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State may cut federally funded health insurance for children
Ventura County Star ^ | June 7, 2009 | Tom Kisken

Posted on 06/07/2009 9:02:10 AM PDT by Lou Budvis

.... Misty Navarro, Thomas’ mother, makes $18 an hour as an office supervisor in a pediatric clinic. In Healthy Families, her premium is $12 a month. Without the program, she could cover her kids through her employer but it would cost $300 a month.

She doesn’t have the money. She will barely make the $750 a month rent for the Santa Paula town home the family is moving into thanks to a government housing program.

Essentially, she’d be uninsured, scrambling to find ways to continue the treatment Thomas gets to control his weight and minimize his risk of diabetes. If he needed two $1,200 CT scans like he did after jumping off a table when he was 3, she’d be cooked.

“You’re putting yourself in debt,” she said. “It’s awful to have medical bills.”

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The proposal is just that. Advocates expect Democratic legislative leaders to fight to keep at least part of the program but predict the possibility of significant cuts

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: budget; california; cuts
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To be brutally honest, Misty is morbidly obese and so is her child Thomas, hence the diabetes. So what Misty wants is the taxpayers to support her fat family whose medical problems are worsened, if not caused by their own failures to control themselves.
1 posted on 06/07/2009 9:02:10 AM PDT by Lou Budvis
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To: Lou Budvis

This woman makes over 37,000 per year.

She can pay for her own damn insurance.


2 posted on 06/07/2009 9:05:30 AM PDT by WackySam (The fact that there are 24 hours in a day, and 24 beers in a case, is not a coincidence.)
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To: WackySam

OH FOR GOSH SAKES!

I make 35,000 a year, pay 500 a mo for my families private health care, and pay a 900 a month mortgage. My family lives on my income and my wife works part time twice a week.

STOP COMPLAINING!


3 posted on 06/07/2009 9:20:09 AM PDT by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: WackySam
This woman makes over 37,000 per year. She can pay for her own damn insurance.

37K a year in California is borderline poverty. I seriously doubt that she can afford any comprehensive policy out there.

I made $60K or better for years as a small contractor out there, and still could never afford health insurance for my family.

That being said, I never got Big Brother to force my neighbors to subsidize my family's health care.

4 posted on 06/07/2009 9:20:10 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Lou Budvis

My husband and I pay over $300 a month for our insurance and I pay an additional $100 for medicare.
We live on a fixed retirement income which is lower than her income.
Why should she have state help when we don’t? We had to move out of CA because we couldn’t afford to live there. My kids all live there and I had to give up being close to them in order to live on our income.
Duh!! We all have had to make hard choices.


5 posted on 06/07/2009 9:20:50 AM PDT by IceAge
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To: WackySam

Where is Misty Navarro’s husband??? Did he die in a horrible accident?? Even if he is “out of the picture” he is still responsible for the kids health care.

Besides she certainly makes plenty of money to take care of her needs. I have made that same wage and less and supported a family of 6.

I hate broken families with a passion. Learn to pick your mate. Don’t hop on anything with two legs, that goes for both sexes.


6 posted on 06/07/2009 9:21:50 AM PDT by pennyfarmer (Your Socialist Beat our Liberal)
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To: Lou Budvis
She doesn’t have the money. She will barely make the $750 a month rent for the Santa Paula town home the family is moving into thanks to a government housing program.

Where's baby daddy? Oh that's right, the taxpayer is her husband.

7 posted on 06/07/2009 9:24:59 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Lou Budvis

She has subsidized housing as well. If her kid did not have TWO $1200 CAT scans? Unreal!

Other taxpayers should pay for endless freebies.

The libs chase away the two largest WEALTH creators in this country - manufacturing and energy production. These two things lead to the massive wealth the U.S. had starting from 1949 to around 1970 where the vast bulk of our wealth was created. We are living off of that and the game is pretty much over now.


