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Immigration Overhaul Bill Unveiled In House [12M Illegals: Called "Most Generous" Legislation!]
LATimes ^ | December 15th 2009

Posted on 12/15/2009 8:46:45 PM PST by Steelfish

Immigration Overhaul Bill Unveiled In House The legislation, which includes a path to legalization, is met with criticism from conservatives and liberals.

By Antonio Olivo and Teresa Watanabe December 15, 2009

Reporting from Los Angeles and Chicago - Raising the curtain on a new round of debate over immigration reform, a group of Democratic congressional lawmakers introduced a comprehensive bill today that, among other provisions, would offer a path to legalization for the country's estimated 12 million illegal immigrants.

The bill, championed by Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.) was decidedly more pro-immigrant than the bipartisan legislation House lawmakers defeated two years ago. And the latest version drew immediate fire from the left as well as the right. Groups opposed to legalization derided it as a form of amnesty, and more-liberal factions complained that it relied too heavily on enforcement.

In Los Angeles, immigration activists hailed the measure at a news conference before heading to local lawmakers' offices -- aboard a yellow school bus festooned with banners -- to urge their support.

"This is a big day for us," said Jorge-Mario Cabrera of the Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights of Los Angeles. "Our community has been awaiting this bill for a long time."

Cabrera called Gutierrez's bill the most generous immigration legislation in more than two decades, citing provisions that would allow migrants to legalize their status without returning to their home countries, prohibit separation of families, offer more visas for workers and relatives and eliminate local enforcement of federal immigration law.

The bill also calls for beefing up border security and overhauling the federal detention system for jailed immigrants to provide for better medical treatment and other services.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; byebyeusa; immigrantlist; population

1 posted on 12/15/2009 8:46:48 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish
No such thing as an "illegal immigrant". You must have an immigration visa to be an immigrant.

The people targeted in the story are actually illegal entrants into the United States, not immigrants.

2 posted on 12/15/2009 8:48:29 PM PST by muawiyah (Git Out The Way)
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To: Steelfish

I’m honestly curious to see which way McCain will go on this one, what with the election coming up. Will he follow his heart and support this, or will he once again try to play a conservative and go against it.


3 posted on 12/15/2009 8:49:52 PM PST by ABQHispConservative (A good Blue Dog is an unelected Blue Dog. Ditto Rino's!)
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To: Steelfish

12 million my ass.

More like 30 million. Then, if this crap passes, the former illegals will be allowed to bring in their relatives, for a total of 100 million from south of the border.

Time for revolution!


4 posted on 12/15/2009 8:50:03 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (A Jimmy Carter got us a Ronald Reagan.....a Barack Obama will get us a Sarah Palin)
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To: Steelfish

Are they trying to pass the trifecta of Health Care, Cap and Trade and Amnesty all in the same week before the end of the year? Just wondering.


5 posted on 12/15/2009 8:51:18 PM PST by Pantera
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To: ABQHispConservative

I have always preferred the term “illegal alien.”


6 posted on 12/15/2009 8:51:39 PM PST by Thommas (The snout of the camel is in the tent..)
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To: Steelfish

Liberals drunk with power.


7 posted on 12/15/2009 8:52:16 PM PST by Rosemont
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To: Pantera
Yes, yes, and yes.

They're trying to finish us off in one quick stroke.
8 posted on 12/15/2009 8:53:40 PM PST by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: Steelfish

Look around your home, see your children peacefully sleeping.

And resolve to call your Congressman tomorrow and tell them that if so much as nod yes in the general direction of this bill they are fired in November—no ifs, ands, or buts.

I made my call today.

It’s your children’s future you are fighting for.


9 posted on 12/15/2009 8:55:44 PM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: Thommas

Yup, me too. Thanks to Jimmuh Cahtah for his obsession with “Undocumented Workers” terminology. He couldn’t stand the term “Illegal Aliens”, so he made sure it was changed.


10 posted on 12/15/2009 8:58:34 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...Call 'em What you Will, They ALL have Fairies Living In Their Trees.)
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this will bankrupt blue states quicker


11 posted on 12/15/2009 9:01:14 PM PST by 4rcane
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To: Pantera; All
Democrats/Marxists want to legalize illegals so that they can create millions of new Democrat voters.

After the elected Democrats/Marxists/liberals ram through government healthcare then Democrats will ram this Amnesty for illegals down the American people's throat.

The Democrats/Marxists know that elected democrats are 60% of the Senate so they know that there is nothing Republicans can do to stop them.

