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Rudy Giuliani to run for U.S. Senate; If elected may aim for White House in 2012
daily news ^ | 11.19.09 | By Kenneth Lovett and Elizabeth Benjamin In Albany and David Saltonstall In New York Read more: ht

Posted on 11/19/2009 12:00:55 PM PST by trumandogz

Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani has decided not to run for governor next year - but will run for U.S. Senate instead, sources told the Daily News.

A source familiar with Giuliani's thinking said the failed presidential candidate has been telling people he plans to run against Democratic Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand in 2010 to fill out the remaining two years of Hillary Clinton's term.

(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: gillibrand; giuliani; huckabee; julieannie; newyork; ny2010; obama; palin; rino; rinoalert; romney; rudy2010; sarahpalin
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1 posted on 11/19/2009 12:00:58 PM PST by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz

Rudy may be fine in a good position with say, Homeland Security.. use him for his strengths but don’t elevate him to any position where his weaknesses become an issue.


2 posted on 11/19/2009 12:02:51 PM PST by mnehring
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To: trumandogz

He WOULD be an improvement in the Senate, but only if we cannot do better.


3 posted on 11/19/2009 12:03:09 PM PST by Ingtar (Asses far Left of me; Rinos to the Left; FReepin' on the Right with you.)
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To: trumandogz

He WOULD be an improvement in the Senate, but only if we cannot do better.


4 posted on 11/19/2009 12:03:17 PM PST by Ingtar (Asses far Left of me; Rinos to the Left; FReepin' on the Right with you.)
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To: trumandogz

Senator for NY? ... ok
VP ? ... maybe, but only on a strongly conservative ticket
Pres ? no thank you


5 posted on 11/19/2009 12:03:56 PM PST by taxcontrol
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To: trumandogz

Guiliani might make a good Senator for NY. NY is mostly liberal, so is Rudy...

But not President. Not ever President.


6 posted on 11/19/2009 12:05:01 PM PST by Little Ray (The beatings will continue until GOP comes to heel.)
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To: trumandogz

That sound you heard was Andrew Cuomo exhaling.


7 posted on 11/19/2009 12:05:20 PM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: Ingtar

In New York, that’s as good as we’ll ever get in the Senate. I’ll take it.


8 posted on 11/19/2009 12:05:45 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: trumandogz

Senate? OK

But PLEASE RUDY NO! on running for pres.

Come to think of it, who is running for Gov.? Looks like an ideal time to run a conservative-

I am thinking Betsy McCoy or that lawyer girl thats been on FOX news a lot lately

OR ANN COULTER!!!


9 posted on 11/19/2009 12:05:49 PM PST by Mr. K (Deathly afraid my typos become a freeper catchphrase...I'm series!)
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To: trumandogz

If he’s only going to stay for 2 years and run for prez, it seems kind of pointless to run for the Senate b/c he would have to start running immediately,


10 posted on 11/19/2009 12:05:54 PM PST by Lou Budvis (She never bankrupted Alaska or bowed to royalty.)
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To: trumandogz

Let him stay in the Senate. His last presidental run didn’t go too well.


11 posted on 11/19/2009 12:07:04 PM PST by tips up
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To: trumandogz

We can’t just elect a republican that is good on defense and moderate to liberal on everything else. I like Rudy on a couple issues and he seems like a guy you’d might want to have as a buddy sometimes, but that isn’t enough to be President for me.


12 posted on 11/19/2009 12:09:05 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: trumandogz

Too bad he was afraid to run for senate against hillary.


13 posted on 11/19/2009 12:09:23 PM PST by VRWCmember
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To: trumandogz

Despite his weaknesses, Giuliani would have been a better GOP candidate than McCain. And he might have beaten Obama.

He would certainly have made a better POTUS than Obama has.


14 posted on 11/19/2009 12:09:32 PM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: VRWCmember

And Chuck “You” Schumer.

Regardless, I hope he wins the Senate seat and stays there.


15 posted on 11/19/2009 12:11:21 PM PST by RabidBartender (I will work harder, Napoleon is always right.)
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To: trumandogz

Could be enough for Obama to back down from putting KSM on trial on USA soil.

Obama would prefer the filibuster proof majority over pleasing his marxist lawyer buddies in the NYCLU. Ron Kuby and GWU Law School only has so much pull.

Guiliani wins by 6, easily.


16 posted on 11/19/2009 12:11:38 PM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: DieHard the Hunter
Blasphemy
17 posted on 11/19/2009 12:12:15 PM PST by RGSpincich
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To: Mr. K

I am surprised he wants the Senate as opposed to the governorship. Word is that he doesn’t play well with others and is better suited to an executive position.

Correct on Cuomo breathing a sigh of relief — this is great news for GOP Senate pickups. And it will hurt Schumer, who also has to face the NY voters next year, as well.


18 posted on 11/19/2009 12:12:44 PM PST by mwl8787
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To: VRWCmember
Too bad he was afraid to run for senate against hillary.

You do realize that Guiliani was diagnosed with prostate cancer during the campaign and that's the reason he dropped out against the HildaBeast in 2000, right?