8 posted on 06/07/2009 9:27:41 AM PDT by Frantzie
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To: Lou Budvis

The time to think about covering your children’s bills, is before you jump in the sack. Find a good man. Develop a relationship. Get married. Live together for a while. When the way is prepared, have kids.

You can’t afford their insurance? Well neither can I. So why are my fellow citizens and I having to pay for them?

You can’t afford their insurance. You can’t afford to house them.

Good grief lady, when it comes time to pay my bills, I can’t sob my way out of them.

Man up! Or Woman up, if you will...


9 posted on 06/07/2009 9:30:51 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama post 09/11. The U.S. is sorry, we are a Muslim nation, and we surrender.)
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To: Lou Budvis

I can’t afford health care insurance for children right now, therefore I haven’t created children of my own.

I can’t afford car insurance for a new Ferrari right now, therefore I haven’t bought myself a Ferrari.

I can’t afford a big house payment right now, therefore I haven’t bought a big new house.

I could go on....

Why do people think they deserve for other people to pay for their decisions?


10 posted on 06/07/2009 9:35:00 AM PDT by abishai
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To: WackySam
You weren't supposed to go that far away from he 'heart-tug strings'......imagine, actually using math and what not to consider a problem.

She's a USER, just like most of the USERs in that state. That's why they're 'effing' broke! Government assisted 'town home'? What else is 'government-assisted?'

Probably every aspect of her financial life is 'government-assisted' Screw her....Besides that, where's baby daddy?

11 posted on 06/07/2009 9:48:01 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Lou Budvis

The problem is that $12 a month she is paying is pretty much all she is paying. I had a friend change from govt. health insurance to private- she called to ask me what a deductible was, because she had never had one. While the rest of us might have co-pays or deductibles that discourage us from frequent unneeded visits, the people on govt. provided insurance do not.


12 posted on 06/07/2009 9:48:51 AM PDT by conservative cat (America, you have been PWNED!)
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To: Lou Budvis

This is exactly one of the reasons gov run health care is a bad idea. Playing ball with friends, going for walks, getting involved with many activities cost nothing. I bet she has money to buy the boy expensive game systems and plenty of snacks and such. I’m not a lightweight myself but this kind of whining makes me embarrassed for this lady.


13 posted on 06/07/2009 9:49:01 AM PDT by Maelstorm (There is nothing more pathetic than a Bureaucrat with no one who needs them.)
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To: Lou Budvis

Essentially, she’d be uninsured, scrambling to find ways to continue the treatment Thomas gets to control his weight and minimize his risk of diabetes. If he needed two $1,200 CT scans like he did after jumping off a table when he was 3, she’d be cooked.


Treatment to control weight? How bout getting up off the couch, turning off the TV and computer and going outside to get exercise—i.e. running, biking, swimming. Medication? Geez!!

Regarding the 2 $1,200 CT scans, With 3 kids, no CT scans—kids have had concussions from football, etc. Daughter in car accident—her car totaled ER did no CT scan. My kids fell out of trees, fell down stairs, fell off bikes, etc. but no CT scans. My daughter was in car when my car was rear-ended, totaled—her car seat flew straight up and I did take her in to be checked—I am really wondering a bout need for 2 CT scans—must of been a really tall table!!! Am I wrong about over use of CT scans?


14 posted on 06/07/2009 9:50:43 AM PDT by bushwon (If you think health care is expensive now, just wait till it is free PJ Orourke)
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To: Lou Budvis

Also if an event occurs where she needs help in a tragic event. I’m sure the community would help her. Why do people assume that the only way to deal with tragic circumstances and unpredictable expense is to rely on the government? I gladly help out friends and family in need on a regular basis. I will not enable them but I have no problem helping someone and there are a lot of Americans like me the only problem is that people don’t want to ask they want to take and not say thank you.


15 posted on 06/07/2009 9:53:49 AM PDT by Maelstorm (There is nothing more pathetic than a Bureaucrat with no one who needs them.)
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To: Lou Budvis
Misty Navarro, Thomas’ mother, makes $18 an hour as an office supervisor in a pediatric clinic. In Healthy Families, her premium is $12 a month. Without the program, she could cover her kids through her employer but it would cost $300 a month.

