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Obama Leads By Four in Pennsylvania - Ras poll. 51-47 Obama. Obama only getting 75% of Dems!
Rasmussen Reports ^ | 11/1/2008 | Scott Rasmussen

Posted on 11/01/2008 5:07:01 AM PDT by vwatto

Election 2008: Pennsylvania Presidential Election Obama Leads By Four in Pennsylvania

Saturday, November 01, 2008

In Pennsylvania, John McCain is getting closer, but Barack Obama is still attracting a majority of voters.

The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of voters in the state shows Obama with 51% of the vote while McCain picks up 47%. That four-point advantage for Obama is down from a seven-point margin earlier in the week and a 13-point advantage for Obama earlier in the month.

Just 75% of Pennsylvania Democrats now support their party’s nominee, down from 86% in the previous survey. Obama is doing a bit better among unaffiliated voters while Republican support for McCain remains steady (see crosstabs).

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: mccain; obama
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To: Evil Slayer

I agree with you in prayer and add “Amen”.


61 posted on 11/01/2008 5:49:26 AM PDT by Salamander (http://theuniversalseduction.com/articles/?c=Obama)
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To: rightwingextremist1776

I drive 41 miles one way every day on the SW quadrant of I 285 in Atlanta. That area is 98% African American. The lack of bumper stickers Obama or McCain is amazing. In my 20 years here I have never seen an election like this. I have no idea who will win, but this is very different.

I suspect people are worried about vandalism.

Conservatives don’t like McCain (like me) but have a detestment and fear of Obama.

Could this observation also have some carry over to polling?

I don’t know.

But I do think voters are keeping their deep feelings to themselves.


62 posted on 11/01/2008 5:50:07 AM PDT by KCengineer ( Speaking the TRUTH)
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To: NavVet
Don’t count those racist rednecks out yet. With the way polls oversample DEMS, a 4 point gap in Bambi’s favor probably means a 5 point McCain advantage.

McCain is winning since Obama is only getting 75% of his base!

What people have to stop doing is merely looking at the 'D' vs the 'R' and remember that Obama had to get a massive youth turnout to offset the Hillary loses, which he is not getting.

63 posted on 11/01/2008 5:50:20 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (O earth, earth, earth, hear the word of the Lord-(Jer.22:29))
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To: fortheDeclaration

PA could be an outlier though due to the guns and religion issue. Maybe its the worst case number for Hussein for any state.


64 posted on 11/01/2008 5:50:34 AM PDT by Swanks
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To: Hones
But KDKA radio just said it was a double digit lead in PA and a McCain comeback was impossible.

Not if 20-25% of Democrats are voting for McCain!

65 posted on 11/01/2008 5:51:30 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (O earth, earth, earth, hear the word of the Lord-(Jer.22:29))
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To: itsthejourney

We can cross our fingers, but I’m afraid it’s a little to late to change PA.

I live in the Philly suburbs and work downtown.  I think McCain has a real chance here.  Obama needs to carry Philly big in order to win, but he is going to have trouble with the ethnic blue collar white vote there.  They are Dems, but usually vote against the black Dem mayoral candidates such as John Street.

Philly is a racially polarized city and I don't think Obama is going to carry it overwhelming as he needs to.

66 posted on 11/01/2008 5:51:47 AM PDT by Asceticon
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To: Evil Slayer

You are right. Did you see the flabbergasted face of Pat Caddell on Hannity the other night? When he found out Bill Ayers dedicated his book to Sirhan Sirhan.

They can throw out the “Ayers is no big deal, just a hippie hero” or even convince themselves that Obama wasn’t even that close (even though he ‘bumped into’ him alot it seems) to Ayers. But surely even this blatant socialism and calling those who don’t want to pay high taxes selfish has shaken just a few. Hopefully that will override the “cool factor” of voting for Obama.


67 posted on 11/01/2008 5:51:57 AM PDT by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: jmaroneps37
I don’t care WHAT the top number says: If either man is getting only 75% of his base he can’t win.

Exactly!

And the poll states that McCain is holding his base.

So, the real point of the article isn't the pt spread, it is Obama losing 25% of his own base!

68 posted on 11/01/2008 5:54:53 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (O earth, earth, earth, hear the word of the Lord-(Jer.22:29))
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To: jmaroneps37

>This means lots of Republicans are voting Obama which is very unlikely.

