 interview with Boston Public Radio WBUR [see, When Right-Wing Extremism Moves Mainstream, http://www.wbur.org/npr/124906766] SPLC's "director of publications and information," Mark Potok stated as if on cue, "I think it's very clear that you see ideas coming out of all kinds of sectors of the radical right, from the immigrant radical right, from the so-called Patriot groups, the militias and so on - and you see it spreading right across the landscape at some of these Tea Party events...I think it's worth saying that much of this is aided and abetted by ostensibly mainstream politicians and media members...I think a lot of these ideas start on the radical right, but they are also being flogged endlessly by Republican officials...Even those who are sort of considered [to be] responsible Republicans have completely abstained from any kind of criticism of this talk. So even way back when, when Sarah Palin was talking about Obama setting up death panels and so on - what we heard was a deafening silence from the mainstream of the Republican Party." [source, http://www.wbur.org/npr/124906766] As Discover the Networks points out about SPLC, "In 1996, USA Today called SPLC, with its $68 million in assets, "the nation's richest civil rights organization." By the end of fiscal year 2003, SPLC's endowment totaled $120.6 million. Morris Dees raised eyebrows in the 1990s when he told an interviewer, "I learned everything I know about hustling from the Baptist Church. Spending Sundays on those hard benches listening to the preacher pitch salvation - why, it was like getting a Ph.D. in selling." [source, http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/Articles/splcworldview.html]
Demonstrative of the use to which the Hutaree indictment and the general rabble-rousing around spurious allegations can be put, are the stealth jihadists at the Council on American Islamic Relations [CAIR. named as an unindicted co-conspirator in the United States largest Hamas terror prosecution, U.S. vs. Holy Land Foundation, et al.], "Dawud Walid, executive director of the Council on Islamic-American Relations of Michigan, made an announcement Sunday during the group's 10th anniversary banquet about receiving a call from a network journalist about the alleged threat against Muslims..." [source, http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2011468492_militia29.html]
For the record regarding this allegation, Gina Belaya, a spokeswoman for the federal prosecutors' office in Detroit, when contacted this afternoon by PipeLineNews.org, categorically denied any knowledge that the Hutaree group had targeted Muslims, stating that in the DOJ's opinion, "the government," was Hutaree's perceived enemy.
In the sphere of DC politics and ratcheting up the gambit more than a bit, Henry Waxman [chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee] acting as grand inquisitor, last week demanded that AT&T, Verizon, Caterpillar, and Deere & Co. justify their claims about the "costs the companies plan to book related to the new health-care law," clearly delineating a hard-line, zero tolerance policy regarding criticism of team Obama.
Given the foregoing, it seems that this administration and its allies are purposely targeting its critics in a manner which it hopes will demean them as fringe players, thus stoking the poisonous whisper campaign that the Tea Party movement and other critics of Obama's policies represent a fundamental and violent threat to the United States.
Thus we have been given a glimpse into a brave new world in modern day American politics, one in which dissent becomes conflated with violence at the topmost levels of government. If the first 14 months of this administration seemed a challenge for the conservative majority, Obama's intolerance of any level of criticism will make the remainder of the term memorable on several fronts.
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There is a lot of truth in your posting, imho, thanks.
Jamat al Fuqra is indeed a very troubling organization, its ties to Sheikh Gilani who fled to Pakistan, alone should be of major concern to national security types.
JQP, I am with you, we will stand and remain proud!
I just checked the websites video section and it confirms that they have no video segments regarding the guy and his arrest.
Get used to it. The Dems see painting the right as extremists as a major weapon in the coming elections. Most of the alphabet channels' focus comes directly or indirectly from team Obama, and all negatives, such as the fringe militia group, trumped-up racial slurs, etc., will be used in the upcoming campaign.
The the fact of media bias is omnipresent, it’s existence isn’t news, we don’t have to accept it however and don’t have to go silent when it happens in such an obvious manner.
We can thank our friends at Bozell Media Research Center for carrying on the good fight regarding this matter.
Bozell’s MRC, Brent Bozell.
They do have an informant. It was reported that someone in the “Michigan Militia” was working with the feds...BTW, he just happens to be Muslim.
“It was reported that someone in the ‘Michigan Militia’ was working with the feds...BTW, he just happens to be Muslim.”
Their concerted propaganda efforts against the Right, (using this family's arrest) is not just politics as usual.
