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Confirmed : Dobbs could tip election to Obama in a three-way race
Hot Air ^ | November 24, 2009 | ALLAHPUNDIT

Posted on 11/25/2009 4:08:30 PM PST by RobinMasters

Not a huge deal since, according to his spokesman, he’s more inclined to challenge Menendez for New Jersey’s Senate seat in 2012 than run for prez, but it’s still worth flagging given the running debate we’ve been having about third parties. Just think of me as Groundskeeper Willie. I warned ye. Didn’t I warn ye?

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey shows that if the choice is between President Obama, former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney and Dobbs, Obama leads 42% to 34% with Dobbs pulling 14% of the vote.

With Mike Huckabee as the Republican nominee, Obama leads 42% to 36%, with Dobbs at 12%.

If Sarah Palin is the GOP nominee, it’s Obama 44%, Palin 37% and Dobbs 12%…

With Dobbs out of the equation, Obama and Romney are tied at 44%, Obama leads Huckabee 45% to 41%, and the president leads Palin 46% to 43%.

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1 posted on 11/25/2009 4:08:30 PM PST by RobinMasters
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To: ExTexasRedhead; justiceseeker93; traderrob6; OL Hickory; socialismisinsidious; trlambsr; Altera; ...

Ping.


2 posted on 11/25/2009 4:08:58 PM PST by RobinMasters
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To: RobinMasters

Which reminds me, gotta write Ross Perot a thank-you note for giving us Bill Clinton. Be right back.


3 posted on 11/25/2009 4:10:27 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast (Obama: running for re-election in '12 or running for Mahdi now? [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahdi])
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To: RobinMasters
So........he wants Hussein to be re-elected?
4 posted on 11/25/2009 4:11:00 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: RobinMasters

Statistically insignificant differences between the R’s.


5 posted on 11/25/2009 4:11:35 PM PST by ez ("Abashed the Devil stood and felt how awful goodness is..." - Milton)
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To: RobinMasters

NO Dobbs, NO Romney, NO Huckabee and NO Obama!


6 posted on 11/25/2009 4:12:39 PM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: RobinMasters

Third post still the same numbers, whens the up date.


7 posted on 11/25/2009 4:12:43 PM PST by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: RobinMasters

These people keep throwing in Romney and Huckabee. I refuse to vote for either.

I will vote for anybody else except Obama.


8 posted on 11/25/2009 4:13:00 PM PST by Venturer
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To: RobinMasters

I doubt he would run for president.

I think the Republican nominee will be someone other than Romney, Huck or Palin...and I think 2012 will be the political end of the line for Dear Reader. Think Carter.


9 posted on 11/25/2009 4:13:01 PM PST by Tulane
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To: RobinMasters
The idea of a split vote in ‘012 scares the hell out of me.
10 posted on 11/25/2009 4:15:17 PM PST by ryan71 (Smells like a revolution)
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To: RobinMasters

Here’s the solution: DON’T RUN ANOTHER FRIGGING RINO.


11 posted on 11/25/2009 4:15:41 PM PST by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A SOCIALIST WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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To: RobinMasters

lou is anti-palin. Thats enough for me to throw him in the junk pile


12 posted on 11/25/2009 4:16:15 PM PST by 4rcane
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To: Tulane

I have the feeling that the GOP nominee (and ultimate victor) will come from the ranks of the young, conservative GOP congressment.


13 posted on 11/25/2009 4:16:43 PM PST by Salvey
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To: Salvey

congressment = congressmen


14 posted on 11/25/2009 4:17:25 PM PST by Salvey
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To: BenLurkin

I think its more likely he will run for Senate. He’s positioning against this opponent. To be honest, he’s coming across as a very dishonest politican who will admend position just to get elected


15 posted on 11/25/2009 4:17:36 PM PST by 4rcane
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To: RobinMasters

I’m sure Dobbs won’t run for president. The senate would be fine.


16 posted on 11/25/2009 4:17:59 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: RobinMasters
Does Dobbs have any experience other than radio/TV???

Has he managed a company, lead a military unit, etc???

17 posted on 11/25/2009 4:19:59 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
Which reminds me, gotta write Ross Perot a thank-you note for giving us Bill Clinton. Be right back.

You are so right. I personally know conservatives who voted for Perot, including my own brothers.

18 posted on 11/25/2009 4:20:03 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: RobinMasters

He’s not going to run for President; he knows he wouldn’t win as a 3rd party candidate, so there’s no gain in it.


