/sarc
Posted on 02/15/2009 6:20:54 PM PST by StopDemocratsDotCom
breaking...
I’m sure this was a free and fair election. Why, even Jimmy Carter will lend credibility to it.
Funds from China and Russia????
Not yet, but rumors are he will speak to the American people this week and deliver the following message in Spanish:
Mis conciudadanos,
Ahora que tenemos democracia plena testigo y la aceptación de la causa socialista es el momento de una decisión importante que no hacer la ligera. Con el socialismo cada vez más evidente en el mundo de América Latina y la inmigración ilegal en el lugar, junto con nuestro propio deseo para el control del gobierno, he llegado a la conclusión de que debemos tomar medidas ahora y declarar el español como idioma oficial del mundo. Es español que será el futuro del comercio, la política y la vida. Acostumbrarse a que América. En vigor desde el 1 de marzo de 2009, Inglés oficialmente ser removidos como la lengua oficial de los Estados Unidos. Gracias y buenas noches.
Don’t give Barry-O any ideas
However, in Venezuela's case, Chavez has been using the loads of oil money unwisely during good times, and now Venezuela is set for a hard landing. Chavez was a military leader, and will almost definitely use violence and force to stay in power if he deems it necessary. Furthermore, the presidential terms are to long if you're going to have unlimited reelection.
P.S. As way of explanation, I support authoritarian governments for developing countries (what some here derogatorily refer to as 'turd world countries'). But, if they have to have some sort of representative government, I think a parliamentary form of government is the best option for them. An American-style presidential system is too complex and unwieldy for them. That's why I consider the concept of unlimited reelected to not be entirely bad, although it would be better if Venezuela had a parliamentary system, and no Chavez, of course.
Any such speech would probably push for more socialism/communism in the Americas, and the world - I agree with you about that.
Independent polls have shown Chavez having the support of over half the Venezuelan population. Even if he's 'made sure' that he will win, he probably would have won in a fair vote as well.
The same goes for the Presidential election in the United States. I was surprised to see how many FReepers believe that voter fraud won Obama the election. There was probably fraud, but Obama would have most likely won even without it.
The Venezuelan and American people were by and large unwise in their vote, with or without vote rigging.
And by the way, all, not that it's any of your business, but I did not vote for Obama. Really. In case any of you wondered that because to you I appear Obamaphiliac.
If China is Nazi Germany, they're a Nazi Germany with FAR more potential than the Third Reich.
Defeating small, resource-poor Germany and Japan (and Italy) took the British Empire, the Soviet Empire, the largest economy (us), and China (lots of people).
China has mind-bogglingly more potential than World War II Germany and Japan combined.
As for the Great Depression repeating, a lot of people have said that that is cyclical, and that the last decade or two was the equivalent of the roaring '20s. So a new Depression was predicted for some time now; we just didn't know when it would hit.
Now that we have seen democracy and acceptance of the socialist cause is when an important decision that does not make lightly. With socialism is increasingly evident in the world of Latin America and illegal immigration on the rise, along with our own desire to control the government, I have concluded that we must take action now and declare Spanish as official language the world. Spanish is to be the future of commerce, politics and life. Getting used to America. In force since March 1, 2009, officially removed English as the official language of the United States. Thank you and goodnight.
Ed Asner, Martin Sheen, Will Farrel, and Danny Glover must be just thrilled these days.
LOL, so true...
Another election brought to you by ACORN!
Coming soon to a country near you....
Ballot boxes, stuffed or not, he won.
Was it a fair election?
The opposition has been gradually prohibited to the point where they had their hands tied behind their backs.
Germany 1933, Venezuela 2009.
History repeats itself...
A dictator is installed by voters.
The big difference is that Hitler never won an election in his life. Heck, I don't think he ever even ran for political office, if my memory serves me well. It was Gernam President Von Hindenberg who appointed Hitler as Chancellor of Germany, after the old man was subjugated to an all-night harrange by his pro-Nazi nephew. (or son, can't recall for certain.)
Who is with hugo in the lower left photo?
Naomi Campbell ...read somewhere she might be his main squeeze.
Nooooooo! I can’t believe it!!!
Who is that woman?
From John Edwards' official website:
"Danny Glover Campaigns for John Edwards"
Video at site!
http://www.johnedwards.com/media/video/glover/
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Miami group blasts John Edwards for working with Danny Glover
June 21, 2007
A Miami-based group called Independent Venezuelan American Citizens lambasted John Edwards for campaigning with actor Danny Glover.
http://www.miamiherald.com/460/story/146424.html
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From National Public Radio (NPR), August 29, 2006:
"Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has been visiting countries such as China, Iran and Russia as part of an effort to build a 'strategic alliance' of interests not beholden to the United States. He considers the United States his arch enemy.":
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5729764
His party got the most votes in the 1932 election for members of the Reichstag.
