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Penn State scientist in hot seat over global warming e-mails (professor distorted facts)
The Morning Call ^ | 11/25/09 | Frank Warner

Posted on 11/25/2009 6:19:48 PM PST by Libloather

Penn State scientist in hot seat over global warming e-mails
Global-warming skeptics say leaked messages show professor distorted facts.
By Frank Warner
Of The Morning Call
November 25, 2009

A Penn State University science professor is at the center of the firestorm over an anonymous hacker's release of more than 1,000 once-private e-mails sent by global warming scientists.

Michael E. Mann, director of Penn State's Earth System Science Center, is marked as author, recipient or subject of several of the e-mails, which skeptics say are proof that Mann and others have been distorting data to make the case for global warming.

Mann has denied any manipulation of facts, but skeptics are pointing to one e-mail in particular as evidence that he and others have engaged in a statistical deception to hide drops in global temperatures and exaggerate warming trends.

According to the Nov. 16, 1999, e-mail, scientist Phil Jones wrote to Mann and two other scientists to say: ''I've just completed Mike [Mann]'s Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) and from 1961 for Keith's to hide the decline.''

Jones is director of the Climate Research Unit at the University of East Anglia in Britain, the origin of the e-mail records released Thursday. ''Keith'' is Keith Briffa, another professor at the Climate Research Unit.

Explaining the ''Nature trick'' reference in the e-mail, Mann told the Wired.com blog the ''trick'' was simply a solution to the problem of displaying temperature data in a way that makes the information easier to understand.

The Morning Call could not reach Mann on Tuesday for further comment.

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KEYWORDS: climategate; emails; globalwarming; hadleycru; pennstate; scientist
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(professor distorted facts)

He had to - that kicked the fraud down the road.

1 posted on 11/25/2009 6:19:49 PM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather; Nervous Tick; 4horses+amule; Desdemona; Fractal Trader; grey_whiskers; markomalley; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

2 posted on 11/25/2009 6:22:23 PM PST by steelyourfaith (Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
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To: Libloather

Why do they think they’ll never get caught?
How embarrassing. LOL


3 posted on 11/25/2009 6:22:38 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS... taxes, pain and slow death. Is this what you want?)
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To: Libloather
S-mores
4 posted on 11/25/2009 6:23:37 PM PST by blueyon (It is worth taking a stand even if you are standing alone!)
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To: Libloather

WOW well lets just be happy that we ended this hoax while it is still in its infancy... Fake global warming ponzi scheme damage is still in the Billions.....

Oh wait our idiot President is about to go to Denmark and commit the USA to spending trillions to stop something that doesnt exist.

Wasting taxpayer money like this should be an impeachable offense and I would call for a congressional investigation into Al Gore’s religion and the Hundreds of millions he has made in profit from this.

How do the liberals square this they rail at corporate America and yet Al Gore is their savior I just don’t get it.


5 posted on 11/25/2009 6:25:58 PM PST by Typical_Whitey (Eric Holder and Obama are making a mockery of our justice system.)
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To: Libloather

>> Explaining the ‘’Nature trick’’ reference in the e-mail, Mann told the Wired.com blog the ‘’trick’’ was simply a solution to the problem of displaying temperature data in a way that makes the information easier to understand.

That’s cool. I understand, Mike. And I’m sure you’ll be releasing all of the code and raw data so that an impartial observer can replicate 100% of your calculations, start to finish. Then we’ll see for themselves that what you’re claiming is true.

Oh wait. No, you won’t! You’ve been asked many times to do just that, and each time, you have refused.


6 posted on 11/25/2009 6:28:02 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: Owl_Eagle; brityank; Physicist; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; GOPJ; abner; baseballmom; Mo1; Ciexyz; ...

ping


7 posted on 11/25/2009 6:28:46 PM PST by Tribune7 (God bless Carrie Prejean)
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To: TribalPrincess2U
Why do they think they’ll never get caught?

No, I think they thought that they would have had CO2 cam-and-trade in place by now through the Kyoto Treaty, and then they could reveal the global temprature drop as a "see, I told you so" moment.

8 posted on 11/25/2009 6:30:23 PM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: Libloather
Explaining the ''Nature trick'' reference in the e-mail, Mann told the Wired.com blog the ''trick'' was simply a solution to the problem of displaying temperature data in a way that makes the information easier to understand.

Notice how Mann "explains" the word "trick" but ignores explaining how "hiding" means anything but it's plain meaning.

9 posted on 11/25/2009 6:30:52 PM PST by torchthemummy (No Obama: Not Because He's Black But Because He's Red)
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To: TribalPrincess2U
... cam-and-trade ...

