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Million Hit By 'Plague Worse Than Swine Flu'
Daily Express ^ | November 15, 2009 | Greg Miskiw

Posted on 11/16/2009 8:24:23 AM PST by RedMominBlueState

A DEADLY plague could sweep across Europe, doctors fear, after an outbreak of a virus in Ukraine plunged the country and its neighbours into a state of panic. A cocktail of three flu viruses are reported to have mutated into a single pneumonic plague, which it is believed may be far more dangerous than swine flu. The death toll has reached 189 and more than 1 million people have been infected, most of them in the nine regions of Western Ukraine. President of Ukraine Viktor Yushchenko has called in the World Health Organisation and a team of nine specialists are carrying out tests in Kiev and Lviv to identify the virus. Samples have been sent to London for analysis. President Yushchenko said: “People are dying. The epidemic is killing doctors. This is absolutely inconceivable in the 21st Century.”

(Excerpt) Read more at express.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: groundtheairlines; million; pandemic; plague; spanishflu2; swineflu; washyourhands; worse
Does anyone else thing there is something weird about this whole swine flu phenomenon? What about the fact that Baxter Labs "accidentally" sent vaccine material containing live Avian bird flu and seasonal influenza to labs around the world? Bloomberg reported this last February.Then there was the weird story about the man arrested in California in August who claimed that Baxter's Ukranian lab was in fact producing a bioweapon disguised as a vaccine....
1 posted on 11/16/2009 8:24:24 AM PST by RedMominBlueState
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To: RedMominBlueState
Few people have any "natural" immunity to influenza viruses.

We'll check up on this AFTER the stink blows off eh!

2 posted on 11/16/2009 8:28:08 AM PST by muawiyah (Git Out The Way)
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To: RedMominBlueState

The Truth is Out There



3 posted on 11/16/2009 8:28:30 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (:: The government will do for health care what it did for real estate. ::)
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To: RedMominBlueState
Pneumonic plague? Its a bacteria that is carried by infected fleas on rats. The Black Death in the Middle Ages burned like a wildfire through European society. Almost three fourths of the population was dead before it had run its course. We haven't had a pandemic for the last century.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus

4 posted on 11/16/2009 8:30:16 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: RedMominBlueState
I'm giving in to total paranoia here for just a moment --

This feels like an election recount in MN. Coleman won? Recount. Coleman won again? Recount. Really?? Recount it again! Ahhhhhhhh ... Franken won. We can stop.

It seems like disease is cropping up all over the place, and each one will wipe out millions, but then it doesn't -- but then another terrible disease pops up and everyone panics, until it fizzles -- but then ...

Seems like the cycle may repeat until the evil guys in the lab finally get a microbe that really packs a punch.

[/paranoid rant]

5 posted on 11/16/2009 8:30:47 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: RedMominBlueState

It does seems strange for this to appear suddenly in just the Ukraine. The bioweapon-experiment-gone-bad hypothesis can’t be completely dismissed, offhand.


6 posted on 11/16/2009 8:31:15 AM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: RedMominBlueState
In the comments.... "I notice how all the reports of planes spraying over the Ulraine have been ignored!? countless people telephoned the government & tv station asking what were these planes doing spraying just 2 days before the outbreak this is vitally important as BAXTERS have a laboratory near there & it would not be the first time that BAXTERS have deliberately infected people with their virus (which has a US PATENT No.) Have BAXTERS deliberately poisoned the population of the Ukraine? to spread their virus & therefore get more money??? this needs to be investigated at once as a matter of the utmost urgency as BAXTERS are criminal in their handling of this plague virus"

Wow! Just wow!

7 posted on 11/16/2009 8:31:20 AM PST by BROKKANIC
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To: goldstategop

Wasn’t that the Bubonic plague?


8 posted on 11/16/2009 8:35:20 AM PST by Dr. Zzyzx
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To: Jeff Chandler
To the people of the Ukraine on behalf of Randall Flagg I Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin send you greetings!

9 posted on 11/16/2009 8:36:13 AM PST by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: RedMominBlueState
Here is a related thread about this subject:

H1N1 "super flu" plague in Ukraine sparks concern, conspiracy theories about origins
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2387422/posts

10 posted on 11/16/2009 8:37:57 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: ClearCase_guy

You don’t have to make excuses for your ideas. There aren’t too many people around here gonna tell you to get out the tinfoil anymore. Too much has happened that the most paranoid among us couldn’t have dreamt up.

I have been having the same thoughts about all these various diseases, bird flu, then swine flu, now this pneumonic flu. This can’t all happen naturally all within a 3 or 4 year period. Well maybe it can, but i don’t believe it has.

I’ve been saying that Obowmao and whomever else is in on this world takeover needs a mega-disaster in order to institute martial law here in the USA and that it would likely include quarantining us. Whether it be from a nuke to a major US city or from a disease that is out of control.

The first one, the nuking of a US city, might be by some “home grown” terrorists. The second, the disease, is nobody’s fault, but we still have to put the Constitution and all federal, state and local rights on hold for our own good.


11 posted on 11/16/2009 8:38:56 AM PST by uncitizen (I'm mad as hell and i'm not gonna take it anymore!!)
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To: ClearCase_guy; RedMominBlueState

“Does anyone else thing there is something weird about this whole swine flu phenomenon?”

I have had the same inclination as ClearCaseGuy describes: That “they” want some sort of a pandemic to be able to seize control and void normal laws, like Vain Hussein’s declaration of National Health Emergency.


12 posted on 11/16/2009 8:39:00 AM PST by JoyjoyfromNJ (Psalm 121)
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To: RedMominBlueState

google thieves oil!!
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The History of Thieves
Europeans began producing essential oils in the 12th century. During the Plague of the 15th century, certain thieves robbed the dead without becoming infected. Finally, four thieves were captured in Marseilles, France, and charged with robbing the dead and dying victims of the plague.

