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WHITE HOUSE HEALTH CARE MEETING - LIVE THREAD
The White House ^ | 2/25/10 | Blueyon

Posted on 02/25/2010 6:18:39 AM PST by blueyon

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To: eater-of-toast

Well...I was at an event at the American Ambassador’s house in Brussels and I actually WON the album as a gift....

Go figure.

I don’t care what Shep is...but from what I saw today...he wasn’t helping the debate. He was acting like one of the opinion guys...

He should stick to “straight” news.


5,341 posted on 02/25/2010 7:25:12 PM PST by Winstons Julia (The liberal mantra: Never enough.)
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To: Norman Bates

GOP=PARTY OF KNOW

Original was in a Tennessee newspaper. Tenn freeper posted it in first 1,000. Several have been spreading it around all day. Please do the same.

Just change tag line.....


5,342 posted on 02/25/2010 7:26:22 PM PST by hoosiermama (GOP= Party of KNOW)
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To: kimmie7

I take vitamins and supplements, too.

We’ll have to get them on the black market.


5,343 posted on 02/25/2010 7:33:34 PM PST by Palladin ("I am wearing my dead brother's dentures.")
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To: Norman Bates
Did you come up with that?

No. A letter writer in this morning's Tennessean did. You can read his letter in post #2439 on this thread.

I think the point became more clear in the so-called summit today: the Pity Party vs. the Party of Know.

5,344 posted on 02/25/2010 7:34:01 PM PST by fullchroma (Obama: GET OUT OF MY DOCTOR'S OFFICE!)
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To: Winstons Julia

Abeautiful and moving testimony.

You’ve done your Mom proud.


5,345 posted on 02/25/2010 7:38:16 PM PST by Palladin ("I am wearing my dead brother's dentures.")
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To: Cricket24
I just wish someone would have explained “how” this would lower premiums!

That's the question I keep asking. Every opportunity I get, I ask Obama voters to explain to me how a monopoly (i.e. single-payer plan) will result in lower prices and better service. I dare them to show me a single monopoly where this is the case. And yes, these are the same people who rant about the collusion of oil companies/pharmaceutical companies/insurance companies, etc., and the high prices/poor service that results from it. Of course when it comes to the government, everything will be different.

5,346 posted on 02/25/2010 7:39:07 PM PST by Hoodat (For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: Norman Bates
Republicans are now the party of 'know'

Several recent letters to The Tennessean have excoriated the Republicans because they have refused to go along with the legislative proposals of the Democrats, while Democrats hold substantial majorities in Congress.

These writers have derisively referred to the Republicans as the “party of no” claiming that they have offered no ideas to help solve the nation’s problems.

While the claim of offering no solutions is arguable, I would posit that a “no” is oftentimes justified.

I know a hot stove will cause injury to my child, so having an alternative plan to my command of “no” isn’t really necessary.

The Republicans saying “no” to the massive expansion of federal programs Democrats are trying to force through Congress know that such will erode individual liberty and the nation’s fiscal well-being.

Maybe, at least in this instance, the Republicans should be referred to as the “party of know.”

Donald Griffin, FRANKLIN 37069

5,347 posted on 02/25/2010 7:39:25 PM PST by fullchroma (Obama: GET OUT OF MY DOCTOR'S OFFICE!)
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To: onyx

I missed Luntz, it’s been a crazy, crazy day.. I followed the hearings both here and in my car and at the gym, but when I got home was painting my lattice before it got dark and missed BOR, will catch Hannity and Greta on re-runs.. what did I miss?


5,348 posted on 02/25/2010 7:43:58 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: onyx
The advantage of hindsight offers several reasons as to why this was a disaster for the Democrats.

1. When Obama took on the Republicans at their conference in Baltimore, it was the whole room against him. He gained points for toughness because it appeared that he held his own against an overwhelming number of opponents. In this setting, Obama was one of the entire panel, thus lowering himself to the position of simply being one of the combatants.