I know it extremely mean spirited and evil of me to suggest, but what if Misty cut out the cable bill, cell phone, trips to fast food places, brown bag it to work and maybe even get a small part time job she could afford the $75.00 a week to pay for her own health care.

Again, I apologize for being so cruel as to expect her to do what 99% of what a conservative would do, but life has became cruel, especially in the land of fruit and nuts where the financial rubber is meeting the road and leaving a huge skid mark

16 posted on 06/07/2009 9:54:48 AM PDT by Popman (Joe Biden REALLY can't be Vice President, can he ?)
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To: Lou Budvis

She has TWO kids with a different last name than hers. Presumably there’s a Mr. Bustos somewhere who should be contributing to his kids’ upkeep.

And the 11-yr old is HUGE! No wonder he’s diabetic. What is she feeding him?


17 posted on 06/07/2009 10:00:06 AM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (Obama promised a gold mine, but he will give us the shaft.)
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To: Maelstorm

“This is exactly one of the reasons gov run health care is a bad idea. Playing ball with friends, going for walks, getting involved with many activities cost nothing. I bet she has money to buy the boy expensive game systems and plenty of snacks and such. I’m not a lightweight myself but this kind of whining makes me embarrassed for this lady.”

Last night CBS did a cry piece on a woman who was struggling with her bills, about to lose her home. She had fake fingernails, died hair, trendy clothes and complained $484.00 in food stamps wasn’t enough to feed 5 of them. Nonsense! I manage to get by on $100 a month for food, but then I don’t get the food stamp handout.
These people simply don’t know how to manage their money.

And the woman in this article gets $18.00 an hour? She doesn’t know how to budget either.


18 posted on 06/07/2009 10:01:11 AM PDT by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: Lou Budvis

Let them get out in the yard and make a vegetable garden. They will get good exercise, grow healthy veggies, and improve their health as they take off the pounds. There is no pill on earth as beneficial as gardening.


19 posted on 06/07/2009 10:11:34 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Popman
No, it is not mean-spirited. It's is facing reality and being responsible.

What this woman should do is get the insurance from her employer, and she should look at that as her #1 or #2 bill every month (priority). That's being responsible. That's what the vast majority of Americans do, isn't it?

20 posted on 06/07/2009 10:12:23 AM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: AuntB

You could not be more right. They have all the money in the world for fancy hair, getting their nails done, and flashy clothes. I make a better than average salary but I shop at Wal-Mart and Target and I am frugal on my clothing. I almost never go to the doctor though my kids and my wife do. We live in an entitlement society and it is making people weak and incapable of taking care of themselves. We have a couple of friends who are younger, can not pay their bills, are as picky as hell and can’t cook for themselves. We’ve tried to help them but I have zero tolerance for silliness and will not enable them.

There is a time when everyone has to grow up and realize the difference between necessity and convenience.


21 posted on 06/07/2009 10:12:48 AM PDT by Maelstorm (There is nothing more pathetic than a Bureaucrat with no one who needs them.)
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To: Maelstorm; AuntB

I agree as well.


22 posted on 06/07/2009 10:13:33 AM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: Maelstorm; GOP_Lady

“There is a time when everyone has to grow up and realize the difference between necessity and convenience.”

Evidently not! Just us conservatives.


23 posted on 06/07/2009 10:17:09 AM PDT by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: AuntB

Yes, it’s evident, isn’t it?

I don’t go looking to ANYONE for ANYTHING. Now, that’s freedom and power.


24 posted on 06/07/2009 10:19:45 AM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: Lou Budvis

This is the emotion-dripping exception to the reality that drives the debate on just about any kind of tax increase/government expansion, or reform of government giveaways.

Misty is in a spot, therefore we all need to give up our health insurance choice and enslave ourselves in a system that will eventually case aside Misty and her kids as quickly as it will sacrifice anyone else under health care rationing.

Let’s do it for Misty.