At the trial, the magistrate offered them leniency if they would reveal how they managed to avoid contracting the dreaded infection, in spite of their close contact with infected corpses. It was disclosed that these thieves were perfumers and spice traders who had rubbed themselves with a concoction of aromatic herbs (cinnamon, clove, and oregano).


13 posted on 11/16/2009 8:39:09 AM PST by freedommom
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To: RedMominBlueState

Well, I can scarcely think of a likelier place than Ukraine to suffer from a lab-made plague put together under the direction of a man who has a habit of poisoning his enemies with outré substances.


14 posted on 11/16/2009 8:41:31 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: freedommom

“At the trial, the magistrate offered them leniency if they would reveal how they managed to avoid contracting the dreaded infection, in spite of their close contact with infected corpses. It was disclosed that these thieves were perfumers and spice traders who had rubbed themselves with a concoction of aromatic herbs (cinnamon, clove, and oregano).”

That was very possibly effective, as the transmission vector was fleas. Completely irrelevant to air-transmitted flu virus though...


15 posted on 11/16/2009 8:41:31 AM PST by PreciousLiberty
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To: RedMominBlueState

189 deaths out of over one million known cases, is a mortality rate of 0.0189% or less.


16 posted on 11/16/2009 8:41:35 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Unseal the lock box containing every document pertaining to Obama's life, TODAY!)
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To: BROKKANIC

No, No, No....please pay attention and take this seriously: This could be a disaster. It sounds like the 1918 worldwide flu pandemic. The killer virus mutates and begins to spread in a small geographical area (in 1918 mthey think it started in a small Kansas town) and then spreads exponentially, mutating all teh way, before a vacine can be made. In 1918, the flu killed millions in a few months; in the US cities such as Philly had thousands of deaths a day. The only persons who avoided it were those who totally isolated themselves until the virus had passed. Those who died generally turned blue/black, and either were dead, with black lungs, within 12-24 hours of the first symptoms, or else seemed to recover and prematurely resumed acitivity and contracted pneumonia and other common bugs whiiich overwhelmed them due to a depleted immune system. My mother’s father died November 6, 1918 in the later manner. A word to the wise....


17 posted on 11/16/2009 8:46:06 AM PST by dtrpscout (A bad dog is better than most good people.)
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To: RedMominBlueState
I came across this article that I find interesting. WHO redefined the meaning of pandemic early this year:

How U.N. redefined 'pandemic' to heighten alarm over H1N1
18 posted on 11/16/2009 8:55:25 AM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: RedMominBlueState; Grampa Dave; Ernest_at_the_Beach; SierraWasp; PhilDragoo; Jeff Head; ...
I'm rereading a great book "The Last Centurian", John Ringo, which reminds me of some FR authors, in that it is very close to a lot of today's headlines and is foreward looking for it's time.

It has a plague which is scarily similar to reports on this one and it really nails the liberal bend towards socialized medicine. Great work of fiction, conservative outlook and reminds me of some superb FR authors.

19 posted on 11/16/2009 8:57:12 AM PST by BOBTHENAILER (The Obamanistas' are out to GIT YOU , and get you they will)
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To: ClearCase_guy

See post # 18 re WHO redefining ‘pandemic’.


20 posted on 11/16/2009 8:57:53 AM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: RedMominBlueState

“President Yushchenko said: “People are dying. The epidemic is killing
doctors. This is absolutely inconceivable in the 21st Century.””

Not absolutely inconceivable.
When you 800-pound gorilla neighboring nation wishes you ill.
And ran (still runs?) one of the deadliest bio-chem weapons programs
in the history of the Earth.

And they wish you ill. (so to speak)

OH, and it is often doctors, nurses, ambulance drivers that are the
“carnaries in the coal mine” when something really nasty erupts
in terms of a biological plague.


21 posted on 11/16/2009 9:25:21 AM PST by VOA
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To: RedMominBlueState
death toll has reached 189 and more than 1 million people have been infected

What is it with people getting so terrified by numbers like these?

189 is a drop in the bucket compared to the population. Sheesh.

22 posted on 11/16/2009 9:38:40 AM PST by what's up
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To: JoyjoyfromNJ

Our country has a few problems...

Too many old people...(Sucking up resources and no longer contributing.)

Too many unemployed...(Sucking up resources and no longer contributing.)

Wouldn’t it be conveeeeinent for our government if a plague wiped out 20% of our (mostly elderly) population?

Suddenly, the Social Security problem would be fixed. Unemployment would drop back into the single digits, and Obummer would look like some kind of genius.


23 posted on 11/16/2009 12:37:40 PM PST by proudpapa (Obama - Worst One Ever!)
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To: JoyjoyfromNJ

Our country has a few problems...

Too many old people...(Sucking up resources and no longer contributing.)

Too many unemployed...(Sucking up resources and no longer contributing.)

Wouldn’t it be conveeeeinent for our government if a plague wiped out 20% of our (mostly elderly) population?

Suddenly, the Social Security problem would be fixed. Unemployment would drop back into the single digits, and Obummer would look like some kind of genius.


24 posted on 11/16/2009 12:37:48 PM PST by proudpapa (Obama - Worst One Ever!)
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To: BOBTHENAILER

Who is the author? Maybe it IS a FReeper... Just a thought.


25 posted on 11/16/2009 12:55:08 PM PST by SierraWasp (AARP is guilty of Elder Abuse by endorsing a law that eliminates Medicare Advantaqe plans!!!)
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To: SierraWasp

John Ringo.


26 posted on 11/16/2009 1:02:03 PM PST by BOBTHENAILER (The Obamanistas' are out to GIT YOU , and get you they will)
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