Hindenburg appointed Hitler Chancellor for that reason.
Then came the Reichstag fire and Hitler blamed Communists so he could put their party out of business. They competed for his voters.
A less free parliamentary election in 1933 that followed the fire increased the Nazi share of the Reichstag, then Hitler allied with Nationalists and had a majority in the parliament.
Step by step freedoms were eliminated and the various German state governments were legislated out of their powers by parliamentary votes in Berlin.
Chavez has been following a similar pattern in recent years by taking power away from mayors and governors.
Lots of people fought and won last time. They fudged the numbers to make it look close. It was a farce.
Have no idea what happened now but it probably is nothing short of outright fraud.
Some Venezuelan bloggers were watching the events last time. I viewed it and it was a bilingual website.
Will try to find it again. It’s a sad day for the proud people of Venezuela. Freedom may have been snuffed out permanently.
He kept repeating the vote until he got the outcome he wanted. And now “it has been decided by the people” and no more voting is necessary.
The 111th Congress already has H.R. #5 in the pipeline thanks to a Congress guy from NY. If Conservative Americans do not want to see a Chavez like populist in the WH in perpetuity, I suggest those who care stop whining in blogs and get politically active at the grass roots level until leftists no longer own the WH and both chambers of Congress. Otherwise you will all be complaining about a similar election result after two thirds of the States approve the Constitutional Amendment with the help of left wing voter fraud. BTW, I have been overseas for over three years watching what is happening back home with great discouragement; will be joining you soon.
Regards.
“Chavez wins vote to scrap term limits in Venezuela”
The way they are going here it may be coming to the USA too. A quote from that article by a woman “These people don’t realize what they have done,” sounds familiar.
Surprise, surprise. Free stuff from the government. Amerika is headed in that direction.
Now THAT was unexpected!
“It’s not the people who vote that count. It’s the people who count the votes.” (Josef Stalin)
“And the people who count the voters”-Obama (census 2010)
Can’s say as I’m surprised, but I am still disappointed. The recent rallies and the attempted ‘visit’ of Walesa gave me some hope.
The MSM would talk about talk about how FDR had three terms and that this was perfectly OK prior to Roosevelt. They may even argue that "Dire" economic situation requires suspension of elections.
That's pretty much it in a nutshell.
The bill has already been introduced in the House. Again. The difference is that this time around it might pass.
Wow. You are wrong on all points.
You are thinking weak countries need strong leaders to become stronger. Wrong. Strong political leaders make weak countries. These countries are weak because they are corrupt, they are corrupt because the leaders have too much power. If you want a strong country, give that country the kind of weak central govt the USA had, and it will THRIVE.
It is even more important for term limits for Presidents, to stop precisely the abuse the Chavez is engaging in, destroying democracy through power on incumbency, and limited govt for these countries than for advanced nations.
US system is superior because it divides legislative and executive powers. The more divisions of power, the better for the people, while at the same time a singular executive ensures unity in executive action where needed.
USA had many unforgettable presidents when it was a developing nation. They served us well.
Have any international observers said there was fraud?
Independent polls have shown Chavez having the support of over half the Venezuelan population. Even if he’s ‘made sure’ that he will win, he probably would have won in a fair vote as well.
The same goes for the Presidential election in the United States. I was surprised to see how many FReepers believe that voter fraud won Obama the election. There was probably fraud, but Obama would have most likely won even without it.
The Venezuelan and American people were by and large unwise in their vote, with or without vote rigging.
You’re right. Electoral democracy has always been one of the easiest paths for communists to achieve power.
all you have to do is promise to give them stuff for free.
I’m sure this was a completely lawful election, too! No way Chavez would use intimidation tactics, stuff the ballot boxes, etc... /s
`The twenty-second article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed.'.
*sigh* Should have known.
I agree. The happenings are ominous, like some alignment of seeming separate events pointing towards an even bigger event.
I’m not superstitious nor am I particularly religious but I am more than a little uncomfortable about the similarities between Biblical writings and other foretellings and what I see happening and advancing on an almost daily basis.
Oh, HELL, NO!!!!
Hitler ran for President of Germany in 1932, losing to von Hindenburg.
Jimmuh Cartuh there to legitimize this travesty?
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