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Attempt to debunk Obama's Kenyan birth certificate debunked (Barry name change legal?)
Examiner.com ^ | August 5, 2009 | Geoff Linsley

Posted on 08/05/2009 6:30:17 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

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To: TheCipher

RASSMUSSEN HAS HIM AT -8 TODAY!!!!!!!


21 posted on 08/05/2009 7:00:14 AM PDT by nikos1121 (praying for -13)
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To: NRPM

The Orly B/C isn’t a forgery based on the Bomford B/C.

It might very well turn out to be a forgery - that’s why it need to be authenticated against the registry.

But its not a forgery just because somebody made their own fake.

Neither it is a forgery just because somebody else made a version with different letters and numbers.

And if a thousand gaywads from SomethingAwful make a thousand new forgeries tomorrow, each with its own spectacular backstory, that still doesn’t reflect on the authenticity or otherwise of the Orly B/C


22 posted on 08/05/2009 8:28:01 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Attorney Phil Berg announced in Oct. 2008 Soetoro/Obama was born in Mombasa, Kenya.

He was ignored.

Attorney Orly Taitz published a photograph of a birth registration showing Obama born in Mombasa, Kenya.

She was ridiculed.

It’s worth an investigation. It is likely Obama was born in Mombasa, Kenya.


23 posted on 08/05/2009 8:28:03 AM PDT by SvenMagnussen (Clever tagline can only be seen on the other internet.)
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To: NRPM

The Orly B/C isn’t a forgery based on the Bomford B/C.

It might very well turn out to be a forgery - that’s why it need to be authenticated against the registry.

But its not a forgery just because somebody made their own fake.

Neither it is a forgery just because somebody else made a version with different letters and numbers.

And if a thousand gaywads from SomethingAwful make a thousand new forgeries tomorrow, each with its own spectacular backstory, that still doesn’t reflect on the authenticity or otherwise of the Orly B/C


24 posted on 08/05/2009 8:28:09 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

One thing that may have passed by me (many things do...), but is there any evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham was pregnant?

On another thread, there was a fleeting mention of BHO being adopted, which would explain how some of the Hawaiian statements are worded.

Just checking all assumptions.


25 posted on 08/05/2009 8:33:47 AM PDT by Andy from Chapel Hill
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

This from article, “It started when Obama was caught using fake birth certificates with aliases like Barry Soetoro and Barry Dunham, which caused people to question who he was.”

When did this happen? If there are birth certificates with those names on it even the MSM would have to report that.

We knoe he had lied repeatedly and we know there is something he wants ketp hidden. I just hope people keep trying to find out.


26 posted on 08/05/2009 8:39:10 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

This from article, “It started when Obama was caught using fake birth certificates with aliases like Barry Soetoro and Barry Dunham, which caused people to question who he was.”

When did this happen? If there are birth certificates with those names on it even the MSM would have to report that.

We knoe he had lied repeatedly and we know there is something he wants ketp hidden. I just hope people keep trying to find out.


27 posted on 08/05/2009 8:40:19 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Great article. Way too early for dismissal. I believe there is a high likelihood this is genuine.
28 posted on 08/05/2009 8:45:37 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

A real moonbats are those who think it’s normal for an elected official to hide and lie about his past.


29 posted on 08/05/2009 8:51:42 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
When did Barry Soetoro legally change his name to Barack Obama?

This was something I was not aware of. Very good summary.
30 posted on 08/05/2009 9:10:04 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: TheCipher
People are missing the point on this one. It doesn't matter whether it is real or not. What we now have are two conflicting pieces of digital evidence ( Obamas COLB and the Kenyan BC ). The only way for the judge in CA to resolve this is to order discovery of the actual hard copies from Hawaii ( he can have the State Department request them from Kenya, but in all reality, they don't have to comply ). The main reason for producing this document now is to force production of the Hawaii BC.

Bingo! Exactly!!

31 posted on 08/05/2009 9:10:28 AM PDT by conservativegramma (Palin has my vote: whoever the media hates I love)
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To: ladyjane

hear hear!