Er, cap-and-trade.

10 posted on 11/25/2009 6:32:03 PM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: Libloather

Total crap defense. The key words in the sentence are “...to hide the decline.” If you’re trying to hide something, then you can’t possible be engaged in science.


11 posted on 11/25/2009 6:32:36 PM PST by sand lake bar (Obama: Take away my 1st Amendment and you'll force me to use the 2nd.)
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To: Libloather
Then been trying to spin how they used the term “trick” ... but per the sentence the term “trick”is in; the purpose of the “trick” was to “to hide the decline”
12 posted on 11/25/2009 6:32:39 PM PST by tophat9000 (Obama plans to fix America like he fixed his dog)
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To: Nervous Tick

Wasn’t Mann after a better chair somewhere else, perhaps University of Virginia?


13 posted on 11/25/2009 6:35:27 PM PST by muawiyah (Git Out The Way)
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To: Libloather

I’m getting tired of hearing these fraudsters called “Scientists.”

Scientists don’t cook their data.


14 posted on 11/25/2009 6:36:37 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: Libloather

Mann will use the Ward Churchill defense (offensive defense) and hang on. The enviro-religion will not allow one of their priests to be defrocked, imo.


15 posted on 11/25/2009 6:39:00 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Libloather

Michael E. “Con” Mann, director of Penn State’s Earth System Science Center.


16 posted on 11/25/2009 6:40:15 PM PST by fhayek (Off course its sarcasm)
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To: Libloather
Besides being guilty of excessive data torture, uu@W is guilty of a serious breach of ethics involving perverting the sacred peerreviewedliterature.

His JibJab hit "Hide the Decline" will certainly enhance his CV publications list.

17 posted on 11/25/2009 6:49:32 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: muawiyah

>> Wasn’t Mann after a better chair somewhere else, perhaps University of Virginia?

I searched, but didn’t find anything concrete on this.

However, searching on Michael Man yields a heckuva lot of interesting material.

My guess is, even if the CRU leak hadn’t happened, these paleoclimatology pseudo-scientists (the “gang of 52” or whatever) were pretty close to being brought down, science-wise. A lot of their arguments are quite thin, and the wolves were at the door. Have been for some time, in fact...

But getting the word out is another problem entirely; we can thank the CRU leaker for putting muscular legs on the story, and speeding it along.


18 posted on 11/25/2009 6:53:57 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: Paladin2

This Ward LeRoy Churchillite is Czar material.


19 posted on 11/25/2009 6:54:00 PM PST by yorkie01
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To: Paladin2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwblVWx_X18


20 posted on 11/25/2009 6:54:34 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: yorkie01

On an academic fraud basis, uu@W is nowhere near as bad as Churchill. On an absolute scale as a defrauder of the People, he is orders of magnitude worse.


21 posted on 11/25/2009 6:58:15 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Libloather

I wonder if these RAT “professors” could be subject to lawsuits for failing to teach the plaintiff’s children what they were supposed to, while stealing their money?


22 posted on 11/25/2009 7:00:40 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs, nothing more than bald haired hippies.)
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To: Paladin2

Mikey’s email address


23 posted on 11/25/2009 7:01:34 PM PST by DAC21
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To: DAC21

mem45@psu.edu


24 posted on 11/25/2009 7:02:08 PM PST by DAC21
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To: Zuben Elgenubi
Mann will use the Ward Churchill defense (offensive defense) and hang on. The enviro-religion will not allow one of their priests to be defrocked, imo.

I'm afraid you're right.

This is not going to be a knockout blow. It's not even going to slow down the train. I wish it wasn't true, but it's wishful thinkng to believe that these e-mails are going to bring the AGW movement to it's knees.

They are, however, part of a cumulative process that will eventually cause the balloon to pop. Things are going to have to get a lot worse than they are now, though. I wish it were otherwise, believe me.

25 posted on 11/25/2009 7:05:39 PM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: Libloather
Explaining the ''Nature trick'' reference in the e-mail, Mann told the Wired.com blog the ''trick'' was simply a solution to the problem of displaying temperature data in a way that makes the information easier to understand.

The "trick" wouldn't be at all necessary if we'd just "understand" and get in line for massive tax hikes and government control over every facet of our lives.
/S

26 posted on 11/25/2009 7:08:36 PM PST by RJL
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To: Nervous Tick
That’s cool. I understand, Mike. And I’m sure you’ll be releasing all of the code and raw data so that an impartial observer can replicate 100% of your calculations, start to finish. Then we’ll see for themselves that what you’re claiming is true.

