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Army Testing XM-25 "Smart Weapon"
military.com ^ | 11/11/09 | Lt. Col. Christopher Lehner

Posted on 11/17/2009 9:35:34 PM PST by jdfromny

..At first glance, the XM-25 looks like something out of a Sci-Fi movie. It features an array of sights, sensors and lasers housed in a Target Acquisition Fire Control unit on top, an oversized magazine behind the trigger mechanism, and a short, ominous barrel wrapped by a recoil dampening sleeve.

Unlike a Hollywood prop, however, this weapon is very real and designed to accurately deliver an explosive round that neutralizes targets at distances of up to 700 meters - well past the range of the rifles and carbines that most Soldiers carry today....

(Excerpt) Read more at military.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: duplicate; usarmy; xm25
"What makes this weapon system truly revolutionary is the ability to target the enemy, pass on this information to the sensors and microchips of its 25mm HEAB round, and have that round detonate over the target," explained Maj. Shawn Murray, a Soldier Weapons assistant product manager in PEO Soldier, the organization responsible for developing the XM-25. Hopefully this weapon will hold up on the battlefield. I believe Obama is probably negotiating to have the Chinese make them for us.

"When the HEAB round explodes, the target is peppered with fragmentation," Murray said. "Our studies indicate that the XM-25 with HEAB is 300 percent more effective at incapacitating the enemy than current weapons at the squad level."

1 posted on 11/17/2009 9:35:35 PM PST by jdfromny
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To: LucyT; Fred Nerks; TigersEye

Ping to new weapon.


2 posted on 11/17/2009 9:39:43 PM PST by Candor7 (The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (.Member NRA)
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To: jdfromny

Why publish the specs and performance on this weapon? Whatever happened to secrecy?

The tangos will read this and have 3 years to plan a strategy to counter this weapon, like seeking overhead cover for ambush positions, and acquiring body armor.

Without surprise this weapon may be a waste of money.

Sheesh.


3 posted on 11/17/2009 9:47:34 PM PST by Candor7 (The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (.Member NRA)
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To: jdfromny
HUmmm

An M-14 with an ART scope will allow you to drop a gomer at 1 Km. Old school, requires something called Marksmanship.

You have heard of it, the Marines dish it out every day.....

4 posted on 11/17/2009 9:48:57 PM PST by ASOC (Cave quid dicis, quando, et cui)
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To: jdfromny

I can understand making things like tanks, aircraft, and the like high-tech (to a degree), but I think it’s a bit overkill when they start doing it with infantry weapons; they don’t have whole crews geared towards keeping them working.

Does anyone besides me think all this technology is making us more vulnerable? All it would take is one good EMP to make it all useless (if you want a good example of how vulnerable, read the newest War of the World’s novel; in it, the aliens first use EMP weapons, to very devastating effect, to disable the Earth’s defenses.)


5 posted on 11/17/2009 9:53:26 PM PST by RWB Patriot ("Need has never produced anything. It has only been an excuse to steal from those with ablity.")
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To: Candor7

This is one of the offspring of the widely-known and horribly-doomed OICW (the other being the XM-8, destined to replace the M16 until it...er...melted). It’s an “open secret” already.


6 posted on 11/17/2009 10:04:27 PM PST by ctdonath2 (End the coup!)
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To: ASOC

A .308 will drop someone visible at 1000m.
A 25mm smart-fuse grenade will drop someone behind cover at 700m.
Each has its uses.


7 posted on 11/17/2009 10:05:48 PM PST by ctdonath2 (End the coup!)
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To: ctdonath2

Looks like a pork barrel project foisted on the military to me.

If that thing is designed to be a squad weapon, it will have to operate in all kinds of weather conditions, something I doubt it can do.

Hey, go back to the Stoner, and a flame thrower.


8 posted on 11/17/2009 10:09:16 PM PST by Candor7 (The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (.Member NRA)
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To: jdfromny
"the new 25mm HEAB round,"

We got this round from Israel?

9 posted on 11/17/2009 10:23:32 PM PST by MindBender26 (Never kick leftists when they're down. Wait till they're half way back up. You get better leverage!)
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To: jdfromny

Looked like a great weapon on the military channel (saw the advertisement). It is a great idea and seems to be implementable. I think that it will be successful as long as batteries are available... I can just see that those in the brush are calling in for new batteries though... geez. May not be a major problem, but it will be a problem.

Another great solution that is technology limited (especially in battle conditions).


10 posted on 11/17/2009 11:11:10 PM PST by Deagle
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To: MindBender26

lol


11 posted on 11/17/2009 11:32:19 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: ctdonath2
A .308 will drop someone visible at 1000m.
A 25mm smart-fuse grenade will drop someone a dozen people behind cover at 700m.
Each has its uses.

Fixed that for you...:) And it highlights the REAL advantage!

12 posted on 11/17/2009 11:40:27 PM PST by PugetSoundSoldier (Pray for President Obama: Psalms 109:8)
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To: ctdonath2; PugetSoundSoldier

And a Barrett will turn cover into concealment, letting you drop someone behind “cover” at 1000m+.

But I guess it does it in a really boring way.


13 posted on 11/18/2009 12:13:50 AM PST by BobbyT
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To: BobbyT
And a Barrett will turn cover into concealment, letting you drop someone behind “cover” at 1000m+.

.50 is still stopped by sand bags, like nearly everything else.