The fix is in . All this “debate” between “moderate” and liberal democrats is all an act. Democrats are all Marxists. All elected Democrats always knew they were going to vote for government healthcare. So they know they will all vote for Amnesty as that guarantees democrats to get tens of millions of new voters, the illegals and their families back in the third world.

Then Democrats/Marxists/liberals will cripple the private sector further with Cap and trade. Also Democrats will silence Rush, Hannity, Levin with the Fairness doctrine, and silence the Internet with Net Neutrality.

They , all elected Democrats/Marxists, know this script.And they know that there is not a thing that Republicans, conservatives, or the American people can do to stop them.

Then the private sector which is the engine of wealth,jobs, high living standards and freedom will be crippled. And the Marxist/communist/Democrat takeover will be complete without firing a shot.

And millions of liberals are cheering this destruction of the golden goose , the private sector, and of America. But it is they, the liberals who will be starving in the street in the new Communist People's Republic of the United States.

Liberals in the media and liberals everywhere, Enjoy your sick "social justice" and few meager scraps you will steal from the productive for now as tomorrow you will starve in the streets and you will be slaves of the government.

12 posted on 12/15/2009 9:02:19 PM PST by Democrat_media (Democrats are the threat , they all voted for socialism on 11/21/09)
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To: Steelfish
Yet another massive piece of $#!+ legislation? As if we didn't already have enough to worry about, with the HealthsCare bill and Cap & Trade! Will this be the last straw, the one that finally makes the average taxpayer lay down his plough and scream
ENOUGH!!!?
13 posted on 12/15/2009 9:05:39 PM PST by giotto
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To: ABQHispConservative

I attended the press conference. McCain’s name was mentioned favorably, but it was said that they disagreed with McCain’s approach but he shared their objective.


14 posted on 12/15/2009 9:08:38 PM PST by kabar
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To: Steelfish

Here we go again !...


15 posted on 12/15/2009 9:09:39 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Steelfish

Democrats think AMNESTY IS THEIR PATHWAY TO REELECTION.

Amnesty and redistricting as per the 2010 census.


16 posted on 12/15/2009 9:10:35 PM PST by onyx
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To: Democrat_media
Democrats/Marxists want to legalize illegals so that they can create millions of new Democrat voters.

I attended the press conference. It was well orchestrated including having about 20 children wearing white tee shirts saying "Future Voter."

17 posted on 12/15/2009 9:10:49 PM PST by kabar
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To: Steelfish
America doesn't want the Health Care Bill.

And America doesn't want this Immigration Demographic Warfare Bill. It is hardly a "reform" bill.

We need border control, not Immigration Demographic warfare.

18 posted on 12/15/2009 9:11:17 PM PST by Candor7 ((The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision , and truth (.Member NRA))
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To: muawiyah
The people targeted in the story are actually illegal entrants into the United States, not immigrants.

Invaders

Invasion

19 posted on 12/15/2009 9:12:48 PM PST by DirtyHarryY2K (The Tree of Liberty is long overdue for its natural manure)
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To: muawiyah

I prefer the term “Alien Invaders” because then we have the Constitutional Justification to, quite bluntly, kill them. {One of the stated purposes of the Army.}


20 posted on 12/15/2009 9:13:47 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
Secure the border and deport the criminals who broke into our country illegally. Only the douchebag politicians need to pass an amnesty bill before they can enforce our laws. It's time to bring back the tar and feathers for the backstabbing traitors in Washington DC.
21 posted on 12/15/2009 9:13:51 PM PST by peeps36 (Democrats Don't Need No Stinking Input From You Little People)
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To: Steelfish

what about the other 20 million?


22 posted on 12/15/2009 9:16:14 PM PST by television is just wrong (one big ass mistake America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: exit82

Uncontrolled “legal” immigration and “anchor-babies” immigration has already changed our nation. This Bill will formally and officially end the US as we know it. Sad. Whoever thought that in less than 12 months those 67% voters aged 19-29 and white single women who (according to Gallup) voted “overwhelmingly’ for Obama would have sent an entire nation hurtling into self-destruction.


23 posted on 12/15/2009 9:18:16 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: Democrat_media; Steelfish; ExTexasRedhead
Democrats/Marxists want to legalize illegals so that they can create millions of new Democrat voters.

Over and over again democrats are being warned that they will NOT be reelected if they vote yes on healthcare.

THIS is the democratic response to that threat.