2. Obama's poor speaking ability is amplified when those on his side also talk with a lack of coherence. Again, when he was by himself, people cut him some slack on this because he was against the whole room. Whoever decided to bring some of those 'old veterans' to this discussion should have their credentials revoked.

3. By making it a SIX HOUR event, the opportunity to get bogged down was a foregone conclusion. Make it a one hour event and things move along pretty snappy. By committing to a "thorough airing", Obama guaranteed that somewhere along the way, someone would say something ridiculously stupid. He just didn't expect it to be him.

4. Serious misjudgement about the actual points of discussion. Sob stories are a great way to humanize a discussion; however, they, in and of themselves, cannot be the entire discussion. Mix in a few facts, even if they're wrong.....

Massive failure on so many fronts. Poor decision making, petty attitude, no leadership, lack of foresight and unpreparedness.

5,349 posted on 02/25/2010 7:47:57 PM PST by TexasNative2000 (This seems like fairly decisive evidence that the dream can, in fact, die.)
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To: Winstons Julia
I don’t care what Shep is...but from what I saw today...he wasn’t helping the debate. He was acting like one of the opinion guys... He should stick to “straight” news. I agree. Opinion journalism is not Shep's friend: his excitable little yapper dog manner makes straight news lively enough (even if his style isn't for me), but he lacks the philosophical base and seriousness necessary for opinion work. I like someone more serious like Hume, but given Shep's success, I guess there are plenty of people who feel differently.
5,350 posted on 02/25/2010 7:52:52 PM PST by eater-of-toast ("It is much more important to kill bad bills than to pass good ones." -- Calvin Coolidge)
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To: caww

He was AWFUL! I wonder if he realizes it.


5,351 posted on 02/25/2010 7:55:11 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: TexasNative2000

Good analysis and great points.

It’s mindboggling that out of the six hours, Obama hogged three hours for himself.


5,352 posted on 02/25/2010 7:56:37 PM PST by Palladin ("I am wearing my dead brother's dentures.")
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Painting a lattice! That sounds delightful! I love lattice work. I missed BOR. His replay starts in 10 minutes. Hannity - Sarah was on from Alaska and also McCain - and Greta has a good show.


5,353 posted on 02/25/2010 7:57:23 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: TexasNative2000

Excellent points, TexasNative2000!

Obama was also unprepared for a very prepared and co-ordinated GOP. He stuttered and stammered and had to resort to rather rude behavior. He should not have tried to make it quite so informal either. Calling the senators and House members by their first names was not a good form.

Obama also hogged too much of the time. As it turned out, Obama had more time than the Republicans were given altogether nd the democrats had twice the time of the Republicans.

LOL @ the sob stories. The denture story will remain a classic, but the others were run of the mill and totally out of place.

I think the GOP did a grand job and apparently that’s the consensus. It’s up to the democrats now, just like it’s been from the start.


5,354 posted on 02/25/2010 8:07:04 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: maggief
I think he calls his own name out during sex.

He can't decide if he's a cunning linguist or a master debater.

5,355 posted on 02/25/2010 8:15:56 PM PST by rfp1234
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To: maggief
I think he calls his own name out during sex.

Makes sense. You don't think he has sex with Michelle, do you?

5,356 posted on 02/25/2010 8:18:29 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: rfp1234

Scientific words...no wonder I had to think about that :-)


5,357 posted on 02/25/2010 8:19:38 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: onyx

McCain again... IS Hannity one of his campaign managers, McCain hardly gave Fox the time of day when he was running for President, now Hannity or Greta have him on constantly..

Yes, lattice on the patio was getting too weathered, spring is coming and I’ve been painting and planting spring flowers.


5,358 posted on 02/25/2010 8:26:22 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Sheesh. I am beginning to think he’s a Fox News contributor!


5,359 posted on 02/25/2010 8:27:44 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: eater-of-toast

I think something happened to Shep when he was covering Katrina; ever since he has been one step away from the looney bin and has a hard time dealing fairly with Republicans he interviews on his show.


5,360 posted on 02/25/2010 8:28:46 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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