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GOP internal polling ... McCain landslide? (grain of salt / feel good alert)
Quinn and Rose Radio Show

Posted on 10/31/2008 4:52:28 AM PDT by The G Man

A regular caller to the Quinn and Rose radio program, "Carl from Ohio," who claims to be involved in the McCain campaign's internal polling operation (I know, I know ...), says that unless the Obama fraud is so widespread it will be a McCain landslide.

Here is what he says the GOP internal state by state polling is showing for last night:

NJ M - 48, O - 43, U-7
MI M - 44, O- 42, U - 10
CA O - 44, M - 43, Barr - 3, U - 9
PA M - 55, O - 33, U - 10

He says undecideds are breaking 4:1 for McCain.

In Pennsylvania, the Dem vote is O - 47, M - 37, U - 13

#1 issue for Dems voting for McCain is the that Obama is cheating and trying to buy the election


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Passing this along to give folks a boost. As the title suggests, take it with a grain of salt, but Carl from Ohio is a frequent caller and Quinn always pays him deference.

Mods - Posting this in "Breaking News" for morale purposes. Remove as you see fit

1 posted on 10/31/2008 4:52:28 AM PDT by The G Man
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To: The G Man

That seems too good to be true.


2 posted on 10/31/2008 4:53:42 AM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: The G Man
CA O - 44, M - 43

CA = Canada?

3 posted on 10/31/2008 4:53:53 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: The G Man

Well, I sure would like to think this is true... but come on... McCain up in NJ?!?


4 posted on 10/31/2008 4:53:56 AM PDT by Zeddicus
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To: Mojave

I wish.


5 posted on 10/31/2008 4:55:06 AM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: The G Man

I said a week or so ago that I would not be surprised to see Mac take N.J. & NY.


6 posted on 10/31/2008 4:55:18 AM PDT by Tribune7 (Obama wants to put the same crowd that ran Fannie Mae in charge of health care)
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To: The G Man
It's as unbelievable as Zogby. Trust me, if Colorado in the McCain list we will win for sure.
7 posted on 10/31/2008 4:55:31 AM PDT by tomymind
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To: Zeddicus

I know. I think I put all the proper “reservation of rights” type language into my post. Take it for whatever it’s worth.


8 posted on 10/31/2008 4:55:35 AM PDT by The G Man (The NY Times did "great harm to the United States" - President George W. Bush 6/26/06)
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To: The G Man

, “Carl from Ohio,” who ....

Rove, you magnificent caller!


9 posted on 10/31/2008 4:55:42 AM PDT by Hang'emAll
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To: Mojave

Funny!


10 posted on 10/31/2008 4:55:51 AM PDT by tomymind
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To: The G Man

We need encouragement, but this is more like Bullsh*t.
lol
NJ, and MI are not close at all let alone McCain winning.
CA will go from Obama by over 5%.

Let’s be positive, but let’s be realistic.


11 posted on 10/31/2008 4:56:59 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: tomymind

bttt


12 posted on 10/31/2008 4:57:09 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (Obama is the Democrats guy. They bought the ticket, now they must take the ride.)
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To: Zeddicus

in NJ?

Yes, this poll does not include felons’ and deads’ votes.


13 posted on 10/31/2008 4:57:12 AM PDT by tomymind
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To: The G Man

I would love to believe this, but I can’t. I think “Carl” must be smoking some good stuff.


14 posted on 10/31/2008 4:58:17 AM PDT by woweeitsme
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To: The G Man

I’ll believe it when I see it.


15 posted on 10/31/2008 4:58:46 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Reagan-1976 Palin-2008)
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Obama Boiler Room at work.


16 posted on 10/31/2008 4:58:57 AM PDT by freeplancer (McCain Voters Catch the Lobsters-Obama Voters Eat Them)
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To: ConservativeMan55; Hang'emAll

17 posted on 10/31/2008 4:59:09 AM PDT by tomymind
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To: The G Man

I’ve gotten to the point where I am going to absolutely ignore everything over the next few days.

I am not going to wonder what is real or what isn’t real.

It appears everything AND the kitchen sink is being thrown at us.

Up until this week they tried to manipulate us by depressing us. This was supposed to supress our vote.

I suspect the latest tactic is to make us feel comfortable about a McCain victory to make us complacent. Again - to supress our vote.

We cannot control all the crazy things people are saying.

The only thing we can control is our vote, and doing our best to be persuasive with our friends and family.


18 posted on 10/31/2008 4:59:11 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Tribune7

Yeah I’m from Jersey... I wouldn’t be surprised either. But I’ve seen stranger things happen. Don’t know if you know this but NJ is like a magnet, opposite at both ends, north and south.


