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Old Boxing Matches
Townhall.com ^ | December 29, 2009 | Thomas Sowell

Posted on 12/29/2009 5:15:27 AM PST by Kaslin

Watching old boxing matches on DVDs tells us something about some of the ways in which American society has changed.

The first thing I noticed about the boxers back in the era of Joe Louis, from the 1930s into the 1950s, is that they all wore regulation boxing trunks and they didn't have tattoos. There was no trying to outdo each other with garish boxing trunks or wild tattoos. They didn't try to stare each other down when the referee was giving them instructions before the fight.

Seldom did any of these boxers go in for showboating during the fight. There was no denigrating the other fighter, either before or after the fight.

After Joe Louis knocked out an opponent, any comment he made was usually along the lines of "He's a good fighter and very game." Sometimes Louis would add, "He had me worried for a while," though there was seldom any real reason to worry.

One of the few fighters who did give Joe Louis a real battle, and who was ahead on points when Louis knocked him out, was Billy Conn. But, when Conn lost his balance in their much anticipated rematch, Louis simply let him regain his balance before continuing the fight. How many boxers today would do that, especially against someone who was a real threat?

Although Joe Louis was widely respected as a model of sportsmanship, he was by no means the only one who behaved like a gentleman in the ring. That became a norm that heavyweight champions after him tried to live up to, until the 1960s.

Early in his career, Louis was upset by Max Schmeling, who knocked him out. Although Schmeling was from Germany and some tried to depict him as a Nazi, Schmeling went over to help Louis to his feet after the knockout.

In their rematch, the first thing Max Schmeling did upon entering the ring was go over to Louis' corner to shake hands with him, even before going to his own corner. It was a gesture that distanced him from the Aryan supremacy interpretation of his victory over Louis that the Nazi regime in Germany had made after their first fight.

The loutish, loudmouth and childish displays that have become all too common today in boxing, as well as in other sports, began in the 1960s, like so many other signs of social degeneration.

What about the quality of the fighters themselves? There have been great fighters in both earlier and later times. Mike Tyson's one-round knockouts electrified many boxing fans but Joe Louis still holds the record for one-round knockouts in heavyweight championship fights.

The only way you can be sure who hit harder would be to be on the receiving end of their punches-- and none of the boxing pundits ever agreed to do that.

Louis' punches tended to be short and quick, but guys went down like they had been struck by lightning. When Louis knocked out Jimmy Braddock-- the "Cinderella Man"-- to win the championship, Braddock lay face down on the canvas without moving while he was counted out, and afterwards his handlers had to come out from his corner to get him back on his feet.

It was much the same story when Rocky Marciano won the championship from Jersey Joe Walcott. After a right to the jaw from Marciano, Walcott fell limp. As he fell, his arm got tangled in the ropes, so that Walcott fell forward, with the top of his head resting on the canvas. He was counted out in that position without moving a muscle-- and his handlers too had to come get him and revive him, before they could take him back to his corner.

How would the fighters of the past do against the bigger and heavier fighters of a later era? We will never know. What we do know is that Rocky Marciano, who was strictly a knockout fighter, never fought as heavy as 190 pounds and Joe Louis was at his best at no more than 200 pounds.

It is much easier to compare the referees. The old-timers didn't keep issuing warning after warning, for round after round. They penalized violations. More lax officiating may be why so many fights in recent times have had so many clinches and so much wrestling and dirty fighting.

That too is unfortunately a reflection of the general trends of our time.


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To: Kaslin

The tragedy is not decorum or manners, but that boxers were permanently damaged from boxing. It damages the brain so assuredly that none escaped serious brain damage. The moment their career ended, they were and are discarded, most to live in poverty, their wealth having been looted from them by corrupt management.

Ironically, it is the smarter ones today, or at least their management, that goes for the sideshow, the color, that the author objects to. They do so to make their matches more entertaining and interesting, thus to get better box office. Instead of just titillating the blood lust of the “purists”, they would rather go home having put on a show, yet not being crippled in the deal.

I cannot find fault in this. Is a dog fight more entertaining than a dog show?


21 posted on 12/29/2009 6:28:52 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

He must be referring to Cassius Clay
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Yep, the Mouth from Louisville changed the dynamics of the “sport”.


22 posted on 12/29/2009 6:33:03 AM PST by Canedawg (FUBO)
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To: Senator John Blutarski

Just watch an episode of 24/7 on HBO with Floyd Mayweather and the family.

The elder Mayweathers look like crack fiends in high dollar pimp clothes. And no. Money can’t buy class.