14 posted on 11/18/2009 12:14:57 AM PST by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: jdfromny

Zorg: Voila! The ZF-1.
[the weapon opens, and Zorg picks it up]
Zorg: It's light. Handle's adjustable for easy carrying, good for righties and lefties. Breaks down into four parts, undetectable by x-ray, ideal for quick, discreet interventions. A word on firepower. Titanium recharger, three thousand round clip with bursts of three to three hundred, and with the Replay button - another Zorg invention - it's even easier.
[lights reveal a mannequin in police gear] One shot...
[shoots mannequin]
...and replay sends every following shot to the same location.
[turns around, shooting in the direction of the Mangalores; bullets curve their trajectory and hit the mannequin instead]
And to finish the job, all the Zorg oldies but goodies.
[fires every weapon at the mannequin as he mentions them] Rocket launcher... arrow launcher with exploding or poisonous gas heads, very practical... our famous net launcher... the always-efficient flamethrower, my favorite...
[winks to the Mangalores]
and for the grand finale, the all-new 'Ice-cube System'.
[fires a cloud of liquid nitrogen which freezes the remains of the mannequin. Mangalores applaud politely]

I don't like warriors. Too narrow-minded, no subtlety. And worse, they fight for hopeless causes. Honor?
Huh! Honor's killed millions of people, it hasn't saved a single one. Tell you what I do like though: a killer. A dyed-in-the-wool killer. Cold-blooded, clean, methodical and thorough.
Now a real killer, when he picked up the ZF-1, would have immediately asked about the little red button on the bottom of the gun.
[a Mangalore presses the button, detonating a large explosive]
Bring me the priest.

15 posted on 11/18/2009 12:19:56 AM PST by anymouse (God didn't write this sitcom we call life, he's just the critic.)
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To: jdfromny

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33RhuzUrx_A


16 posted on 11/18/2009 12:23:12 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: jdfromny

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b7/MK53_fuze.jpg/423px-MK53_fuze.jpg


17 posted on 11/18/2009 12:24:03 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: BobbyT
And a Barrett will turn cover into concealment, letting you drop someone behind “cover” at 1000m+.

Operative word being someONE. A HEAB round from an XM-25 will do the same thing to a dozen people.

One shot, one kill - OR - one shot, a dozen kills.

Your choice...

18 posted on 11/18/2009 12:29:05 AM PST by PugetSoundSoldier (Pray for President Obama: Psalms 109:8)
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To: anymouse
(Off-topic)

That's a pretty funny and strange movie (The Fifth Element (1997)). I love the music that plays under the closing credits.

19 posted on 11/18/2009 12:37:34 AM PST by NutCrackerBoy
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To: jdfromny
I believe Obama is probably negotiating to have the Chinese make them for us.

Oh. How about outsourcing all of our weapons systems to them?

20 posted on 11/18/2009 3:12:09 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is fading.)
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To: ASOC
An M-14 with an ART scope will allow you to drop a gomer at 1 Km. Old school, requires something called Marksmanship.

I agree for the constant need to emphasize marksmanship, however, your ability is setup your shots is negated by the reality of the combat arena.

21 posted on 11/18/2009 3:47:10 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: jdfromny
Army Testing XM-25 'Smart' Weapon
22 posted on 11/18/2009 5:57:33 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

OOps, looked it up and didn’t see anything.


23 posted on 11/18/2009 8:34:40 AM PST by jdfromny (At what point are we officially "North Americans"?)
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To: Candor7

I saw this on the show Future Weapons. It looks pretty good. 25mm HE rounds are already commonly used. This puts instantaneous computer feedback from the ranging sensors in the weapon into the round itself allowing it to detonate within inches of the range programmed into it. Pop one through a window and it detonates in the middle of the room not on the back wall.


24 posted on 11/18/2009 1:02:19 PM PST by TigersEye (0bama is our first Port of Entry President - I hope he goes home.)
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To: TigersEye

I hope its worth the trouble.So many horror stories about weapons issued to soldiers that are suppposed to work but do not. This unit has not been combat field tested.A squad weapon saves the whole squad in difficult situations. If this sucker doesn’t work, there is going to be a lot of hurt.

I think its a cool weapon. Will it work after being drug through the mud, frozen overnight and used at dawn the next day? No idea.


25 posted on 11/18/2009 5:06:19 PM PST by Candor7 (The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (.Member NRA)
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To: Candor7

Those are all good questions. Hopefully they do some good testing before putting them out in the field. Weapons like that are also darned expensive with all that tech built into them. A brass jacketed lead bullet is just so simple and foolproof.


26 posted on 11/18/2009 9:16:43 PM PST by TigersEye (0bama is our first Port of Entry President - I hope he goes home.)
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To: jdfromny

Day-um!


27 posted on 11/19/2009 9:31:27 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: TigersEye
I saw this on the show Future Weapons.

I like that show! The host's soft speaking is in stark contrast to the violence of the weapons he presents, and makes them seem that much MORE ominous.

28 posted on 11/19/2009 9:35:53 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: jdfromny
Nobody posted any pics yet?


29 posted on 11/19/2009 9:40:23 AM PST by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: anymouse; NutCrackerBoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pxjnl1yuXk
30 posted on 11/19/2009 9:44:22 AM PST by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: SuziQ

LOL I know what you mean. They picked a good guy to host Future Weapons. He has a combination of being the tough Navy Seal guy with the mischievous boy thing who is all excited about letting you in on a secret. Like he’s got some M-80s stashed in the woods and “sssshhhhh, come with me, you’re gonna love this.” When you get there he doesn’t have 5 of ‘em or 10 of ‘em he has a huge case of M-80s.


31 posted on 11/19/2009 10:09:02 AM PST by TigersEye (0bama is our first Port of Entry President - I hope he goes home.)
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To: NutCrackerBoy; anymouse

“Multi-pass.”


32 posted on 11/19/2009 10:16:54 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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