Posted on 09/18/2009 9:52:39 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
Study links 45,000 U.S. deaths to lack of insurance Fri Sep 18, 2009 8:22am EDT
By Susan Heavey
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Nearly 45,000 people die in the United States each year -- one every 12 minutes -- in large part because they lack health insurance and can not get good care, Harvard Medical School researchers found in an analysis released on Thursday.
"We're losing more Americans every day because of inaction ... than drunk driving and homicide combined," Dr. David Himmelstein, a co-author of the study and an associate professor of medicine at Harvard, said in an interview with Reuters.
Overall, researchers said American adults age 64 and younger who lack health insurance have a 40 percent higher risk of death than those who have coverage.
The findings come amid a fierce debate over Democrats' efforts to reform the nation's $2.5 trillion U.S. healthcare industry by expanding coverage and reducing healthcare costs.
President Barack Obama's has made the overhaul a top domestic policy priority, but his plan has been besieged by critics and slowed by intense political battles in Congress, with the insurance and healthcare industries fighting some parts of the plan.
(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...
If there was ONE death because of lack of insurance that person’s death would be on the front page of EVERY newspaper in the country.
Lies, danm lies, statistics, and healthcare ‘studies’...
Could the results of the “study” be any more vague?
I agree
This is a crock of BS
people are stupid to confuse health insurance with health care.
Can anyone name someone who was denied health care? not even illegals
that means a higher number with government death panels...
Its true. Once obamacare is passed no one will die - ever.
Well that would mean that 11,000 minutes would solve the problem. About 180 hours.
First this demographic is pooer and I bet this demographic is much more likely to engage in behaviors that increase risk of death like drinking, smoking, or criminal behavior. Correlation does not imply causation.
1 a day verses an overall 6230 per day in the US.....
America has such a diverse population that these "deaths" come from certain groups more than the general groups.....illegals...new immigrants....gays...alcoholics...druggies....prostitutes...
I work with alcoholics and druggies....the offers are there for rehab and meds, but you can't make them go....
Sorry poor math. My very bad
So they’re saying that they can’t afford to see good doctors? Maybe we should look to see about revamping the standards to becoming a doctor since there seem to be so many deaths caused by them.
Oh, pish posh! Anyone can walk into an ER and under mandate of federal law they must be treated. Medicaid ad Medicare treats anyone financially unable to get insurance.
More than likely this Obama/ACORN "study" includes illegals and the mentally ill many of whom are have drug and alcohol issues on the street.
I thought Obama was so against scare tactics??
I would blame it on the decedants’ unwillingness to pay for their own healthcare.
LMAO!!
Stupid BS I ever heard. So, if they had health insurance would not the statistics be the same just the expire age would be older. What in the hell do these nut cases think that health insurance would eliminate death. Where do these nitwits come from. Whoops, I forgot, from our higher educational system.
“If there was ONE death because of lack of insurance that person’s death would be on the front page of EVERY newspaper in the country.”
Bingo! Ob0z0 and Cry Baby Peloshi the Drama Queen would be yelling about this 24/7.
The FLM aka the Fringe Lunatic Mediots would be screaming about it 24/7.
I wondered why I passed all these dead people lying on the roads, streets, sidewalks, hallways, office floors, as I came to work this mor....grgl.. gasp... ackkggh.... thump.
“Can anyone name someone who was denied health care?”
That’s not what the article is saying. It’s saying those that can’t afford coverage, and have to go somewhere like a clinic or ER, are getting lesser care....which is a load of crap.
This article is because Obama and his MSM allies have been called on what you said about confusing health care coverage and access to health care.
Now they’re going to claim those without insurance get terrible care....more scare tactics.
Wait a minute here. When a drug company funds a study, all hell breaks loose. This was funded by the Government by clearly an advocacy group in an on line journal. Was it peer reviewed? What were the basic questions asked? Are there any confounding variables they “forgot” to include? Was a multiple regresssion using multiple variables studied? Many other questions but it would take too long. Until they open themselves and their data to scrutiny, don’t believe a woed of the results! This is what I would expect of Goebbles!
Another stupid fake news story while they ignore the real news
By “inaction” the writer means the rest of us who aren’t acting to save these sick people. What about the inaction, along with bad decisions, poor morals and lack of discipline of many of those people. Subtract out those to see how many deserve our $100,000 helping hand.