Unfortunately, there are a lot of classy guys still in boxing, but they don’t get the airtime afforded to Mayweather et al. Money May should relaize the gift he got in his first fight with Jose Luis Castillo.

Mayweather needs to quit making excuses and fight Pacquiao. He’s looking like a scared little girl at the moment.


23 posted on 12/29/2009 6:35:17 AM PST by Lance Romance
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To: Kaslin

It happens EVERYWHERE now.

EVERYBODY’S a rock-star nowadays, in WHATEVER field they’re in.

For boxing, I believe it was Cassius Clay who opened the door for this. I think he was GREAT, but a lot of the attention he got was for his outspoken, over-the-top behavior outside the ring.

And, of course, after him comes the next guy who has to be even bigger, louder and badder... and so on...


24 posted on 12/29/2009 6:50:25 AM PST by J40000
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To: Kaslin

The decline, FTW ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fDsaost1lE


25 posted on 12/29/2009 6:58:59 AM PST by Quilla
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To: Kaslin
It was much the same story when Rocky Marciano won the championship from Jersey Joe Walcott. After a right to the jaw from Marciano, Walcott fell limp. As he fell, his arm got tangled in the ropes, so that Walcott fell forward, with the top of his head resting on the canvas. He was counted out in that position without moving a muscle-- and his handlers too had to come get him and revive him, before they could take him back to his corner.

It is considered the greatest knockout in heavyweight boxing history.

the actual knockout punch

26 posted on 12/29/2009 7:13:50 AM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (Sarah Palin "the Thrilla from Wasilla")
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan
actual punch
27 posted on 12/29/2009 7:38:10 AM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (Sarah Palin "the Thrilla from Wasilla")
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan
an artist's rendition
28 posted on 12/29/2009 7:41:09 AM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (Sarah Palin "the Thrilla from Wasilla")
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To: Kaslin

Greatest Fight I ever saw was the third Ali-Frazier - The Thrilla in Manila.


29 posted on 12/29/2009 7:51:48 AM PST by sono ("The System Worked!" Janet Incompetano)
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To: driftless2
I watched the Marciano-Walcott fight on tv a few weeks ago. While Walcott was ahead on points before he was knocked out, he had taken a beating from Marciano (and given Marciano a good one too) up to that point.

That was Marciano's first Championship fight. He was the challenger.

Marciano retired as the only undefeated Heavyweight Champion. 49 fights, 43 by knockout.

30 posted on 12/29/2009 7:52:27 AM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (Sarah Palin "the Thrilla from Wasilla")
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To: saganite

Gerald McClellan seemed pretty classy, too, but he was badly injured in a fight with Nigel Benn and is now blind.


31 posted on 12/29/2009 9:28:45 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (We're right, we're free, we'll fight and you'll see!)
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To: Kaslin; abigail2; Amalie; American Quilter; arthurus; awelliott; Bahbah; bamahead; Battle Axe; ...
Thanks for the ping, Kaslin.

I remember that the showmanship started with Ali and though he and others were good fighters boxing as a sport went downhill as Dr. Sowell noted.

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32 posted on 12/29/2009 9:51:16 AM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: sono
Greatest Fight I ever saw was the third Ali-Frazier - The Thrilla in Manila.

I really liked the Hearns-Hagler punchout. The first round was just about the most intense I've ever seen. After that, Hagler chased Tommy around 'til he got him.

33 posted on 12/29/2009 10:16:38 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan
Another great one depicting Jack Dempsey getting sent through the ropes by Luis Firpo in 1923.

I've always loved this painting.


34 posted on 12/29/2009 10:29:46 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.)
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To: Inwoodian
I believe it was Vince Lombardi who told a young player who show-boated after scoring a touchdown, “Act like you’ve been there before”. Hope I can remember that one for my brother.
35 posted on 12/29/2009 10:37:05 AM PST by kalee (On the fifth day of Christmas my true love gave to me...)
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To: LibLieSlayer
I no longer watch the professional sports of my childhood... always did... but no more... I even gave up NASCAR after they went hollyweird.

At least there's still golf... oh wait...

36 posted on 12/29/2009 10:43:05 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: saganite

Evander cheated with headbutts. He was headbutting like crazy in the fight where Tyson bit his ear off.


37 posted on 12/29/2009 10:58:06 AM PST by MitchellC
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To: Kaslin
Sportsmanship Þ Showmanship
38 posted on 12/29/2009 12:09:15 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: jazusamo

Thanks for the ping jaz.


39 posted on 12/29/2009 1:21:12 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...Call 'em What you Will, They ALL have Fairies Living In Their Trees.)
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40 posted on 12/29/2009 1:26:54 PM PST by Scythian
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