19 posted on 11/25/2009 4:20:13 PM PST by ScottinVA (The arrogance of this Congress is staggering. November 2010 can't get here quickly enough.)
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To: RobinMasters
Romney has NO chance.


20 posted on 11/25/2009 4:20:25 PM PST by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: RobinMasters

IF Dobbs were to run as an Indy, I’d suspect he was somehow put up to it by an Axelrod or Rahm type of guy.


21 posted on 11/25/2009 4:20:33 PM PST by C210N (A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have)
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To: RobinMasters
Does Dobbs have any experience other than radio/TV???

Has he managed a company, lead a military unit, etc???

22 posted on 11/25/2009 4:21:07 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: RobinMasters
Sorry but I ain't buying this poll. My prediction is Osama will be so disliked by 2012 anyone can beat him. Lou Dobbs will probably take away some secure the borders one issue voters but providing the Republicans don't put up a RINO they should win. I'll be pulling for Sarah. I don't see any other candidate that comes closer to my views.
23 posted on 11/25/2009 4:21:15 PM PST by McGruff (We're Going Rogue Baby!)
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To: RobinMasters
Too bad for America the racists in this county vote as a block.

24 posted on 11/25/2009 4:21:38 PM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: Salvey

Someone like say Michelle Bachman.


25 posted on 11/25/2009 4:23:04 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: McGruff

I’m thinking that Hillary is going to beat Obama in the primary.

I wonder what the poll numbers are for Hillary versus the leading republicans.


26 posted on 11/25/2009 4:24:51 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: BenLurkin; Clemenza; rmlew
So........he wants Hussein to be re-elected?

I doubt it. I've been getting some emails over the last several days that he's interested in either running for Senate or President. Polls like this would probably cause him to decide to run for Senate.

27 posted on 11/25/2009 4:28:08 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

Please lets nudge Lou into a race for the Senate—We could use him there. If there is to be a 3rd party they should stick to races for congress and Senate. BUT, if the RINO/GOP dismisses Sarah P. and she should go 3rd Party—I will go with her! She isn’t Ross Perot (But he had some good ideas) and she could lead a vital 3rd Party program. Lots of time before 2012.


28 posted on 11/25/2009 4:29:18 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: RobinMasters

Interesting how Sarah only trains Obama by 3 percent. I remember not too long ago when she trailed him by as much as 15 points. She has narrowed the gap


29 posted on 11/25/2009 4:29:29 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: 4rcane
lou is anti-palin

Now we know the 'real reason' he was let loose from CNN! To get ready to campaign. Watch how money will start rolling in for him from the left.
30 posted on 11/25/2009 4:33:46 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: RobinMasters
Who the hell are they taking about? Bob Dobbs?


31 posted on 11/25/2009 4:33:58 PM PST by fhayek
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To: ez
Statistically insignificant differences between the R’s.

What is significant is the fact that Sarah Palin is only 3% points behind Obama despite a 24hr 7 day a week attacks by the media for 15 months. If she is this high, they have every reason to fear her.

32 posted on 11/25/2009 4:34:19 PM PST by cpdiii (roughneck, oilfield trash and proud of it, geologist, pilot, pharmacist, iconoclast.)
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To: Reagan Man
NO Dobbs, NO Romney, NO Huckabee and NO Obama!

We should know soon, after all we are down to only 3 years of campaigning to go...

33 posted on 11/25/2009 4:34:30 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

The Perot fiasco was an interesting phenomenon. I see it as the first significant upheaval of conservatism against RINOism.

It was a harbinger of our exasperation, showing how hungry many people are for change. Much like support for Hoffman in NY-23.

Too bad RNC et.al. never got the message. Give us a true candidate and the passion is there. Go Palin!!!

It’s iffy if Palin will actually run as early as 2012, but she could do wonders as THE party leader. Steele is not too bad, but just think how Palin would kick some a$$!!!


34 posted on 11/25/2009 4:35:30 PM PST by pyrless (If you're gonna burn our flag, make sure you wrap yourself in it first!)
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To: RobinMasters
I have forgotten a lot of the "out there" things that Mister Dobbs has said over the years, but he seems like severely damaged goods to me.

. One of my biggest worries about the 2012 presidential election will be that the Dems are likely to clandestinely field a fifth-column candidate (masquerading perhaps even to the RIGHT of the GOPer), and do a ross perot on us; or will give covert support to a third party candidate who just wants to see himself in the papers (sort of like an arsonist). Could Mister Dobbs might be just such a person?