Democrats have every intention of making absolutely positively sure illegal aliens and likely 3/4 of the population of Mexico become immediate democrat voters. It is NOT being done for compassion - it is self-serving and will be a fatal blow to all Americans (especially the jobless) and to the standard of living our children and grandchildren will be forced to endure.

This will be the fight of our lifetime for the preservation of our nation.

24 posted on 12/15/2009 9:27:11 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: Steelfish

Just for the hell of it I gave Nancy Pelosi a call to ask if she thought it was fair to make taxpayers pay for the education and medical costs of illegal aliens, especially since it was a failure of federal enforcement and administration that allowed illegal aliens to mass in this country, as well as multi-billion dollar document forgery, people smuggling, and identity theft industries to form ... and is it fair to now reward lawbreakers with amnesty, and the failed government with more power and ready made voters?

Her reply? “Are you serious? ARE YOU SERIOUS???”


25 posted on 12/15/2009 10:14:03 PM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: spodefly
Her reply? “Are you serious? ARE YOU SERIOUS???”

Pelosi et al are guilty of plotting to unleash this type of terror upon us:

Declassified report of Insurgent Training Camp in Mexico

Contrary to the belief of some they're all good people just looking for a better life (and the link will show MANY drug apprehensions, not listed here::

USBP Weekly Blotter - December 3- December 9

Snips:

Rio Grande Valley Sector – Border Patrol agents arrested an illegal alien from Honduras near Falfurrias, Texas. Records checks revealed the subject was a Mara Salvatrucha 13 (MS-13) gang member and had been previously removed from the United States.

Tucson Sector – Border Patrol agents arrested an illegal alien from Mexico near Naco, Arizona. Records checks revealed the subject had a prior conviction for lewd or lascivious acts with a child under 14 and had been previously removed from the United States.

Del Rio Sector – Border Patrol agents arrested an illegal alien from Mexico near Carrizo Springs, Texas. During processing, the subject admitted to being a Sureño 13 gang member. Records checks revealed he had an extensive criminal history and had been previously removed from the United States.

Tucson Sector – Border Patrol agents arrested an illegal alien from Mexico near Sells, Arizona. During processing, the subject admitted to being a member of the Sureño gang. Records checks revealed the subject had an extensive criminal history and had been previously removed from the United States.

Tucson Sector – Border Patrol agents arrested an illegal alien from Mexico near Willcox, Arizona. During processing, the subject admitted to being a Latin Kings gang member. Records checks revealed he had an extensive criminal record and an arrest warrant for probation violation in the State of Illinois. The subject had also been previously removed from the United States.

Laredo Sector – Border Patrol agents arrested an illegal alien from Mexico near Laredo, Texas. During processing, the subject admitted to being an MS-13 gang member. Records checks revealed he had been previously removed from the United States.

Swanton Sector – Border Patrol agents arrested an illegal alien from Haiti near Newport Center, Vermont. Records checks revealed the subject had a previous arrest record, was a member of the Top 6 gang, and is a suspected member of the Bloods gang.

Tucson Sector – Border Patrol agents arrested an illegal alien from Honduras near Tombstone, Arizona. During processing, the subject admitted to being an MS-13 gang member. Records checks revealed extensive criminal and immigration histories, to include felony convictions for robbery, theft, and drug sales.

El Paso Sector – Border Patrol agents arrested an illegal alien from Mexico near Fort Hancock, Texas. Records checks revealed the subject had a prior conviction for indecency with a child in the State of Texas and had been previously removed from the United States.

Tucson Sector – A Border Patrol agent and his canine partner were assaulted by an illegal alien from Honduras near Amado, Arizona. The subject, an MS-13 gang member, struck both the agent and his canine in the head with rocks, and absconded. Border Patrol agents searched the area and located the subject, resulting in his arrest.

Laredo Sector – Border Patrol agents seized a small amount of marijuana and a 1991 Oldsmobile, and arrested a USC and an illegal alien from Mexico at the traffic checkpoint near Bruni, Texas. The USC presented himself for inspection and a Border Patrol canine alerted to the vehicle. Records checks revealed the USC had multiple drug convictions and was a member of the Mexican Mafia gang.

San Diego Sector – Border Patrol agents arrested an illegal alien from Honduras near Jamul, California. During processing, the subject admitted to being an MS-13 gang member. Records checks revealed the subject had been previously removed from the United States.

Tucson Sector – Border Patrol agents arrested an illegal alien from Mexico near Eloy, Arizona. Records checks revealed the subject had prior arrests for rape, kidnapping and sodomy with force, and was a registered sex offender in the State of California. The subject had also been previously removed from the United States.