25 posted on 06/07/2009 10:23:28 AM PDT by DPMD (~)
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To: GOP_Lady

“I don’t go looking to ANYONE for ANYTHING. Now, that’s freedom and power.”

Yes, Ma’am. Self reliance. An awesome thing! Kids should be reading Emerson instead of the lefty nonsense being pushed at them.


26 posted on 06/07/2009 10:25:27 AM PDT by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: WackySam
I usually support people's responsibility to pay their own way. YOU DON”T LIVE IN CALIFORNIA. I make $50,000 a year, my wife stays home with the kids. If I didn't have healthy families, I would have to pay $1000 a month for my family insurance. I pay 1500.00 for rent, 3.00 gas, and pay taxes up the wazoo, sometimes you can't pay your way.

Don't say why don't you leave California. I would, but my family is all here and to pick up and leave is not always an option. Before you complain, understand why things happen.

27 posted on 06/07/2009 10:27:02 AM PDT by kagoots (Soon we will envy the dead)
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To: Lou Budvis

I don’t know what making 2,880 dollars a month and can barely afford to make the 750 dollar rent payment....something is seriously wrong with this picture. I did not take taxes out of the 2880 dollars because she barely gets any out but to be fair I would bet she takes home 2,500 dollars a month and cannot easily pay 750 in RENT????????


28 posted on 06/07/2009 10:28:25 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: kagoots

MY KIDS BEFORE POLITICS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


29 posted on 06/07/2009 10:29:30 AM PDT by kagoots (Soon we will envy the dead)
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To: napscoordinator
You just don't get it. You actually think her only expense is rent. What about food, gas, electricity, insurance, utilities. You live in a Red State, you think the whole world should be like you. We live in Communist California, 2880 is nothing here.
30 posted on 06/07/2009 10:32:56 AM PDT by kagoots (Soon we will envy the dead)
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To: kagoots
I'm dying in bills here and all you people can complain she should have enough. You people are driving me nuts.
31 posted on 06/07/2009 10:35:40 AM PDT by kagoots (Soon we will envy the dead)
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To: kagoots

I understand she has other bills, but I would make paying rent the highest priority. The last thing you want is to lose the house. She gets foods stamps, government utility assistance and other bennies. I guess you are right, I am being hard on the lady...NOT!!!


32 posted on 06/07/2009 10:35:49 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator

You are correct.

1. Mortgage/Rent
2. Insurances

Prioritize


33 posted on 06/07/2009 10:38:31 AM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: Lou Budvis

These Sob Stories are always the same, they can’t make a living where they are.

So why don’t they move?

There are many other places where you can make nearly the same money for almost half the cost of living.

I remember I was talking to a lady in San Jose that was living with another person to cover their rent.

I went through her finances and showed her how moving to Washington State would save here about 40% of her income even though she would make a dollar less an hour.

These people don’t know how to make economic decisions, what they need is counseling and not a hand out. They need to move.


34 posted on 06/07/2009 10:39:27 AM PDT by dila813
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To: GOP_Lady
I don’t go looking to ANYONE for ANYTHING. Now, that’s freedom and power.

Are you independently wealthy? If not, then you are probably going to work M-F to earn a paycheck. If that is the case, then you are absolutely dependent on that job being available to earn the money. Your income is dependent on customers patronizing your business to provide cash flow.

35 posted on 06/07/2009 10:40:23 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

Let’s not parse too much now. :-)


36 posted on 06/07/2009 10:42:32 AM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: Moonman62

Today you can find adequate housing for less than $750/mo. I am sure she got something “nice” to live in so others can help pay her other bills.


37 posted on 06/07/2009 10:46:25 AM PDT by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: achilles2000
Where do you live? In Fresno, CA - where I live - this is what $855 will get you:

It's called the Vagabond Inn and it's in Downtown where all the hookers and crack whores live.

