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A McCain Upset?
The Wall Street Journal ^ | 2009-11-23

Posted on 11/23/2009 12:14:19 PM PST by rabscuttle385

A new Rasmussen poll shows the Arizona Senator in a dead heat with potential GOP primary challenger J.D. Hayworth.

BY ALYSSIA FINLEY

John McCain may have been the GOP's national standard-bearer just a year ago, but now he's in electoral trouble at home. And this time no one can claim it's because of Sarah Palin.

A new Rasmussen poll shows the Arizona Senator in a dead heat with potential GOP primary challenger J.D. Hayworth. Mr. Hayworth served as a congressman from 1995 to 2006, when he lost in a squeaker to Democratic Tempe Mayor Harry Mitchell, who prevailed by hounding Mr. Hayworth over his ties to disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff.

Mr. Hayworth now runs a popular Phoenix talk radio show. Though he hasn't formally declared his candidacy, he has expressed interest. According to Arizona Republic columnist Dan Nowicki, Mr. Hayworth is partly motivated by a "long-standing grudge" against McCain aide Mark Salter, whom he has accused of trying to "blackmail" him in 2005 into ceasing his criticism of Mr. McCain's comprehensive immigration reform bill by threatening to publicize Mr. Hayworth's Abramoff connections.

For his part, Mr. Hayworth now says his problems with Mr. Salter would have no impact on his decision about whether to challenge Mr. McCain. "No, I would never run for office, quote, out of spite, but I do have a profound disagreement with Senator John McCain over the concept of amnesty, whether he wants to call it comprehensive immigration reform or a pathway for guest workers to remain," said Mr. Hayworth.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: 2010; az2010; hayworth; mccain; mccaintruthfile; rinobotsgalore; rinopurge; teapartyrebellion
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1 posted on 11/23/2009 12:14:19 PM PST by rabscuttle385
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To: rabscuttle385

I predict he goes independent


2 posted on 11/23/2009 12:15:10 PM PST by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: rabscuttle385

I’d hardly call it an ‘upset’ if McCain lost - more like cleaning house and party time!


3 posted on 11/23/2009 12:16:56 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Mount Athos

That would be a horrible mistake.


4 posted on 11/23/2009 12:17:02 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma (Al Franken--the face of the third-party voters)
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To: rabscuttle385

Go JD!


5 posted on 11/23/2009 12:17:02 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: lmarie373; Abundy; missanne; Victoria Delsoul; 50mm; stockpirate; Eaker; ducdriver; ChrisInAR; ...

"I think the Democratic Party is a fine party, and I have
no problems with it, in their views and their philosophy."

U.S. SEN. JOHN MCCAIN, 02 APR. 2004

"I have to tell you, [Obama] is a decent person, a person that you
do not have to be scared [of] as president of the United States."

U.S. SEN. JOHN MCCAIN, 10 OCT. 2008

 

6 posted on 11/23/2009 12:17:08 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Purge the RINOs! * http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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To: rabscuttle385
ALYSSIA! John McCain may have been the GOP's national standard-bearer just a year ago

Look at Juan McAmnesty and Sarah Palin TODAY and tell us again who the GOP's national standard-bearer was just a year ago?

7 posted on 11/23/2009 12:18:37 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: Mount Athos
I predict he goes independent

Why would he do that ifhe can win the Republican nomination. You only go Independent if you don't care whether you win or not.

8 posted on 11/23/2009 12:18:45 PM PST by Nonstatist
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To: presently no screen name
This is the perfect opportunity to do it. I'm all for cleaning house when possible in primaries but after the primary, there is no doubt that the goal is to do everything possible to keep a RAT out of a seat.

Voting a straight Republican ticket is the patriotic thing to do.

9 posted on 11/23/2009 12:18:53 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma (Al Franken--the face of the third-party voters)
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To: rabscuttle385

The recent Palinmania has me thinking back to McCain’s damp squib of a convention speech.

He started with the ‘my friendshh’ mantra that was supposed to be his grand finale. Baffled conventioneers looked at each other and realized ‘we’re supposed to applaud now!’ It was an embarrassment.


10 posted on 11/23/2009 12:19:10 PM PST by relictele
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To: rabscuttle385
It couldn't happen to a more deserving S.O.B. . . . .
Thanks to MCLAIM we are stuck with ZERO . . . . . . .
GO JD . . . .
11 posted on 11/23/2009 12:20:01 PM PST by Voter#537 (CONGRESS: Too Much Monkey Business. BO: Too much Monkey not enough Business-FUBO)
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To: rabscuttle385

I like the sound of Sen. Hayworth.


12 posted on 11/23/2009 12:20:15 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: rabscuttle385

If McCain lost I wouldn’t be upset.


13 posted on 11/23/2009 12:20:21 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: rabscuttle385

No more JUANnabies, including JUAN.