19 posted on 11/19/2009 12:12:51 PM PST by NYRepublican72
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To: Ingtar

You can do better.


20 posted on 11/19/2009 12:13:13 PM PST by DallasSun (i believe in separation of church and hate.)
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To: Lou Budvis

Not thrilled by Rudy, but hey-didn’t Zero do that?


21 posted on 11/19/2009 12:13:39 PM PST by Califreak (Obama's Purple Reign must be stopped!)
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To: JerseyHighlander

Probably — but there are 2 Senate races next year in NY - both Gillibrand is up (2-yr remainder) plus Schumer.


22 posted on 11/19/2009 12:14:21 PM PST by mwl8787
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To: NYRepublican72

Yes, I realize that. But what was his excuse in 2006 when he could have stopped her future political aspirations dead in the water by beating her then?


23 posted on 11/19/2009 12:15:57 PM PST by VRWCmember
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To: VRWCmember

“Too bad he was afraid to run ... against Hillary.”

My understanding is that he wasn’t AFRAID, he got cancer.


24 posted on 11/19/2009 12:15:57 PM PST by Snow Eagle (Pray for America - Psalm 109:8)
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To: trumandogz

He is welcome in the Senate. Very electable in NY and will be a fiscal and security conservative. As far as Presidential candidate, I’ll wait and see what my options are. At this point, not very likely that I would be excited.


25 posted on 11/19/2009 12:16:19 PM PST by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts soooo good!)
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To: mnehring

I wish it was against Chuck E. Cheese Schumer to get rid of that pompous ass. I don’t want Rudy for POTUS but he’d be my choice for Attorney General.


26 posted on 11/19/2009 12:17:42 PM PST by jimmyo57
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To: mwl8787

Guiliani and Schumer have the same power base, same donor base. They have been on somewhat friendly if not outright cordial terms for much of the last 18 years.

In this theoretical duality, Guiliani is not the incumbent powerbroker inside this power base, and would be permanently exiled from his business community if he dare go up directly against Schumer.


27 posted on 11/19/2009 12:17:49 PM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: trumandogz

i was hoping he would run for Governor but Senate would be good
should put this seat in play if nothing else and gives a boost to other Rs further down the ticket


28 posted on 11/19/2009 12:19:50 PM PST by DM1
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To: mwl8787

Senators don’t have to play well with others to be effective. Just look at Coburn and DeMint. But anyone with leadership skills would rather be an executive all else being equal. But NY has huge problems like California. It is likely to ruin the political future of anyone who touches the job.


29 posted on 11/19/2009 12:20:03 PM PST by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts soooo good!)
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To: trumandogz

Rudy for Prez? Considering who is there now, he’s totally over qualified for the job.


30 posted on 11/19/2009 12:23:23 PM PST by Bringbackthedraft (Beware of the Palin Tsunami!!!)
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To: trumandogz

Senate YAY
White House NAY


31 posted on 11/19/2009 12:31:09 PM PST by libh8er
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To: trumandogz

smells like a hit piece/attempted sabotage....why would New Yorkers elect him if he is just going to turn around and run for POTUS 2 yrs. later?


32 posted on 11/19/2009 12:34:16 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Yep, liberal newspaper speculation.

But he would kick Hussein’s arse, no doubt.


33 posted on 11/19/2009 12:38:13 PM PST by roses of sharon (A warrior assumes that he is already dead, so he might as well fight.)
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To: trumandogz

This is great news. Assuming Rudy can put together a coherent message on social issues, he’d be a great candidate in 2012.

There were only two people last election cycle that made the American Left stark-raving mad. (Yes, I know they’re stark-raving mad every day, but waaaaaaaay more than usual.)

Those two people were Sarah Palin and Rudy Guiliani. I suspect it will continue to be those two into 2012.


34 posted on 11/19/2009 12:54:11 PM PST by Rugged Individual (Who is the world's smallest minority? I am. I am an individual.)
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To: mnehring; taxcontrol; Little Ray; Mr. K; Secret Agent Man; Truth is a Weapon; libh8er

You guys should re-consider Guiliani’s viability as a presidential candidate. Google “Guiliani” and find elite liberal opinion of him. He pisses them off as much as Sarah Palin, for a very specific reason. He’s a tough SOB street-fighter for the Left. He has been ever since his prosecutor days. We need a street-fighter against the communists/Marxists/collectivists/liberals. We need someone who isn’t going to adopt the “new tone” with these a—holes.

There is nobody else that is more like kryptonite to a liberal than Guiliani besides Palin. He’s worthy of your support if he’s nominated. I guarantee Palin would endorse him.


35 posted on 11/19/2009 1:07:40 PM PST by Rugged Individual (Who is the world's smallest minority? I am. I am an individual.)
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To: trumandogz

If Giuliani wasn’t an adulterer and pro-abortion, he’d be president of the US right now and we’d be working our way out of this mess.


36 posted on 11/19/2009 1:07:58 PM PST by veritas2002
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To: Rugged Individual
Don't start this again.

