Posted on 03/20/2010 11:33:56 AM PDT by pillut48
It’s good we have TGO on our side - still will be atough battle to save our America.
The December Senate bill is very stinky and corrupt and will become law if they have the votes. The companion reconciliation bill is just a fantasy, and political theater that the Senate Dims will be reluctant to invest much effort in passing. The Dims desperately want the public to have health care amnesia so they can move on to other disastrous distractions such as amnesty.
At least with the Senate bill, the Dims will have a big “kick me” sign plastered on their butts.
What we’re watching is a high-stakes chess game. Keep the faith.
Or they might know “to deem” is political suicide...
When would the wording of a Deem & Pass look like?
I am Helen. However, I, like millions of other true Americans in this country am at a “boiling” point at what is going on in my country.
At this point the only thing thats clear is everyone is confused.
Think I'll just sit back & pray for the best.
So — could the RATS do this:
1. House Pass the Senate bill
2. House Pass their reconciliation bill
3. The Senate bill goes to Obama, who sits on it while,
4. Senate debates and ultimately passes the House reconciliation bill, which then
5. Goes to Obama who then signs both, in essence simultaneously.
Using Obama to buffer the first bill would give assurance to the weak-kneed Dems that the Senate bill won’t become law without their changes.
“And they cant add the amendments until after the President signs it.”
And once he gets what he wants, he won’t bother Congress with it any more, he won’t need them- he’ll immediately begin hammering immigration “reform” through, so that 30 million more people will be covered under his shiny new bill. Congress won’t have time to “fix” anything.
He won’t have to pay attention to, or sign, any amendments until he’s further along in his agenda.
Health care amnesia no way!! It is like forgetting a freight train bearing down on you.
True, those issues will remain as our best hope, it would seem. Anything to slow it down until it can be repealed!
I am not negative. That was a negative thing you said. And I had a negative reaction to it. How are you feeling about my reply? A little negative....? sheesh..no one can say anything lately without rude replies....I just said..........
There could be a strong challenge to this bill on the grounds that it REQUIRES citizens to purchase insurance, which in itself is UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
Cardoza is only his secret identity. He’s really Aquaman.
I’ve backed the truck up too
trying to find a freeper nascar thread and the golf tournament is minutes away on NBC ...( looks like a straight putt,right Rog ?...ax’s Johnny Miller)
Whatever the reason, I am glad they dropped deem and pass. They were at least prevented from using that tactic.
As for their majority vote count, if the House had a majority to pass the Senate bill, they would do that immediately. Perhaps they will be able to build a majority over the next couple of days, but I would say they don't have that yet.
“The House must approve the Senate’s version of the heath care bill and President Obama must sign that legislation into law before the “fix-it” bill, known as reconciliation, can come into play.”
Ok...so does that mean the House will have to pass the Senate version, it gets signed into law and, as well, the House has to “trust” that the Senate will have to go back at some point and “fix” what they don’t like?
No, the Washington Examiner piece is pretty clear; Waxman wants no part of “deem and pass.” I think a lot of Dems are getting cold feet over the tactic and will scramble to find the votes in the next 24hrs.
Also remember, in the Senate Orin Hatch warned Dems that Republicans in the Senate would use two different rules that would send the bill to the House again and require a straight up or down vote.
Yancy
.. but they’ll pass it with Satan’s approval.
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