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LIVE HEALTH CARE THREAD ~ SATURDAY & SUNDAY
20 March 2010

Posted on 03/20/2010 7:07:53 AM PDT by SE Mom

Edited on 03/21/2010 5:00:38 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

10 AM Rules Committee meeting (C-span2 LIVE all day)

11 AM Stupak press conference

12 PM Demonstration at the Capitol

3 PM Obama meets with the Democratic caucus

Sunday
2 p.m.: The House will debate for one hour the rules of debate for the reconciliation bill and the Senate bill.

3 p.m.: The House will vote to end debate and vote on the rules of the debate.

3:15 p.m.: The House will debate the reconciliation package for two hours.

5:15 p.m.: The House will vote on the reconciliation package.

5:30 p.m.: The House will debate for 15 minutes on a Republican substitute and then vote on the substitute.

6 p.m.: The House will vote on the final reconciliation package.

6:15 p.m.: If the reconciliation bill passes, the House will immediately vote on the Senate bill, without debate.


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To: GVnana

how can they not have the votes with Stupak’s betrayal of the pro life movement?


4,651 posted on 03/21/2010 4:46:32 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Lobbyist

“Me too. The Bourbon is sitting on the counter and it’s calling my name. :)”

Little bit of Bourbon and you might be able to tolerate listening to the Boy Wonder’s speach later on LOL! ........just for laughs of course.


4,652 posted on 03/21/2010 4:46:32 PM PDT by Cheryllynn
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To: GVnana

Subjects to citizens to subjects in less than 250 years.


4,653 posted on 03/21/2010 4:46:54 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Outlaw Woman

Steve King said they don’t have the votes?

PRAY!!!!!!!

May God bless your friend! Thank you for the report!


4,654 posted on 03/21/2010 4:46:57 PM PDT by onyx (God save our Republic!)
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To: Cheryllynn

tax cheat rangel up


4,655 posted on 03/21/2010 4:47:02 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: bigbob
No, the Senate isn't going to kill the bill. They are also not going to pass the reconcilliation language from the House. They are going to get their original bill over to Obama untouched and have him sign it.

No honor among thieves, don't cha know?

Take a look at Senate Budget Committee Ranking Member Judd Gregg’s statement tonight.

“Immediately after receiving the final reconciliation bill language, Senate Republican staff was ready and willing to meet with Senate Democratic staff and the Senate Parliamentarian to discuss the fact that the House reconciliation bill may be brought down by the 310(g) point of order in the Senate. Senate Democrats are mysteriously unavailable until after the House votes on the health care bill tonight. The Senate Democrats appear to be pushing off this meeting so that House Democrats will remain in the dark about what is likely to happen to the reconciliation bill on which many have staked their careers in Congress. House Democrats should be alarmed by this latest development, since the survival of the reconciliation bill is clearly at risk in the Senate.

4,656 posted on 03/21/2010 4:47:11 PM PDT by arkady_renko
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To: 9YearLurker

Rangel up.

Should be in JAIL instead of the House floor.


4,657 posted on 03/21/2010 4:47:33 PM PDT by WeatherGuy
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To: RummyChick

The crook speaks!


4,658 posted on 03/21/2010 4:47:44 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: Dinah Lord
May need to go back for more...

Maybe she's counting votes, and had to take her shoes off... BI%(H

4,659 posted on 03/21/2010 4:47:48 PM PDT by dfwddr (Where am I going, and why am I in this handbasket ???)
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To: backwoods-engineer

RANGEL - Please go away you POS!


4,660 posted on 03/21/2010 4:47:54 PM PDT by smokingfrog (You can't ignore your boss and expect to keep your job... WWW.filipthishouse2010.com)
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To: Cheryllynn

“Me too. The Bourbon is sitting on the counter and it’s calling my name. :)”

Little bit of Bourbon and you might be able to tolerate listening to the Boy Wonder’s speach later on LOL! ........just for laughs of course.

It would take more than Bourbon! LOL


4,661 posted on 03/21/2010 4:48:01 PM PDT by Lobbyist (capitalist)
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To: backwoods-engineer

Sander Levin sounds like he’s had a few himself, doesn’t he?

Here comes that crooked SOB Rangel - what a lying cheat. And making this all about him.

He needs to be run out of town on a rail.

Most ethical Congress evah! /s

Pi-tuey!


