Posted on 11/24/2009 9:33:46 PM PST by smoothsailing
Jillian Bandes
Wednesday, November 25, 2009
Who might be the next victim of Obamacare? Gun owners.
Government health care reform "will most likely dump your gun-related health data into a government database…that can preclude you from owning firearms,” said Gun Owners of America, in an email notification to their members, shortly before the health care debate on Saturday. GOA said that diagnoses such as post-traumatic stress disorders or other mental illnesses could be a reason the government uses to charge you more for health insurance under the public plan, or as part of co-op regulations.
Larry Pratt, executive director of GOA, said the chances of Uncle Sam using his power to regulate health care based on gun ownership was even better because Kathleen Sebelius is the head of the Department of Health and Human Services, the agency that would be in charge of specific health care regulations and their enforcement. Sebelius has a long anti-gun history, responsible for vetoes of concealed carry bills in Kansas.
“Gun owners are likely to be in there with fat people,” said Pratt.
It wouldn’t be the first time gun ownership has been tied to health regulation. GOA claims that over 150,000 vets with post-traumatic stress disorder are currently on a list that prohibits gun purchases. But Obamacare would expand government health care to millions of additional Americans.
Calls to Sebelius’ office were not returned, though a member of her press office laughed out loud when questioned about the prospect of health care being tied to gun ownership, saying, “that’s crazy.”
But Michael Cannon, director of health policy studies at the Cato Institute, said such regulations were quite possible. The problem stems from government’s overriding cost-benefit assessments and their take on health issues.
“This legislation will politicize anything that has to do with health and health insurance claims,” he said. “The anti-gun lobby has, for decades now, tried to paint firearms owners as unsafe. It will only be a matter of time before they start making that argument in the new forum of health insurance.”
The Center for Disease Control has been one of the government agencies pushing gun ownership as hazardous to one’s health, and Pratt, and the National Institute for Health is catching on.
“They would be required to evaluate the compulsory health mandates that are contained within this legislation,” said Pratt. “That could make life uncomfortable for people.”
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We need to throw the liberals in jail when this is finished.
“That could make life uncomfortable for people.”
No doubt the people would make life impossible
for them...
I saw this from a mile away.
This will be the final straw.
or at the very least, unlikely...
Would any forward thinking adult think this will only stop with guns? Democrats will have all the medical information of every single one of their opponenents from now on. That government Rat who came out about Joe the Plumber’s tax information comes to mind right now. And then there’s Ryan’s divorce records that came out when he ran against Obama for the Illinois senate...
Obama’s Mengel/DeathCare is intended to destroy our country and destroy (via denying care) as many Americans as possible. Sound like Hitler and Nazi Germany to you? Welcome to the New Liberal Order of Hussein Obama, Pelosi, Reid, et al. Yes, IMO, they’re out to destroy our freedom and our country. Taking away guns and everything else including our lives.
Is there some reason that 30-70 million patriots are not marching on Washington, DC right this moment?!
Yeah, this was inevitable. And remember, the govt will have electronic access to your bank accounts. You didn’t think they were going to ASK you for a monthly health care plan check did you? The statists have been chomping at the bit to go data mining on citizens, and this is the perfect vehicle.
You know there is, and you know what that reason is.
Fear.
Most, do not want to A) Go to jail, B) See everything they’ve worked for lost, and you can fill in the rest.
Fear will “keep the people in line” and he doesn’t even have a Death Star.
When You have CASH, buy bullets & shot-gun shells.
If a neighbor is going to sell a weapon at his Garage Sale, offer Cash.
Leave NO trail.
The Dancing With the Stars finale was tonight.
I “may” not comply.
Please tell me how ten thousand police and troops would round up and arrest even one million armed demonstrators? No army or police force in history has solved that puzzle, but perhaps Dear Leader and his minions are smarter than all of them...
Target gun owners?..well we will just target back.
Lots of Oathkeepers out there got your back sir.
They already have had access to your bank accounts.
You don't buy, you're a felon. You lose your gun and voting rights. Dems get two birds with one stone.
Why is GOA holding back? Why use weasel words like "most likely"? Who are they afraid of?
Banks won’t like it when we start to close bank accounts and begin to pay for our need with cash....
They need to add muslims to their list.
CAPTAIN OBVIOUS ALERT.
When they finally locate some gun owners the gum owners may be looking down the barrels of their Weatherby at ObamaCare.
No, under the jail..
Haven’t you noticed the goa has never done a thing without the NRA’s help unlike the SAF?
Here comes the NRA parrot!
LOL!
One of the few guys who likes to split the gun community.....get a clue!
“Sources indicate that the ‘pro-family’ candidate was diagnosed with genital herpes at the age of 19.”
“We have recently been shown data that indicates that this ‘pro-life’ candidate had a presciption for birth control pills from the age of sixteen.”
etc, etc.
Not to offend, but those people don't deserve having the word ‘Liberty’ associated with them.
Those people are Statists ( The generic term for Socialists/Progressivists/Marxists/Fascists/Stalinist/Leninist/Collectivists)
It should be:
We need to throw the Statists in jail when this is finished.
Its right there in front of you
Did anyone notice that SELFISHNESS preceeds the apathy? Could greed be a problem?
Question: Can freedom ever be a bad thing?
I believe it can be used badly. For instance, when it is used to exploit people or to hurt an entire economy.
Bankers and insurance companies are _free_ to abuse their power. People with money take advantage of people who don't have much money.
Too much freedom can be a bad thing.
By Mike @ 11/24/09 07:28:57 PM
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I guess I always know that these type were around, but now that are openly talking like this.
No one with even half a brain could think this way and still pretend to even be associated with the concept of “Liberty” [Implied by their use of the label ‘Liberal’]
We are entering very dangerous times my Friends.
“Is there some reason that 30-70 million patriots are not marching on Washington, DC right this moment?!”
http://www.secondammendmentmarch.com
Can we count on you?
I don’t know of any socialist takeover that didn’t target gun owners....they have to.
I threw that number out there as how many troops/police they’d have available on short notice in DC.
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