You hit it right on the nose with “...street-fighter for the Left.” He ‘s a gun-grabbing, pro-abortion RINO. His sole conservative accreditation is a a somewhat pro-business stance.
He's probably the best Republican Senator we can hope for from NY, but he stinks on ice from a national conservative point of view.

37 posted on 11/19/2009 1:17:19 PM PST by Little Ray (The beatings will continue until GOP comes to heel.)
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To: Little Ray

You know what I meant. He’s bitchslapped liberals repeatedly in NY. They despise him as much as Palin. I don’t think you’ve read what he’s done and what they’ve written about him.

I’m just saying a Guiliani candidacy would make them as unglued as Palin. Guiliani/Palin in 2012 would be ideal. How many liberals would die because of high blood pressure?


38 posted on 11/19/2009 1:22:20 PM PST by Rugged Individual (Who is the world's smallest minority? I am. I am an individual.)
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To: Rugged Individual

Lessee.
Liberals hate him.
Conservatives have issues with his policies and his personal life.

That’s pretty poor presidential material.


39 posted on 11/19/2009 1:41:12 PM PST by Little Ray (The beatings will continue until GOP comes to heel.)
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To: Little Ray

“Lessee.
Liberals hate him.
Conservatives have issues with his policies and his personal life.

That’s pretty poor presidential material.”

WHAT?!

The fact that liberals despise him is the ultimate resume enhancer! I understand why they hate him. He has attacked them for years. That’s what I want from the next Republican. No new tone. Bury the Left. Issue after issue after issue.

He’s almost even with Palin on the Liberal Hatred Scale. That’s a huge plus. I’d be very pleased with Guiliani-Palin 2012. Two tough street-fighters to take on liberals.


40 posted on 11/19/2009 1:46:12 PM PST by Rugged Individual (Who is the world's smallest minority? I am. I am an individual.)
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To: trumandogz

I’d rather he took Hillary’s seat and stayed there than trying another RINO bid for President. Not Presidential material, IMO, but for a New York Senate seat...yeah, that’ll do. Unfortunately I can’t see getting a true conservative in there, Rudy may be the closest possible thing.

}:-)4


41 posted on 11/19/2009 1:49:28 PM PST by Moose4 (Has anybody seen my tagline?)
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To: trumandogz

Too fearful to take on Schumer for the full 6-year term


42 posted on 11/19/2009 1:52:02 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: Rugged Individual

Simply being hated by New York liberals is not a significant qualification for President. There are a lot of jobs that it could be a qualification for, but there’s no way I could support Giuliani for President. No way. He’s way too anti-2A, way too socially liberal.

Now, would I like to see him kick over a few apple carts in the Senate? Oh my gosh yes. But not President.

}:-)4


43 posted on 11/19/2009 1:53:15 PM PST by Moose4 (Has anybody seen my tagline?)
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To: VRWCmember

His excuse was prostate cancer; so second-stringer LAZ E OH was called in.


44 posted on 11/19/2009 1:54:10 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: mnehring

I think he’d be ok and possibly even good as a Senator from NY, but there’s no way I’d vote for him for President. He’s not pro-life and is actually quite liberal on a number of issues.


45 posted on 11/19/2009 1:54:24 PM PST by livius
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To: veritas2002

Interesting, if former Sen. Alan Simpson of WY had been pro-life, he, not Dan Quayle, would have been the V.P. choice in 1988.


46 posted on 11/19/2009 1:56:37 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

If he were running for Senate in a red state, I’d be upset. But in a strong blue state like NY, the Republicans pick up an extra Senator in a state where they normally wouldn’t have had a prayer.


47 posted on 11/19/2009 1:56:57 PM PST by bw17
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To: bw17

I like the idea, as long as he stays there. He would be excellent on the Foreign Relations committee, and we’ll need a real leader there to dethrone John F-in Kerry and to take over for Lugar.


48 posted on 11/19/2009 2:04:03 PM PST by MNReaganite (All great change in America begins at the dinner table.)
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To: trumandogz

We’ve entered the twilight zone, AGAIN!

Electing liberals will not advance the conservative agenda. The only thing worse then a liberal Democrat, is a liberal Republican. Appears some folks didn’t learn anything from the 2007 GOP primaries. We don’t need more liberal candidates in the GOP. We need conservative candidates.


49 posted on 11/19/2009 2:05:49 PM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Ingtar
He WOULD be an improvement in the Senate, but only if we cannot do better.He WOULD be an improvement in the Senate, but only if we cannot do better.

We can't. There has been one conservative Senator from New York in my lifetime and there isn't likely to be another. It was Bill Buckley's brother, who was elected in a fluky three way race.

Actually, I think this is a great move by Rudy and gives us a real chance at an (R) from New York. Rudy is very good on lots of issues. The main thing people were worried about was judicial picks because of his pro-choice position and that is a much smaller issue for a Senator than a President. He'd be strong on homeland security, national defense, taxes, limited government, lots of issues.

50 posted on 11/19/2009 2:10:06 PM PST by colorado tanker (What's it all about, Barrrrry? Is it just for the power, you live?)
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