How many of them would have died even if they had insurance?
Since his area of knowledge is problem big liberal city hospitals, how many of those who died were from drug use, alcohol abuse, gang slaying, stupid teenage stunts and Old Man Darwin weeding out the dumb and stupid.
No (answers most of your questions).
I think I must have forgot to put a /s/ after my post. Man you think I was government funded, not writing a complete post and all.
Check this professor’s Dem. contributions in last year’s election cycle. My bet is that 100% went to Dems and their causes. This “study” is a load of crappola.
I’m sure they are looking for some of these people who are dying every 12 minutes so they can die at an obama speech and help make his point
Has obama bought health insurance for his kenyan brothers?
***WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Nearly 45,000 people die in the United States each year — one every 12 minutes — in large part because they lack health insurance and can not get good care,****
I have known people who thought getting Insurance meant they were insured against getting sick.
Yep - and CNN would be doing interviews with all the grieving relatives - - and politicians (dems) - - who "care"....
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You will never, ever see a study of this sort for a country that already has socialized medicine. Why? Because letting people die because they can’t access care is a goal, not a problem.
Dust that article for prints. It has Rahm Emmanuel written all over it.
Isn’t it funny how they can be outraged over this but have no remorse at all for 1 unborn child being killed every “25 SECONDS” This is why they have no credibility when it comes to compassion for the innocent and helpless.
look at the carbon footprint we are saving.
You are right, it does try to say people without insurance get lesser care
I agree, it is BS. The study was done in 2000. I would like to see how the study was done but I doubt we ever will
The sad thing is the obamites will not understand the study and won’t ask questions. they will just nod
We would know the relatives of the deceased better than the great Dad, whose daughter threw away the foul ball he caught and handed to her, good news re the Dad of the year and his great little daughter.
Excellent question.
Was the study randomized and conducted with strict protocols?
Na! This is more like a wet dream created by Jayson Blair when he was the star writer for the NY Slimes.
The Harvard study, funded by a federal research grant, was published in the online edition of the American Journal of Public Health. It was released by Physicians for a National Health Program, which favors government-backed or "single-payer" health insurance.ding,ding,ding,ding,ding
Houston, we have an agenda.....
http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_detail.php?city=Cambridge&st=MA&last=Himmelstein
I guess that algore wasn't "progressive" enough for him.
Then why is Soylent Green so pricey at the Piggly Wiggly?
What a strange thing to say by people who WANT millions of elderly Americans to just die!
(Source: Senate Republican Conference, http://tinyurl.com/l2kt43 )
Looks like about 25 million of them are either eligible for employer or government-sponsored programs, but --- for whatever reason --- have chosen not to enroll, or have sufficient income to purchase a private plan, but have chosen not to.
So now the government is going to FORCE them into plans? Or what? Or, say they have a good plan but they nevr use it --- like my dear husband, say, who is insured but never goes to a doctor, and so has no idea if he has diabetes, or hypertension, or whatever --- are they now going to be forced to go to a doctor?
And the stattistics don't prove anything unless they are matched analyzed for lots of variables: the risk of different injuries and diseases in different job-categories, for starters.
For instance, is it just possible that young men in high-risk industries like construction (90% male) have higher rates of foregoing optional insurance AND higher rates of neglecting preventative medical care AND higher rates of workplace injuries, while women in professions like education and health care (75% female) have far higher rates of having insurance AND utilizing preventative care, WHILE having extremely low rates of workplace injury?
Whole lot of number-crunching going on. And I want to see the numbeers.
And they prove that how???
I suppose i could prove that 45000 die because they do not have access to Harvard medical Centers for free because they charge for their services.
If they REALLY cared, all of their work would be free.
The study also found that Obama has prevented 12 major earthquakes and discouraged an alien invasion.
My guess is that a lot of people die without health insurance.
But is that the reason they die? Or was their illness the reason they didn’t have health care? And would health insurance saved them?
The fact is that people die every day. Since 15% of the people don’t have health insurance, it stands to reason that 15% of those who die won’t have health insurance.
So the question is, how did they decide that these deaths were the result of not being able to get health care?
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