This third party stuff is pure poison, and it is why I have no kind feelings (and will never, ever forgive) Mister Buchanan for his egomanic run in 2000.)

.

35 posted on 11/25/2009 4:36:23 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: McGruff
Lou Dobbs will probably take away some secure the borders one issue voters

He won't get their vote, he turned a 180. He's now going after the Spanish vote.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2394581/posts
36 posted on 11/25/2009 4:38:24 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: RobinMasters

Palin, Palin, Palin... nobody but Palin. ( I wanted to say “Palin or Bust”, but I wasn’t sure how that would sound)


37 posted on 11/25/2009 4:39:32 PM PST by Gator113 (Obama is Americas First Failed Black Pres-dent.....)
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To: Gator113
Palin or Bust

Why not both?

38 posted on 11/25/2009 4:44:16 PM PST by fhayek
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To: fhayek

;>)


39 posted on 11/25/2009 4:45:57 PM PST by Gator113 (Obama is Americas First Failed Black Pres-dent.....)
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
Which reminds me, gotta write Ross Perot a thank-you note for giving us Bill Clinton. Be right back.

I like to play the what if game on that. What if Perot doesn't run, and Bush is re-elected in 92. Who wins in 96?

Things change of course, but Dole still may have been the R nominee. Who would have been the D nominee? Ds don't seem to favor loser candidates, so Clinton might have been out in 96, so maybe Gore? Both Gore and Dole would put Sominex out of business, but I think Gore wins that. Then does Gore win re-election in '00? Depends how bad he screwed up the country, though the power of incumbency is worth a lot. So who wins in 04?

I guess you can go on and on. Everything changes with a different president, different policies that please or anger the elctorate. Heck, if Bush had won in 92, I don't think the Rs would have taken over the House in 94. A lot of good came out of that.

40 posted on 11/25/2009 4:46:18 PM PST by Pappy Smear (Support the presidency, end the policies.)
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To: cpdiii

By the time the book tour is over, she should be much better off than she is even now. Many women will support her if they decide she was “trashed” last time around.


41 posted on 11/25/2009 4:54:00 PM PST by ez ("Abashed the Devil stood and felt how awful goodness is..." - Milton)
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To: Tulane
Think Carter.

Gawd...only after taking a pill!

42 posted on 11/25/2009 4:54:55 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: RobinMasters

Awhile back I read that several states were considering enacting a law that would require all canidates to show proof of natural’’ born status to get on that states’ ballot. If 0’b continues to stall, what then??


43 posted on 11/25/2009 4:55:41 PM PST by Waco (Stay as bootiful as ya are Karvile.)
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To: C210N
IF Dobbs were to run as an Indy, I’d suspect he was somehow put up to it by an Axelrod or Rahm type of guy.

I've been pushing this theory on FR for months.

Baraq is locked in with a 40% vote no matter what happens.

Watch the Soros money working to facilitate a split of the remaining 60% of the vote.

44 posted on 11/25/2009 4:57:34 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: RobinMasters

theres only one that will do—go sarah


45 posted on 11/25/2009 4:59:40 PM PST by chicken head
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

I hate to say it....but i voted for Ross...My first protest vote


46 posted on 11/25/2009 5:18:55 PM PST by M-cubed
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To: Gator113

Palin or Bust. We don’t want another Bush type leader in office. We want a reformer who will go in and actually balance the budget!


47 posted on 11/25/2009 5:24:46 PM PST by 4rcane
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

Silly, speculative polls three years out. Better concentrate on 2010.


48 posted on 11/25/2009 5:27:52 PM PST by mono
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To: RobinMasters

It’s how Clinton won. I hope Dobbs has more class than Perot.


49 posted on 11/25/2009 5:28:10 PM PST by pallis
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To: Tulane
Think Carter.

We should all remember that 1980 was a three way race.

When Reagan defeated George HW Bush and John Anderson in the primaries, John Anderson (liberal R congressman IL) went 3rd party and ran as an independent. His effective intent was to give a candidate for liberal Republicans to vote for in hopes of derailing Reagan.

I had hoped Reagan would have chosen to run with Jack Kemp or even Phil Crane (also ran but faded early in the primary race in 1980. Conservative Congressman also from IL), but I think Reagn's choice of Bush was in part to derail Anderson's attempt with a "moderate" (Rockefeller wing) running mate.

50 posted on 11/25/2009 6:16:42 PM PST by Agamemnon (Intelligent Design is to evolution what the Swift Boat Vets were to the Kerry campaign)
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