38 posted on 06/07/2009 10:58:15 AM PDT by TightyRighty (I enjoy well-mannered frivolity.)
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I understand she has other bills, but I would make paying rent the highest priority. The last thing you want is to lose the house. She gets foods stamps, government utility assistance and other bennies. I guess you are right, I am being hard on the lady...NOT!!!

Here's a story.

I know of some people who all work at a certain place. They all have the same job description but their individual duties vary slightly. All make about $48K a year.

Most of the people in this job description are female, but the males are married (with working wives). Only one (female) has younger children, one of whom is still a minor.

Almost everyone lives a frugal lifestyle, even the married ones. People bring their lunches, wear modest clothes, take public transit. Some of the single ones have roommates.

The female with younger children has a townhouse with a mortgage, an SUV, eats out a lot, always wears new clothes and shoes, and sends her son to a private school.

I always wondered how she did that.

She's never been married, and her children have different last names.

39 posted on 06/07/2009 10:59:55 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: TightyRighty

Here is a link to the 2007 rental cost data in Santa Paula, which is where she lives: http://www.city-data.com/housing/houses-Santa-Paula-California.html

Note that the mode was just over $600 for the rental data BEFORE the housing crisis collapsed the market (you have to scroll quite a ways). It is nice that she gets to live in a subsidized townhouse, but a small apartment or trailer would do - not as comfortably as the townhouse, I’m sure - but she hasn’t earned that level of comfort.

I used to live in CA (East Palo Alto,Pleasant Hill), but could see where it was going and left.


40 posted on 06/07/2009 11:17:32 AM PDT by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: TightyRighty

I made a mistake in the reply, I should have said that even during the boom there were plenty of rentals available in the $450-$650 range, not that the mode of the rentals was just over $600. Sorry for the confusion.


41 posted on 06/07/2009 11:24:10 AM PDT by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: GOP_Lady
....facing reality and being responsible.

Those words are not in the liberal lexicon

Liberals live in a fantasy world where government is responsible for you womb to tomb

42 posted on 06/07/2009 11:28:11 AM PDT by Popman (Joe Biden REALLY can't be Vice President, can he ?)
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To: kagoots
I lived in California for 34 years, since the age of 8, as did my husband. However, that didn't stop us from leaving the "Land of Milk & Honey" for saner pastures 13 years ago. We left our parents and siblings behind, and we survived. It CAN be done.

The only thing I miss about Cali is the ocean.

43 posted on 06/07/2009 11:39:45 AM PDT by Prince of Space ("Your weapons have no effect on me!")
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To: Lou Budvis

Apparently the insurance-paid “treatment” isn’t working — better try some “push-aways.”


44 posted on 06/07/2009 11:44:08 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: WackySam

Since the article stated “her family moved in” am I to assume she has a husband? If so , does he sit on his a@@ or does he bring in any money? Regardless of the abortion crowd, it does take a man to start the birth process.


45 posted on 06/07/2009 11:48:59 AM PDT by supermop (Somebody has to clean up the mess he will leave)
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To: bushwon

Back in 1982 I was awarded custody of my niece; as she was considered “a family of one” even though I had group insurance coverage she was issued a booklet of Medi-Cal stamps.

She what is commonly called “lazy-eye syndrome” and the doctors decided she needed corrective surgery.

When my wife admitted her for surgery at the hospital she handed over a stamp — on the day of release and discharge the clerk said they had no record of having gotten a stamp.

My wife cheerily peeled off a new one and handed it over; she said that was the first she had ever felt like a millionaire.


46 posted on 06/07/2009 11:52:56 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: kagoots

Careful, you may bruise your little fists and knees on that marble floor...


47 posted on 06/07/2009 11:59:29 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: kagoots

Reread first response — any swelling yet?


48 posted on 06/07/2009 12:00:32 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: kagoots

The first symptom of auto-induced stress is hyperventilation; slowly,... breathe in, breathe out, ummmmm... ummmmm...


49 posted on 06/07/2009 12:02:06 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: TightyRighty

That should save on taxi fares to get to the redlight district.


50 posted on 06/07/2009 12:04:03 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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