4,662 posted on 03/21/2010 4:48:11 PM PDT by Dinah Lord
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To: backwoods-engineer

Rangel - Doesn’t want to distract from the bill by talking about himself.....by talking about himself....LOL!


4,663 posted on 03/21/2010 4:48:16 PM PDT by BossLady (POLITICS - Showbiz for Ugly People)
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To: smokingfrog

go lay on the beach you tax cheat


4,664 posted on 03/21/2010 4:48:20 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: SE Mom

Ah, here’s Charlie Rangell. If he simply paid the taxes he owed, maybe his constituents could get health coverage.


4,665 posted on 03/21/2010 4:48:24 PM PDT by Hoodat (For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: onyx

Communication will be vital from now until November - I’m thinking FR needs something like a weekly newsletter with the latest stories, updates, links etc. Some kind of reference point for everything that will be happening from now until the election.

What do you think?


4,666 posted on 03/21/2010 4:48:25 PM PDT by Brytani (Will someone PLEASE give Obama a Monica so we can impeach him?)
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To: AlanD

You are right. I was using 3/4 even though I knew it was 2/3rds. Very few bills vetoed ever get overturned. Just dreaming about handcuffing Obama for 2 years.
So the numbers to override a veto would be Senate 67, House 288.


4,667 posted on 03/21/2010 4:48:25 PM PDT by 4Godsoloved..Hegave (Trusting God is a full time job, He is on duty 24/7 .)
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To: LadyBuzz
I’m into the single malt scotch .....

Just in time for Commie Charlie Rangel! Pay your taxes, you old thief!

And he just keeps talking after his time is expired!

4,668 posted on 03/21/2010 4:48:26 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer ("It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself." --Jefferson)
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To: plain talk
They are focusing too much on the wrong enemy. We have two football teams engaged in an intense struggle. We have some slackers on our side that need to be replaced. But the coaches didn't select them - the parents did and many of them like the slackers just fine because they too are slackers. Now is not the time for this crap while marxists are passing legislation and even our slackers (RINOs) are helping us on this one.

Yes, the threat , the enemy are the democrats/Marxists.

Democrats are turning our once free republic into a socialist utopia where we will all be starving slaves of the government.

4,669 posted on 03/21/2010 4:49:01 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Why is no government creating a product we can hold in our hands like a cell phone..?)
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To: onyx

LOL! Enjoy it, m’dear onyx.

If I still drank- God knows, I’d have one now too.


4,670 posted on 03/21/2010 4:49:18 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat veteran)
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To: Natural Born 54
"Americans need to remember where it all started and decide if liberty is worth fighting for again because that is situation we are in after today"... There is really no choice now. Either we fight with all we've got, or bow down to them and accept all they dish out from now on. Curse them in our homes, when snitches aren't listening, at least until Big Bro installs the bugs to overhear you.

The line has been drawn. I'll fight and if I die, that's better than living in slavery. (to paraphrase Churchill's immortal words.)

4,671 posted on 03/21/2010 4:49:23 PM PDT by molybdenum ((A nation without borders is not a nation......Ronald Reagan.))
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To: onyx

Stupak is a baby killing bastard. Sold his vote for an airport improvement huh? His new campain slogan should be “No Fetus Can Beat Us”


4,672 posted on 03/21/2010 4:49:33 PM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: LadyBuzz
I’m into the single malt scotch ...

Cheers! Putting the buzz in LadyBuzz! ;^D

4,673 posted on 03/21/2010 4:49:42 PM PDT by Dinah Lord
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To: Brytani

You’e got to be kidding me.

These guys should be in Orange Jumpsuits.

Please send this to Coburn’s office.


4,674 posted on 03/21/2010 4:49:58 PM PDT by HonestConservative (When Injustice becomes law, resistence becomes duty. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: arkady_renko
Thank God for all the Patriots who love the Constitution
4,675 posted on 03/21/2010 4:50:04 PM PDT by factmart
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To: molybdenum

Healthcare is a right! Wow.


4,676 posted on 03/21/2010 4:50:30 PM PDT by tropical (One Year Anniversay Smoke Free 03-17-10)
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To: Dinah Lord

I dont know who the democrat is giving out the time..but is he always like this..sounds drunk


4,677 posted on 03/21/2010 4:50:36 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: factmart

Facebook page is on fire with support for Stupak’s opponent

Daniel Benishek is running for Congress against Bart Stupak. Since Stupak announced that he cut a deal with Barack Obama and will now support Health Care Reform, Benishek’s Facebook page has been on fire with well-wishes, and commitments of donations.