32 posted on 08/05/2009 9:12:44 AM PDT by Tirian
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill
but is there any evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham was pregnant?

It is interesting to note that there are several accounts of BHO senior by friends, colleagues, and the like, and he never mentions his marriage to Stanley or child. However, the evidence of her friends in Seattle in 1961 (See Corsi's article on WND) is that Stanley TALKED about BHO Senior being the father of the child on several different occcasions.

Personally, I would like to believe that Frank Marshal is the father, but I have seen no evidence to support that. Also, when he first visited Kenya, he was pleasantly embraced by the Obama family and there are many Kenyans, including is aunt and half-brothers who clearly believe that they are related to him.

What I find interesting is that she got pregnant after allegedly knowing BHO senior for one month! However, there is a fair amount of evidence that Stanley's father had known BHO senior for a long time -- he apparently met him as he came off the boat in Hawaii! (Fred Nerks has posted about this.

What most people don't really seem to get is that the Dunham family were all rabid marxists/socialists for all their lives and that the people that they hung out with in Hawaii were all of this same ilk ("fellow travelers"). As far as I can tell, BHO junior has spent most of his like hanging out with these types of people -- Marshall and company in Hawaii, Pakistani friends at Occidental and Columbia, his recommendation to Harvard Law School by a known radical black activist, spending time as a "community organizer, belonging to Wright's afro-centric church. They say that birds of a feather flock together, and BHO junior seems to have spent most of his life hanging out with Marxist flocks.

33 posted on 08/05/2009 9:13:45 AM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

In Kalifornia it is perfectly legal (well it used to be) to just change your name. All you have to do is publish it in a legal journal of record. The kicker is that there “MUST BE NO INTENT TO DEFRAUD”.


34 posted on 08/05/2009 9:17:13 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit The law will be followed, dammit!)
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill
is there any evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham was pregnant?

Andrew Sullivan's lawyer on Line 2 -- something about plaigarizing his client's conspiracy-theory intellectual property....

35 posted on 08/05/2009 9:20:00 AM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent Design -- "A Wizard Did It")
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To: steve-b

I really don’t know what you are referring to. WE want the help of the courts and the State Dept. To determine whether or not this document is AUTHENTIC. IF it is, great. If not, we will have to eat Crow, but most of the birthers that I know have not vouched for it one way or the other. It is an open question untill any validation.

Are you afraid of a legitimate inquiry? If this thing is fake, it furthers the goal of delegitimizing the birthers. If real, well the SHTF, and this lying crypto-marxist demagogue will meet his Waterloo.


36 posted on 08/05/2009 9:32:37 AM PDT by DMZFrank
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill

We’re fairly certain he WAS adopted, by his stepfather Lolo Soetoro and became a citizen of Indonesia.


37 posted on 08/05/2009 9:41:24 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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“We’re fairly certain he WAS adopted, by his stepfather Lolo Soetoro and became a citizen of Indonesia.”


Unfortunately no adoption papers have yet emerged and when Lolo Soetoro registered Barry at St Francis di Assisi Catholic School in Jakarta, Indonesia in 1967, he listed Barry’s birth place and birth date as Honolulu, Hawaii,and August 4, 1961.
A minor born in the United States does not lose US citizenship. In order to lose US citizenship, an adult has to renounce their US citizenship by an act of renunciation such as surrendering a passport or voting in a foreign election.


38 posted on 08/05/2009 10:43:46 AM PDT by jamese777
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So...you believe that Øbama deserves -- and is Constitutionally qualfied -- to remain in our White House?
39 posted on 08/05/2009 12:15:18 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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To: TXnMA

So...you believe that Øbama deserves — and is Constitutionally qualfied — to remain in our White House?


I believe that.
In the America I know all persons including Presidents are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law by judge and/or jury.

The way to remove President Barack Hussein Obama II from the White House is to defeat him at the polls in 2012 or have him indicted by a Grand Jury for forgery or fraud, have him impeached by the House of Representatives then tried, convicted and removed from office by a trial in the US Senate. Either/or.


40 posted on 08/05/2009 12:35:32 PM PDT by jamese777
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