Posted on 09/30/2009 7:21:57 PM PDT by blake6900
Nike has announced they've resigned Michael Vick to an advertising contract. You can tell them what you think of that by clicking here
It’s not a straw argument at all. We are discussing crimes, paying your debt to society, and then getting on with your life. We are just using a different crime as an example, the theory is the same.
Let’s use a different crime if you are uncomfortable with our example. If you owned a company and somebody embezzled money from you, got caught, went to prison and “paid their debt to society”. After his debt to society was paid would you hire that person back to handle your finances?
Another lousy comparison. That person doesn’t have to be hired to do your finances. He can be ruled out on incompetance.
How does dogfighting mean no longer allowed to play football? To no longer being allowed to be a veternarian or dogcatcher? Okay valid comparison.
Thank you for the voice of reason.....
I would think Nike would want to wait and see how he is going to develop after being away from the game for 2 years......
wow, i am really shocked.. Vick is one lucky SOB to get back on the ‘gravy train’.
He was competent enough to steal money out from underneath your nose. What does that say about you?
I didn’t say Vick should not be able to play football. I said he should not be rewarded by Nike. I stand by that statement.
It is most certainly a straw argument. To equate crimes of sexual deviancy with what Vick was tried, and convicted for, are TOTALLY unrelated. Do we sentence the first time shoplifter to the same jail sentence a convicted murderer should get? Why not? The crimes are not the same. Trying to draw a corollary between the most heinous of crimes and what Vick did time for is nonsense. Look, I’m not a fan of Vick; never have been, never will be. But, I do believe in the concept of second chances; the man did his time for his conviction...are we to believe the people who’ve done bad things and lived through the appropriate punishment are to be thrown on the ash-heap, with no chance of redemption/forgiveness? I refuse to accept that.
As an aside, all molesters and pedophiles should be shot by firing squad. A poorly-trained firing squad. So it takes a while. :-)
He tortured and killed dogs. Are there any standards anymore?
Wow. Well, you are well within your right to not buy Nike products. But do you want the government to step in and punish Nike for doing this?
I really don’t care. Chickens are raised in brutal conditions too. I still eat them, and by that purchase I financially benefit the people raising those chickens.
I bet you do to.
But if the shoplifter and the murderer both served their time, paid their debt to society and got out, under your argument are they not then equal at that point? Your argument being that once an offender has served his debt to society they should be allowed to resume their life as normal.
Not at all. I want government out of it. Nike did it, let them either succeed or fail on their own.
Very economical. It only took three posts to the truth.
You eat chicken??
Where are they on your “Species of Importance” rankings?
‘thanking them for not burying someone in the ground who already served their debt to society.’
23 months for torturing animals, does not mean he has paid his debt to society
Not paid his debt to you, maybe.
But as far as the laws of this country go, by the people, he has repaid his debt to society.
He’s clear on my book.
I’m not a member of the ‘dogs and cats are livestock’ crowd. I leave that to puppy mill breeders and their ilk.
Under the law (for the most part :-) ), that is indeed the case. For the most part. Again, it comes back to the issue of ‘severity’. The severity of the crime(s). Human beings, as we are, are always going to judge the actions of others based on their ‘severity’. I do it, you do it, we all do it.
Here’s the problem, as i see it....there are very many people who have an emotional component attached to Vick’s crimes...after all, most people at least like dogs. Me? I love them. let me ask you honestly tho...if Vick had been tried and convicted for abusing cockatiels, would there have been the huge outcry? Again, it goes back to severity.
I understand your position, FRiend. I do. I just think the young man has fulfilled the requirements the Fed imposed on him, and he should be allowed to resume his life as he knows it. BUT, I don’t think he should ever be allowed to own a dog. :-)
Wait...that may be a better rehabilitation than prison...not dogs, just a dog. :-) Anyway, thank you all for the intellectual bantering, and all thots are just my opinion and nothing more. Good night!
My comment: I’m extremely disappointed that Nike has decided to resign Michael Vick to an endorsement contract. Please know that I will not be purchasing any Nike products for the duration of this endorsement.
Whoever wrote this is a moron.
Give the names of any pro athletes convicted of domestic violence who have current endorsement contracts and I will contact those companies to express my displeasure and let them know I am boycotting their products.
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