14 posted on 11/23/2009 12:20:23 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: rabscuttle385

And if Hayworth should beat him, would all of the “moderate” McLame voters support the Republican nominee or throw a hissy fit and either stay home or go over to the other side, because they have their “consciences” to think of?


15 posted on 11/23/2009 12:20:38 PM PST by THX 1138 ("Harry, I have a gift.")
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To: Mount Athos

So he would cede the chance to defeat him in the primary? That makes no sense.


16 posted on 11/23/2009 12:20:46 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Waste and fraud are synonymous with gov't spending)
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To: rabscuttle385

McCain may finish his career as Secretary of Defense in the Palin administration.


17 posted on 11/23/2009 12:21:56 PM PST by devere
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To: rabscuttle385
Juan, thanks for you service in the USN and thank you for picking Sarah. Now, just GO AWAY!!!!!
18 posted on 11/23/2009 12:22:26 PM PST by JPG (Obama's plan for America...today, Labor Unions...tomorrow, Labor Camps.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Obviously, Sarah’s dragging down the ticket.

/sarcasm


19 posted on 11/23/2009 12:23:25 PM PST by john in springfield (One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe such things.No ordinary man could be such a fool.)
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To: Mount Athos

Pull a Leiberman? I would not be surprised. Ironically, that might split the Demo vote more than it does the GOP vote - Dems will get their usual loons, GOP gets its core, and the middle splits evenly between the three instead of clustering over on the Dem side.


20 posted on 11/23/2009 12:24:17 PM PST by AzSteven ("War is less costly than servitude, the choice is always between Verdun and Dachau." Jean Dutourd)
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To: rabscuttle385

Being a RINO in a predominantly conservative country has consequences.


21 posted on 11/23/2009 12:24:17 PM PST by manic4organic (Obama shot hoops, America lost troops.)
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To: rabscuttle385

I think Palin Factor is also playing in Arizona. Palin is promoting and nurturing NEW BREEDS OF R/C POLITICIANS.

McCain is definitely an ARCHAIC political species.

THUS, THE PALIN FACTOR IS DRIVING AWAY R/C VOTERS FROM MCCAIN, NOW AN ENDANGERED RINO.

Geesh. It’s still Palin’s fault.

Poor McCain. Instead of being defeated, McCain will be better off if he just willingly passes the TORCH to young, abled CONSERVATIVE.


22 posted on 11/23/2009 12:24:44 PM PST by convertedtoreason ( Nature tells us to take a conservative stance.)
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To: presently no screen name

McManiac, he needs to retire..


23 posted on 11/23/2009 12:24:56 PM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: rabscuttle385

I’ve been praying every night for our country. God is hearing us. The globull warming stuff is just an example. Let’s get rid of the old codgers and lifers. I wonder what the final percentages would have been if McCain hadn’t picked Palin.


24 posted on 11/23/2009 12:25:00 PM PST by Indy Pendance (Conservatives: we are their worst nightmare)
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To: rabscuttle385

If the Arizona GOP can unseat McCain, there’s hope for the party. And that means Lindsay Graham’s days are numbered as well. We might even be able to get rid of the Lenin Sisters from Maine. Then we’ll have a party worthy of being called “Grand.”


25 posted on 11/23/2009 12:25:12 PM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: rabscuttle385
Where do I send money to J.D.

McCain really wants to retire, I can feel it in my bones....yeah, he does...

26 posted on 11/23/2009 12:25:17 PM PST by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance...)
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To: Nonstatist
You only go Independent if you don't care whether you win or not.

Or if you're a conservative running for Congress in a traditionally Democrat district where no Republican is running.

27 posted on 11/23/2009 12:25:26 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (:: The government will do for health care what it did for real estate. ::)
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To: rabscuttle385
Juan, thanks for your service in the USN and for selecting Sarah. Now, please GO AWAY!!!!!!
28 posted on 11/23/2009 12:25:33 PM PST by JPG (Obama's plan for America...today, Labor Unions...tomorrow, Labor Camps.)
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To: rabscuttle385

When has McCain not been upset?


29 posted on 11/23/2009 12:25:33 PM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Voting a straight Republican ticket is the patriotic thing to do.
Didn't you forget the sarcasm tag? Because that is a pretty good joke. You must work for the RNC. Voting for the CONSERVATIVE candidate is the patriotic thing to do! Sometimes that is far from the Republican candidate.
30 posted on 11/23/2009 12:25:43 PM PST by AUH2O Repub ( SPalin/Hunter 2012)
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To: rabscuttle385

McCain has tremendous influence with the GOP. There’s no way he’d support Sarah for president. He’ll want to support someone who endorses his politics which has proved to be a failure. I hope he loses on that premise alone.


31 posted on 11/23/2009 12:25:52 PM PST by bronxville
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To: rabscuttle385

Arpaio as Gov. and Hayworth as Senator,I might move back.


32 posted on 11/23/2009 12:26:02 PM PST by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served,to keep us free)
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To: bronxville

RNC...