I know a former Pennsylvania Legislator who’s an R - he is supporting Obama. I suspect a lot of the R’s up there are Liberals / RINOS.

That being said, McCain should appeal to a good number of them and win the state!


69 posted on 11/01/2008 5:55:10 AM PDT by o2bfree
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To: KCengineer
I agree...many books will be written about this election when all is said and done...the anecdotal indications are chock full contradictions....
70 posted on 11/01/2008 5:57:03 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: Salamander

“Whatever the case, I’m overjoyed that I no longer have that irritated wave of nausea while passing it on the way to town.”

Oh my gosh, I thought that was just me and my silly self!

I see this one house that is covered up with Obama signs and I just get an ugh feeling. Wouldn’t bother anything of theirs or even confront them in any way, but just feel ugh.

The more they put Obama stuff up, the more I think they are egging on McCain supporters. That is how it seems to me. Like they are waving and jumping up and down and wanting attention to be confrontational. The fact that they keep adding lets me know that *my* side is behaving and I’m proud of them for that.


71 posted on 11/01/2008 5:58:57 AM PDT by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: Salamander

I just came back from a meeting of the Catholic Medical Association in “Balmer” (sic). I had spent several months there in 1983 for some additional training in forensic medicine with a national expert. I must say I don’t care much for the city any longer. But I did like the western part of the state. I can’t say I’ve ever been out as far west as Cumberland though. Is that your area?


72 posted on 11/01/2008 5:59:32 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: KCengineer

Brother, a McCain sticker on your vehicle in Atlanta can cost you your job. Who knows if a “pollster” who calls your home isn’t your Obama-supporting supervisor’s spouse?


73 posted on 11/01/2008 5:59:45 AM PDT by Crawdad
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To: devere

Well done!


74 posted on 11/01/2008 6:00:59 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: cdga5for4

Yes this whisper thing is happening everywhere - that is why I’m dumbfounded by the polls this election. I was having dinner with two guy co-workers who live in California (one from LA and the other SF) and this exact same thing happened. Once it came out that we were all McCain supporters, we were all relieved and had a great conversation. And both are/were Democrats.


75 posted on 11/01/2008 6:02:01 AM PDT by swingstate_voter
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To: o2bfree

Sugar-coated poison?


76 posted on 11/01/2008 6:04:20 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: GoSarah

Are you speaking specifically about his PA poll, or generically nationally? Cause we all already know about what he does with his national poll. Please be more specific, thanx.


77 posted on 11/01/2008 6:06:36 AM PDT by SaintDismas (Starting to regret the handle I chose for this forum)
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To: itsthejourney

Troll? Member since May 22 2008.

Have you voted. Its not over until 7pm Tuesday night.

Then we count the votes.


78 posted on 11/01/2008 6:10:47 AM PDT by Bailee
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To: NavVet

The pollsters are being set up by ACORN. ACORN and its partners went into the battle ground states and registered hundreds of thousands of fake Democrats. The object was to make the polls greatly favor Obama.

How?

The pollsters poll a valid sample of Democrats to deterimine the turnout rate and the percent voting for Obama and the precent voting for McCain.

They then take the Democrat turnout rate times the number of registered democrats to get the total number of Democrat votes. Then they take the percent voting for Obama times the democratic turn out and that gives them the Obama vote.
If there are lots of fake Democrat Registrations then the poll shows that Obama is getting a lot more votes

But if there are hundreds of thousand of fake Democrats registered, then the Obama vote will calculate much higher than it actually will be.

Thus getting 75 percent of the calculated Democratic vote in 2008 would be a larger number than 90 percent of the actual cemocratic vote in 2004. The pollsters are actually counting the fake democrats as real voters.

But if those hundreds of thousands of fake registrations are not voted then Obama loses PA.

I believe the ACORN goal was to make Obama look like the sure winner. The one way to screw the polls is to have far more democrat names on the registration books than there are Republicans.

Fake Registered Democrats make Obama look far better in the polls than he will do.


79 posted on 11/01/2008 6:13:22 AM PDT by Common Tator
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To: fortheDeclaration

This Rasmussen poll is a mess. He has AA voters shifing from 92-8 Obama to 80-20 Obama in a week. Does ANYone here REALLY think McCain is going to get TWENTY PERCENT of the PA AA vote? This is why the “Democratic” support for Obama tanked in the poll. And it makes me VERY unsure about the “closing” in the past few days.


80 posted on 11/01/2008 6:13:38 AM PDT by PropMan
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