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Did the Eagle Scout Receive Proper Punishment?
FoxNews.com ^ | October 13, 2009

Posted on 10/14/2009 11:26:56 AM PDT by ctdonath2

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To: UAConservative

The punk in New Hampshire who murdered a randomly chosen woman in her home, and slashed her young daughter’s throat was also an Eagle Scout. Let’s not get carried away with the significance of these titles.
http://www.necn.com/Boston/New-England/2009/10/07/Prosecutors-Mont-Vernon/1254921180.html


61 posted on 10/14/2009 12:50:16 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: animal172

no guns - new jersey law made it impossible, and i can’t remember anyone talking about hunting as part of any school related event. that’s odd; there were plenty of hunters around at the time. three gun sellers in the town, lots of fishing and hunting.

lots of the kids in my class carried folding knives, though, usually on a belt sheath.


62 posted on 10/14/2009 12:51:11 PM PDT by sig226 (My President was President of the week at the Norwegian Slough Academy.)
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To: Hodar
I have grandkids younger than 5 that exercise better judgement.

That is the whole point of these Zero Tolerance policies.

The schools will tell you that these policies are to ensure that all of your kids are kept safe.

The real reason is to avoid having to make judgment calls on who will be punished and who will not.

Making judgment calls risk making a parent agree, it risk litigation if a parent thinks his child was treated differently than some other.

Avoiding litigation has forced school officials in to one size fits all rules.

63 posted on 10/14/2009 12:51:57 PM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: Hodar
"Seriously, what other industry outside of 'education' is this brain dead, this incompetent, this immature and this insecure that they have to demonstrate their power in such a childish manner?"

Politicians!!!

64 posted on 10/14/2009 1:07:01 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog ( The Hog of Steel)
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To: Hodar

I went to grade school in the 40’s and many times I brought my .22 to shool with ammo so I could hunt after school. I just gave it to the teacher to watch over it. No questions asked. I wonder what todays PC bastards think of that., I imagine like Glenn Beck says, blood would be squirting out of their eyes!! :-)


65 posted on 10/14/2009 1:10:47 PM PDT by jesseam (Been there, done that)
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To: ctdonath2
This exemplary young man is facing the dirty, smelly, leftist hippies that undoubtedly run the school board and who already have given him two strikes: He's a member of the Boy Scouts of America, an organization that bans sex perverts, and he wants to be an officer in the U.S. Army, an organization that bans...sex perverts! It's all about the homo-friendly agenda pushed by the likes of the teachers unions, GLSEN, and Obama & his homosexual “safe schools” czar...what a joke!
66 posted on 10/14/2009 1:12:06 PM PDT by twister881
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To: Hodar
Based upon the press this story is getting, I can imagine (again, no evidence whatsoever) that some member on the committee may streamline his application through the system.

You forget: This is Obama's West Point.

67 posted on 10/14/2009 1:12:31 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Hear us, O Bama: Mmm, mmm, mmm.)
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To: ctdonath2
I remember "Be prepared" was one of the cub scout mottos. The fact that he carried around a survival kit in his car says a lot about his scouting experience and the influence it has had on his life.

Now...let's compare that with how public school "prepares" our children today. They are practically treated like prison inmates, many are exposed to violence and sexual abuse at the hands of their fellow classmates and school administrators (and teachers)...education is optional.

68 posted on 10/14/2009 1:26:03 PM PDT by TNdandelion (I'd rather have FedEx run my healthcare than USPS.)
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To: kukaniloko

The item in question hardly addresses “being prepared to defend himself”. It’s a simple common camping tool, the single most important wilderness survival item, and he chose one entirely unsuitable for any alleged malicious purpose.

Again, IT’S NOT A WEAPON.


69 posted on 10/14/2009 1:33:22 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Mr. Obama, I will not join your plantation.)
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To: TNdandelion
From the school district's June 2007 policy regarding conducted on school property by students and visitors:

"...the possession or use of a weapon of any kind or any other objection [sic] that reasonably can be considered a weapon."

So, possessing an "objection" is an offense. QED: The dirty, smelly, leftist hippies running the school board have prohibited free speech, including "objections!" < /sarcasm>

70 posted on 10/14/2009 1:35:39 PM PDT by twister881
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To: UAConservative

The fact of his being an Eagle Scout likely makes him something close to persona non grata in his or in any public school and certainly someone the school board and NEA would not want going to West Point, or getting a job for that matter. Why is he in public school at all? Any kid with intelligence and a good moral character should be in private, parochial, or home school.


71 posted on 10/14/2009 1:39:10 PM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: sig226

When I was in 4th grade, when the teacher needed to cut something and couldn’t find her knife she asked one or another of the boys in the class to let her use his pocket knife for a second. There were always several responses.


72 posted on 10/14/2009 1:42:21 PM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: ctdonath2

I can’t help but recall the article 15 I received in the Army for possessing a knife in my barracks room that was not authorized. This kid learned a lesson here and he’s lucky he’s learning it before he gets to west point. What do you think would happen to him at west point if a similar disregard for the rules was demonstrated?


73 posted on 10/14/2009 2:00:15 PM PDT by RC one
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To: sig226

Yep, everyone carried a knife so they could play mumblypeg at recess. The good ole days.


74 posted on 10/14/2009 2:03:45 PM PDT by animal172 (Why doesn't affirmative action apply to the NBA or NFL?)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

It never goes away. The recipient may never hear about it again and if he investigates may find that there is “nothing there” but it will figure in future job applications and in who the police “suspect” and in government applications.


75 posted on 10/14/2009 2:15:18 PM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: sig226
Heck, the rifle team at my high school couldn't fit their .22s (kept in gun cases) inside the school lockers, so they carried them around from class-to-class on days they had practice. Unloaded, of course, but nobody felt threatened. No Dylans & Kliebolds — a different country then. And yes, all males were expected to have a pocket knife and a handkerchief on their persons.
76 posted on 10/14/2009 3:52:38 PM PDT by twister881
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To: animal172

i have read literary references to that and the only answer i got was, “it’s a game.”

how does one play mumbleypeg?

please enlighten me. thank you.


77 posted on 10/14/2009 6:08:00 PM PDT by sig226 (My President was President of the week at the Norwegian Slough Academy.)
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