33 posted on 11/23/2009 12:26:46 PM PST by bronxville
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To: devere

I wouldn’t have a problem with that. That’s the ONE thing going for McCain.


34 posted on 11/23/2009 12:26:50 PM PST by Indy Pendance (Conservatives: we are their worst nightmare)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Voting a straight Republican ticket is the patriotic thing to do.

Well said!
35 posted on 11/23/2009 12:27:18 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: rabscuttle385

Go JD!


36 posted on 11/23/2009 12:28:22 PM PST by patriot preacher (To be a good American Citizen and a Christian IS NOT a contradiction. (www.mygration.blogspot.com))
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To: AUH2O Repub

Oh, yea? You’re trying to convince me there is ever as RAT as conservative as a Republican?


37 posted on 11/23/2009 12:28:53 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma (Al Franken--the face of the third-party voters)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

As in Doug Hoffman? Americans are FED UP with politicians and whoever is THE best conservative will win. PERIOD.


38 posted on 11/23/2009 12:29:04 PM PST by Indy Pendance (Conservatives: we are their worst nightmare)
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To: Indy Pendance

Luke 12:2-3
Everything that is secret will be brought out into the open. Everything that is hidden will be uncovered. 3 What you have said in the dark will be heard in the daylight. What you have whispered to someone behind closed doors will be shouted from the rooftops.

Pray that the Truth will win the day, and that our nation returns to revering the Truth second only to reverance for God Himself.


39 posted on 11/23/2009 12:29:20 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: rabscuttle385
Thank you for the reminder of, exactly, what turned me off most about McCain at that time - I could never vote for Obama, though.
40 posted on 11/23/2009 12:29:41 PM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma; cripplecreek; Grunthor; mkjessup; stephenjohnbanker
but after the primary, there is no doubt that the goal is to do everything possible to keep a RAT out of a seat.

See post 6.

Anyone who says

"I think the Democratic Party is a fine party,
and I have no problems with it,
in their views and their philosophy."

and

"I have to tell you, [Obama] is a decent person,
a person that you do not have to be scared [of]
as president of the United States."

is most assuredly NEITHER a Republican NOR a conservative, no matter what letter follows that person's name.

Electing liberal or "moderate" Big Government "Republicans" who are chomping at the bit to "compromise" with liberal Democrats in a "bipartisan" manner makes about as much sense as destroying capitalism (by bailing out "too big to fail" firms) in order to save it, unless, of course, your agenda is only to obtain and maintain power for the Republican Party, even at the cost of not actually accomplishing genuinely conservative (or conservatarian) goals and objectives.

41 posted on 11/23/2009 12:29:51 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Purge the RINOs! * http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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To: presently no screen name

Adios, Juan. Vaya con Dios.

HASTA LA BYE BYE!


42 posted on 11/23/2009 12:29:51 PM PST by IGOTMINE (1911s FOREVER!)
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To: bronxville

I live in Tempe, az and hope to he removes McCain. Mitchell is against illegals but doesnt stop anything ( healthcare for example ) for illegals if it means crossing party lines


43 posted on 11/23/2009 12:30:12 PM PST by Met7Az
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To: rabscuttle385

A couple of passing thoughts on John McCain...

It seems to me that with the years often comes not only gray hair and wrinkles, but Dementia as well.

Perhaps though young John was overly coached by his Mother to play well, and get along with others.

There’s always the possibility too that Senator McCain walked through the door thinking “R” meant “restroom”, and not only signed in.


44 posted on 11/23/2009 12:30:18 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...Call 'em What you Will, They ALL have Fairies Living In Their Trees.)
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To: Nonstatist

And you also only go independent if you don’t care if the RAT wins.


45 posted on 11/23/2009 12:30:28 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma (Al Franken--the face of the third-party voters)
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To: rabscuttle385

Exactly! See ya McCain you Kenyan as* kisser. He may have been a POW, but now he is a traitor. Adios amigo.


46 posted on 11/23/2009 12:32:04 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: rabscuttle385

The Dems may have a hard time just holding onto the Senate in 2010 and a RINO may get the boot.


47 posted on 11/23/2009 12:32:10 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius; mkjessup; stephenjohnbanker

When—not if—McCain loses, I will be partying and drinking and lighting up some fireworks outside.


48 posted on 11/23/2009 12:32:15 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Purge the RINOs! * http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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To: rabscuttle385

Would a McCain loss plunge Lindsey Graham into a deep, deep depression?


49 posted on 11/23/2009 12:32:58 PM PST by alarm rider (The left always tell you who they fear the most. What are they telling you now?)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Voting a straight Republican ticket is the patriotic thing to do.

Not hardly.

BTW, Al Franken is the face of unprincipled, effete, elitist Republican leaders whose personal agendas do not require them to battle against voter fraud. Third party voters had nothing to do with the public election fraud the nancy boy Republicans aquieced to.

50 posted on 11/23/2009 12:32:58 PM PST by Prokopton
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