I forget which paper ran the story. When this group was being raided I guess some members contacted the Michigan Militia looking for help in a place to stay. The guy refused.
The article listed the guy's name and said he was working with the feds.
So you are defending these individuals as nothing more than misunderstood patriots?
Oops, you must have posted to the wrong person!
Mine was the post about Obama and his minions using this arrest against the Right (political dissent).
What information leads you to believe this invesigation started during the previous administration?
I dont believe that is exactly correct re the MM guy, yes he claimed he wanted no part of giving refuge to Hutarees, no surprise there, but I dont remember him saying he was working with the Feds, he was was indeed contacted by the press however.
Holder has got to go. The same with Janet Napolitano. These two are instrunental in the villify the right program.When they raided these dirt farmers in Michigan, they just made 30 million enemies who now will not rest until they are BOTH gone.
The article I read, there have been dozens in Mlive, said he was working with the feds.
I dont think anyone here believes that plotting to kill LE is anything but reprehensible.
Our piece merely suggested there may be a connection, regardless of the possible guilt of the Hutarees, with the Dem sturm un drang re GOP/conservative/Tea Party dissent.
Unless the threat posed by the Hutarees was imminent, then the decision to move against them could have been made with political considerations in the mix.
I reamin unconvinced, read everything that was out there, might have missed something.
If you dig it up please provide a link and thanks for the response.
It seems it was a detroit news article, and one of the first that claimed Huntaree planed to target muslims, but I'm not sure.
And if as the charging papers indicate the plot was to be carried out in April, it sounds to me they acted in a timely fashion.
Their political views are leftwing...they hate cops, who have a rich history of hating cops...who have killed and attempted to kill cops...Hussein’s friends in the WeatherUnderground were quite good at it, and to this day are proud of themselves.
No, the commies in charge are in the process of using propaganda...this arrest to smear the Right.
Since none of the things have happened, it’s just conspiracy, isn’t it?
“They cant focus on a leader and demonize him or her ala Alinsky.”
There IS a sort of leader, though: the Internet....
“One of the Hutaree members called a Michigan militia leader for assistance Saturday after federal agents had already began their raid, Lackomar said, but the militia member — who is of Islamic decent and had heard about the threats — declined to offer help. That Michigan militia leader is now working with federal officials to provide information on the Hutaree member for the investigation, Lackomar said Sunday.”
LOL! I’ll bet a dollar none of these folks voted democrat.
Good deal - thanks.
Whatever. I’m not so blinded by ideology that I would believe a bunch of self described Christian militia types running around the woods would identify themselves as democrats. It simply doesn’t compute.
Yes we read the available documentation completely, there seems to be a lot of “givvy” room in the way the indictment is put together. This is not unusual if you are familiar with grand jury
Will be interesting to see what happens when counsel is retained by these folks and the first court proceeding ensue.
Thanks for responding regardless.
No, your ideology believes in smearing good patriotic Americans with the criminal intentions of a wacko family in Michigan.
Does Ursus Horribilis defecate amongst the conifers?
I might remind everyone that flight 800 was an accident in spite of numerous witnesses who were told they didn’t see what they saw. Further, the labeling of Timothy McVeigh has always been that he was a right wing nut case. Maybe, but have you ever seen ANYONE put to death so quickly in this country? There is a little known thought that he was actually in league with a muslim terrorist group and was an active participant. But THAT would spoil the government’s theory so we just can’t go there.
Look, folks. After Waco and Ruby Ridge I have ZERO trust in what the government says about anyone who might oppose them. Please note the comment made by the compliant media that one of these people made “anti-tax” statements, that being he couldn’t afford an attorney because he had been raped by property taxes. Yasss, fair an unbiased reporting. So now you just believe what the media and your government tells you and go back to sleep.
He doo doo that...lol
“killed him a bar when he was only three...”
I've said it on several threads prior, "This raid was a shot over the bow of the USS Teaparty! Message sent: Disobey and you are next.
The template for this particular piece of agitprop was intiated in February when the "Tea Party is Racist" campaign started.
FWIW, Ruby Ridge took place before Reno/Clinton, in August of 1992.
killed him a bar when he was only three...
Correct, the bear was only 3, Davy Crocket was 35./sarc
Yes I know, but the civil court case dragged on into the Clinton years, and so did the surveillance on Randy Weaver.
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