Benishek is pro-life, and as a surgeon knows a little about Health Care.

http://www.thecypresstimes.com/article/News/National_News/CONTRIBUTIONS_NOW_POURING_IN_FOR_STUPAKS_OPPONENT/28650


4,678 posted on 03/21/2010 4:50:37 PM PDT by Ladycalif ("If you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one." Jesus)
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To: Dinah Lord

Oh boy - on FNC just now. Woman arrested outside Steny Hoyer’s office.


4,679 posted on 03/21/2010 4:50:42 PM PDT by Dinah Lord
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To: Tuxedo
Life needs to be made extremely unpleasant for these Demonrats when they go home for the Easter Recess

Demonrats, exactly , They deemed this bill , that they are deemons.

4,680 posted on 03/21/2010 4:50:49 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Why is no government creating a product we can hold in our hands like a cell phone..?)
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To: Outlaw Woman

UPDATE FROM D.C.

My Friend called and they read my text message over the PA and PLUGGED FREE REPUBLIC. THE CROWD IS SO TIRED AND REALLY APPRECIATED WELL WISHES.

THEY ARE BEGGING FOR BACK UP SO THEY ARE ASKING FREEPERS CLOSE TO THE D.C. AREA TO COME OUT AND HELP. THEY NEED YOUR PHYSICAL SUPPORT. AND PLEASE PRAY.


4,681 posted on 03/21/2010 4:50:59 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (II Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Cheryllynn
Little bit of Bourbon and you might be able to tolerate listening to the Boy Wonder’s speach later on.....There is NOT enough bourbon in Tennessee to tolerate a Zero presser !!!!!
4,682 posted on 03/21/2010 4:51:04 PM PDT by dfwddr (Where am I going, and why am I in this handbasket ???)
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To: mrreaganaut

LOL. Don’t drink it all!


4,683 posted on 03/21/2010 4:51:09 PM PDT by reaganaut
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To: PIF; All

Keep one thing in mind during these horrific times -— Success is the best revenge. We can’t let them get away with it.


4,684 posted on 03/21/2010 4:51:09 PM PDT by varina davis (Life is not a dress rehearsal)
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To: tropical

Stop screaming! Barf-o-rama!


4,685 posted on 03/21/2010 4:51:11 PM PDT by sissyjane (He had a dream. We got a nightmare!)
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To: HonestConservative

We can’t wait! Health care is a right!


4,686 posted on 03/21/2010 4:51:12 PM PDT by smokingfrog (You can't ignore your boss and expect to keep your job... WWW.filipthishouse2010.com)
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To: All

Congressman Lewis, if health care is a right, then why am I being forced (at the point of a gun) to pay for it with my tax money?


4,687 posted on 03/21/2010 4:51:15 PM PDT by Hoodat (For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: Hoodat

Oh my GOD, John Lewis should be ASHAMED.


4,688 posted on 03/21/2010 4:51:24 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat veteran)
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To: StarFan

Yes, I sent it to Greta also and it took place shortly before last year’s first vote — so early November 2009 or late October 2009.


4,689 posted on 03/21/2010 4:51:24 PM PDT by onyx (God save our Republic!)
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To: RummyChick

I thought he may have a flask in his pocket....LOL!


4,690 posted on 03/21/2010 4:51:43 PM PDT by BossLady (POLITICS - Showbiz for Ugly People)
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To: jazminerose

15,000 IRS thugs—all hired from ACORN.


4,691 posted on 03/21/2010 4:51:50 PM PDT by Palladin (The Obama administration is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: Dinah Lord

Not only will I not watch the Pacific, but I will not buy it for anyone, nor will I frequent anything related to Speilburg or his frequent producer Kathleen Kennedy, no relation.


4,692 posted on 03/21/2010 4:51:50 PM PDT by HonestConservative (When Injustice becomes law, resistence becomes duty. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: SE Mom

LOL. Thanks!!!!


4,693 posted on 03/21/2010 4:51:53 PM PDT by onyx (God save our Republic!)
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To: arkady_renko

I certainly fear that our nation is being overrun tonight with no shots fired! If the crooks can pull this off then they can do anything they want to....there is nothing we can do. Watch now for the immigration bill...it will also play out just like the terrible health care bill...but they will pass that too. Since they do not serve the people, we have no voice. I do not believe the Nov. election will change anything. They have the power now to see that the results are just as they want them.....God Bless the America that used to be.