Oh wait. No, you won’t! You’ve been asked many times to do just that, and each time, you have refused.

"Scientists" who refuse to conform to the scientific method, while left-wingers use their "science" to plunder TRILLIONS. Still not a peep from ABC, CBS, NBC. When will this nightmare end?

27 posted on 11/25/2009 7:09:08 PM PST by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: Libloather

Will Penn State take steps to fire this guy for academic fraud? Doubt it.


28 posted on 11/25/2009 7:16:49 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: muawiyah

Mann was at UVA until 2005, as was Pat Michaels, global warming skeptic and former state climatologist of Virginia (before being forced to step down by Gov. Kaine two years ago). On a local Richmond radio station this morning Michaels was interviewed and said he thought an investigation at the state level was more likely than by congress. BTW, Bob McDonnell was just elected governor and Ken Cuccinelli is the new Attorney General. This could get interesting. The only problem is that global warming was not a campaign issue and folks would be ticked if McDonnell turned his attention to it with jobs, the economy, and transportation all needing immediate attention.


29 posted on 11/25/2009 7:19:53 PM PST by vamoose
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To: word_warrior_bob
Someone was babbling about NASA be sued because they would not release their data on climate change. Wonder if NASA was involved in the data “Trick” thing?
30 posted on 11/25/2009 7:24:54 PM PST by ANGGAPO (Leyte Gulf Beach Club)
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To: Libloather

geeze..first the hockey stick that isn’t now this...and the left will still worship at mann’s altar.


31 posted on 11/25/2009 7:27:17 PM PST by stylin19a
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To: vamoose
Fraud in the AGW and GW business is definitely a JOBS issue. If Obama shuts down coal production and use in Virginia, we'll have unemployment rates higher than during the Great Depression.

I don't think anyone but the Leftwingtards would be disturbed by the Commonwealth investigating Mann and how he and Kaine hornswaggled Michaels.

If we can have some promises regarding the use of waterboarding, I'll be happy to volunteer to assist McDonnell interrogating Mann and any of his cronies we can catch.

32 posted on 11/25/2009 7:30:34 PM PST by muawiyah (Git Out The Way)
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To: vamoose
One...just one high profile lynching of one of these Al Gore disciples could turn this whole bogus climate change one world order cult into a domino chain of collapse
33 posted on 11/25/2009 7:31:23 PM PST by DAC21
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To: ANGGAPO
"NASA" is the codeword for Hansen. They are the agency that's the source for a lot of the money wasted contemplating tree ring cores to see what the temperature was.

So, yeah, Hansen and Hansen's cronies at NASA had some responsibility to monitor the contractor's use of NASA funds.

There are some people in the federal government who are really in trouble today ~ and I mean really, really, really in trouble.

I've seen people go to prison for 20 years for messing with a furniture acquisition contract (to buy cubicles) in the same way.

This probably reaches into the current White House staff, and certainly into EPA offices over the last 2 decades.

Watergate was nothing!

34 posted on 11/25/2009 7:34:49 PM PST by muawiyah (Git Out The Way)
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To: kaehurowing
No doubt they hired him on "with tenure" so academic fraud is about the only reason they could fire him.

I suspect he will get fired because someone else who is NOT involved is already cozying up to the deans at Penn State getting their attention to the fact that "I am not involved".

35 posted on 11/25/2009 7:36:39 PM PST by muawiyah (Git Out The Way)
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To: DAC21
Ask the Penn St, President what he thinks

president@psu.edu

Pile on YOU CAN make a difference~

36 posted on 11/25/2009 7:36:56 PM PST by DAC21
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To: ANGGAPO

Perhaps we’ll have some more whistle blowers now that the hacker has given us a GLIMPSE of what’s been going on.

Just the fact that these scientists have been pissing all over the scientific method should get more people on the “It’s a Fraud” bandwagon.

To these “Scientists” peer reviewed means MY PEERS IN ON THE SCAM, that’s not how it’s supposed to work.

Their hands are caught in the cookie jar, they took all the cookies, ate them and smashed the cookie jar. Even some lefties are leaving the cult. Now we’ve got Obama going to Copenhagen and the networks REFUSE to report this story, we are NO DIFFERENT than the old Soviet Union as far as the networks go.

The Commies are just pretending it didn’t happen, and if you don’t watch Fox News or scour the internet, it didn’t happen, it’s actually scary when you think about it. They’re ready to sell this country out on a SCAM. They wonder why we call them commies, this is why.