Tucson Sector – Border Patrol agents arrested an illegal alien from Mexico near Nogales, Arizona. Records checks revealed the subject had a prior conviction for gross vehicle manslaughter while intoxicated in the State of California, and had been previously removed from the United States.

26 posted on 12/15/2009 10:36:23 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


27 posted on 12/15/2009 10:54:05 PM PST by gubamyster
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To: Steelfish

bttt


28 posted on 12/15/2009 11:30:23 PM PST by bluray
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To: ABQHispConservative
or will he once again try to play a conservative and go against it

What in God's name are you talking about?

Do you recall McCain-Kennedy, the Amnesty Bill of May 2007?

When we literally burned down the phone lines to the Senate?

When McNutcase's "popularity" plummeted? ( I don't know anyone who likes him, so I'm not sure what "popularity" means in this context)

As far as the election in Arizona, he's about out of that dance finally, now that everyone sees him for the fraud that he is.

29 posted on 12/16/2009 4:04:28 AM PST by Regulator (Welcome to Zimbabwe! Now hand over your property....)
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To: kabar
I attended the press conference. It was well orchestrated including having about 20 children wearing white tee shirts saying "Future Voter."

Was that a press conference held here in Los Angeles? I'm asking because I'm wondering how they were able to use a school bus.

From the article: In Los Angeles, immigration activists hailed the measure at a news conference before heading to local lawmakers' offices -- aboard a yellow school bus festooned with banners -- to urge their support.

30 posted on 12/16/2009 6:29:15 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: DumpsterDiver

No, the press conference was held in the Rayburn building in DC.


31 posted on 12/16/2009 6:36:17 AM PST by kabar
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To: kabar
No, the press conference was held in the Rayburn building in DC.

Thanks. Since I'm here in L.A. I'm going to try and see if I can find out how one gets to use school buses for protest activities.

32 posted on 12/16/2009 6:53:43 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
Go to The social contract.com by James Walsh,I'm tired of documenting this over and over and over.

In 2005 the number was 38 million, 36 million illegals plus 2 million visa overstays. Who knows what the number is now.

Walsh is a former scholar and Federal prosecutor. He knows the immigration stats inside out and has done his homework. He is the real deal that's why no one ever talks about him.

33 posted on 12/16/2009 8:01:56 AM PST by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: Pantera

Are they trying to pass the trifecta of Health Care, Cap and Trade and Amnesty all in the same week before the end of the year? Just wondering.”

Yes and is there REALLY any way to stop them?


34 posted on 12/16/2009 9:05:23 AM PST by Kimberly GG (Join Me In BOYCOTTING all ObamaTV!! (Change the channel or do so and then turn tv off!!))
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To: Steelfish

But LaRaza likes it!

Comprehensive Immigration Reform: Gutierrez Challenges the Harmful Status Quo
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/clarissa-martinez-de-castro/comprehensive-immigration_b_392621.html


35 posted on 12/16/2009 9:47:27 AM PST by AuntB (If Al Qaeda grew drugs & burned our forests instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: gubamyster; MamaDearest; All
Props to you Mama for finding this:

Keep the Change

We should make this FR's Signature tune! Please share with as many as you can?!

36 posted on 12/16/2009 5:26:31 PM PST by JustPiper (You think about revolution...Well...)
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To: muawiyah
The definition of immigrant is merely a person who moves from one place to settle in another. Your definition is retsrictive and you have arbitrailly used it to support your point.

What more do you have to say? They are here against the laws of the US. That makes them illegal immigrant or aliens for that matter. What else do you need?

37 posted on 12/16/2009 5:33:49 PM PST by votemout
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To: votemout
I want to keep the discussion within the bounds of the laws. Most people who visit America are called tourists. It makes no sense whatsoever to refer to those who come here without legal permission "immigrants".

I prefer calling them "tourists without visas".

38 posted on 12/16/2009 5:37:38 PM PST by muawiyah (Git Out The Way)
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To: muawiyah

I want words to have a meaning and not have people make up and limit definitions. That’s a propaganda technique.


39 posted on 12/16/2009 5:39:16 PM PST by votemout
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To: muawiyah

I prefer calling them what they are: illegal aliens.


40 posted on 12/16/2009 5:42:11 PM PST by Czar (NRA Life Member)
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To: votemout

Using the term “immigrant” is so final. Referring to these pukes as “tourists” clearly denotes that they ought to go back home!


41 posted on 12/16/2009 5:52:01 PM PST by muawiyah (Git Out The Way)
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