4,694 posted on 03/21/2010 4:51:54 PM PDT by maeng ( l)
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To: tropical
Healthcare is a right! Wow.

I screamed at the computer! Who was that guy? He sounded like Calypso Louis Farrakhan!

4,695 posted on 03/21/2010 4:52:19 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer ("It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself." --Jefferson)
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To: dfwddr
There is NOT enough bourbon in Tennessee to tolerate a Zero presser !!!!!

There's not enough bourbon in AMERICA for that!

4,696 posted on 03/21/2010 4:52:31 PM PDT by retrokitten
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To: 9YearLurker

Subjects to citizens to subjects in less than 250 years.

Did you ever think you’d see this in your lifetime? I never did. I can’t help thinking that we lost our Representative Republic today.


4,697 posted on 03/21/2010 4:52:49 PM PDT by navymom1
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To: retrokitten

Thanks, Kittie...can we have hope again tonight that this will be stopped?


4,698 posted on 03/21/2010 4:53:00 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("After all...tomorrow is another day." Scarlett O'Hara, Gone with the Wind)
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To: WFTR

Ditto the rest part.

“...no one would consider doing the same to a returning vet today.”

Tell me about it... almost turned around and went back to Europe.

But under King Hussein, that will return...


4,699 posted on 03/21/2010 4:53:02 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine .. now it is your turn..)
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To: All; SE Mom; RummyChick

From my automatic email:

“STATEMENT BY THE NATIONAL RIGHT TO LIFE COMMITTEE
ON ABORTION “DEAL” ON HEALTH CARE LEGISLATION

WASHINGTON — (Sunday, March 21, 2010, 6 PM EDT) — In response to today’s announcement regarding an agreement between Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mi.) and President Obama on the pending health care bill (H.R. 3590), the following statement was issued by the National Right to Life Committee (NRLC), the federation of right-to-life organizations in the 50 states:

The National Right to Life Committee (NRLC) remains strongly opposed to the Senate-passed health bill (H.R. 3590). A lawmaker who votes for this bill is voting to require federal agencies to subsidize and administer health plans that will pay for elective abortion, and voting to undermine longstanding pro-life policies in other ways as well. Pro-life citizens nationwide know that this is a pro-abortion bill. Pro-life citizens know, and they will be reminded again and again, which lawmakers deserve their gratitude for voting against this pro-abortion legislation.

The executive order promised by President Obama was issued for political effect. It changes nothing. It does not correct any of the serious pro-abortion provisions in the bill. The president cannot amend a bill by issuing an order, and the federal courts will enforce what the law says.

To elaborate: The order does not truly correct any of the seven objectionable pro-abortion provisions described in NRLC’s March 19 letter to the House of Representatives, which is posted here: www.nrlc.org/AHC/NRLCToHouseOnHealthBill.pdf

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Regarding Community Health Centers (CHCs), NRLC has documented the problem created by H.R. 3590 here: www.nrlc.org/AHC/NRLCMemoCommHealth.html.
Prof. Robert Destro, a professor of law and former dean of the Columbus School of Law at the Catholic University of America, and an expert on abortion-related litigation, has sent lawmakers a letter explaining why the bill opens the door to direct federal funding of abortion in Community Health Centers: www.nrlc.org/ahc/DestroLetterToStupakOnCommHealthCenters.pdf

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Prof. Destro clearly explains why it is the statutory language that will govern.

Regarding the new program to provide tax credits to purchase private insurance, the executive order merely tinkers with the formalities of a bookkeeping scheme under which federal subsidies will pay for plans that cover elective abortion — a break from the longstanding principles of the Hyde Amendment.

The order does nothing at all to mitigate the other abortion-related problems described in the NRLC letter, dealing with bill provisions that create dangerous regulatory mandate authorities, revise Indian health programs, and create pools of directly appropriated funds that are not covered by existing restrictions on funding of abortion. Nor can the order correct the omission from the pending legislation of the necessary conscience-protection language that had been included in House-passed health care legislation last November (the “Weldon language”).

For additional information regarding the abortion-related components of the legislation, and NRLC’s assessment of the gravity of these issues, please refer to the March 19 letter linked above, and other materials posted on the NRLC website at www.nrlc.org/AHC/Index.html. “


4,700 posted on 03/21/2010 4:53:09 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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