37 posted on 11/25/2009 7:38:45 PM PST by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: fhayek

” director of Penn State’s Earth System Science Center.”

It really torques me that this puke fraud is on the PSU Faculty. I wonder what straight arrow guys like JoePa and others at PSU think about this scumbag; and whether they are making any efforts on campus to expose and remove him. Does he have tenure?


38 posted on 11/25/2009 7:39:24 PM PST by Tucker39 (I Tim. 1:15b " .....Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am chief.")
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To: DAC21

No it’s upside down Mann, for his use of a proxy upside down when the physics of the proxy indicated that it should be right side up. Uu@w needed to invert it to make it look like the temperatures were going up - hence uu@W.


39 posted on 11/25/2009 7:41:41 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: DAC21

http://www.pcc.org.uk/case/resolved.html?article=NTk1Mw==


40 posted on 11/25/2009 7:42:21 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Libloather

If the university had any academic integrity this professor should be fired.


41 posted on 11/25/2009 7:42:57 PM PST by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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To: Libloather
Mann is a despicable fraud and con artist.

With vast billions of dollars utterly wasted/destroyed because of his fakery, he needs a perp walk to long term prison.


42 posted on 11/25/2009 7:43:50 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (Socialism is an opportunistic infection of the body politic. It occurs when defenses are low.)
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To: word_warrior_bob
What is needed is a mass emailing address to Penn St. Students The Faculty is 100% Stepford Wife gone.. The Students might have not have had the life sucked out of them yet to the point they can't raise hell.
43 posted on 11/25/2009 7:43:58 PM PST by DAC21
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To: FormerACLUmember

He the poster child for the words “Failure and Fraud” This POS probably couldn’t bag Groceries.


44 posted on 11/25/2009 7:46:38 PM PST by DAC21
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To: DAC21

Hello DAC21:
Thank you for your suggestion. I just sent an email to Spanier with the following message:

Dear Sir

It has become very clear that a Professor Mann at PSU has been complicit for many years in perpetrating and furthering the hoax of anthropogenic climate change; refusing to furnish data for other scientists’ perusal and testing; cooking data to produce fraudulent outcomes which promote/advance the hoax; collusion with other scientists to hide contrary data and exaggerate partiallly-corroborative data; etc; etc.

As the father and uncle of PSU grads, and as the uncle of a Junior student now on campus at Happy Valley, anything which tends to besmirch the reputation of Penn State University grinds me severely; as I can iron-clad guarantee you, it also does to THOUSANDS of PSU Alumni! I can only presume and hope that it affects you in the same manner.

Therefore, what are YOU doing; what action have YOU initiated; what investigation have YOU started in this matter that will expose Professor Mann, remove him from any position remotely associated with TRUE SCIENCE; and dismiss him from Penn State University? The reputation of a once sterling university is hanging by a thread here! Is this once-proud institution to become a laughing stock in scientific circles? What will YOU do to remove the cause of this scandal and restore the integrity of Penn State University?

Very concerned,

Thomas Sechrist


45 posted on 11/25/2009 8:06:37 PM PST by Tucker39 (I Tim. 1:15b " .....Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am chief.")
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To: word_warrior_bob

“When will this nightmare end?”

Possibilities:

1) When the guilty own up to their actions.
2) When prosecution results in convictions.
3) Congressional investigation.
4) American Revolution II.

I make no predictions as to which is right. ;-)


46 posted on 11/25/2009 8:22:02 PM PST by PreciousLiberty
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To: Paladin2

Thanks for posting that link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwblVWx_X18

That is a funny video. Hope it makes the rounds.


47 posted on 11/25/2009 8:43:57 PM PST by Rocky (Obama's ego: The "I's" have it.)
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To: Paladin2

Funny, good, and well done for so little time.


48 posted on 11/25/2009 8:46:06 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Hypocrisy: "Animal rightists" who eat meat & pen up pets while accusing hog farmers of cruelty.)
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To: Typical_Whitey

where is kenneth starr anyway???


49 posted on 11/25/2009 8:57:56 PM PST by annelizly
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To: Libloather
''I've just completed Mike [Mann]'s Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) and from 1961 for Keith's to hide the decline.''

Explaining the ''Nature trick'' reference in the e-mail, Mann told the Wired.com blog the ''trick'' was simply a solution to the problem of displaying temperature data in a way that makes the information easier to understand.

Uh-huh... And about that "to hide the decline" part...?
Mann is a liar and a fraud. Penn State should fire that taxpayer-funded leech's rear-end like yesterday.

50 posted on 11/25/2009 9:06:28 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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