19 posted on 10/31/2008 5:00:14 AM PDT by YoungHickey ("Those who say it can't be done should not interupt those doing it.")
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To: The G Man

PA M - 55, O - 33, U - 10

These are nice numbers but I find it hard to believe that in PA Mac is beating O at a 5/3 clip. Maybe 5/4 but 5/3? Naah.


20 posted on 10/31/2008 5:01:57 AM PDT by princeofdarkness (Ronald Reagan- "Trust But Verify" MSM- "Report, Lie, Then Crucify")
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To: The G Man
This Carl?
21 posted on 10/31/2008 5:03:29 AM PDT by arichtaxpayer (We will not tire, we will not falter, and we will not fail.)
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To: The G Man

I predicted a similar Pennsylvania number last night:

Strategic Vision Pennsylvania Poll: 049%, McCain 44%
Friday, October 31, 2008 3:24:26 AM · 5 of 17
2ndDivisionVet to Chet 99
I’d bet the real numbers are more like McCain 58%, Obama 36% with the rest undecided. Everyone I talk to in Pennsylvania assures me that McCain will win BIG.

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2120497/posts


22 posted on 10/31/2008 5:03:34 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Barack Obama: In Error and arrogant -- he's errogant!)
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To: The G Man

That simply is not true. If internal polls were like that you’d see McCain outside of red states + PA to put pressure on Obama. And they wouldn’t be sending Palin to Indiana to try to secure things, if McCain is up in all those states then he’s up double digits in Indiana.

All you need to know about internal polls is to watch where the candidates are appearing. That will tell you what those polls are really saying. The caller was yanking everyone’s chain.


23 posted on 10/31/2008 5:04:19 AM PDT by Numbers Guy
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To: The G Man

it’s worth crap, but if it makes you feel better...


24 posted on 10/31/2008 5:07:27 AM PDT by conservative_guyz
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To: The G Man
MI M - 44, O- 42, U - 10

So McCain pulled out of Michigan because he was so far ... ahead?

25 posted on 10/31/2008 5:07:29 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: truthfreedom

We can only hope and pray at this point. But my uncle, a teacher from WI, who detests Bush, tends to favor Dems and hates conservatives, is hard-core anti-Obama this cycle. Biggest question in my mind is if the PUMA thing is for real. If it is, the liberal pollsters and MSM have every reason to cover it up. We’ll find out on Tuesday.


26 posted on 10/31/2008 5:07:37 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo (Barney Frank is a Fannie bandit.)
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To: Zeddicus; The G Man
...McCain up in NJ?!?

FWIW, below are the 2004 NJ Presidential Election Results

Hanoi John Kerry - 52.92%
George W. Bush - 46.24%

Source - http://www.uselectionatlas.org/

27 posted on 10/31/2008 5:07:53 AM PDT by AmericaOne (Sneaking In is NOT Immigration!!!)
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To: snarkytart

I’m 10,000 miles away and I can smell the BS from here.

If McCain wins NJ I will personally ask the Pope to make him a saint since he would have performed millions of miracles in one day.


28 posted on 10/31/2008 5:10:28 AM PDT by Dundee (They gave up all their tomorrows for our today's.)
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To: The G Man

http://www.wwltv.com/topstories/stories/wwl103008tppoll.1644da2c1.html

Polls make me sick.


29 posted on 10/31/2008 5:10:47 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: tomymind

If it ends up taking the media longer than normal to start calling states, then we will know it is a good night for Mac. If they wait a long time to call PA, then Mac wins it.


30 posted on 10/31/2008 5:11:11 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo (Barney Frank is a Fannie bandit.)
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To: The G Man
I do beleive that this whole campaign has been about Obama all along. McCain just happens to be running too.

Having said that, all those undecideds out there are proof that people still feel that the change Obama will bring is not going to be good change.

Not surprised that the undecideds will break for McCain and hopefully save us from a 4 year disaster worse than Carter.

31 posted on 10/31/2008 5:12:18 AM PDT by libs_kma (NOBAMA. Keep the change)
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To: The G Man

This is all true. I believe.


32 posted on 10/31/2008 5:15:21 AM PDT by Rumierules
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To: snarkytart
If Pa is doable, so is NJ.
33 posted on 10/31/2008 5:15:33 AM PDT by Perdogg (Raila Amollo Odinga - community organizer)
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To: arichtaxpayer

Probably Karl from the Simpsons. We all know he is a black Republican. Lenny OTOH is in the tank for Zero this cycle.


34 posted on 10/31/2008 5:15:51 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo (Barney Frank is a Fannie bandit.)
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To: The G Man
It's possible. There could be a very big and very silent, "silent majority" out there.

People are afraid of being "plumbered."

Here, near Worcester, MA, I've counted more McCain signs than Obama signs, believe it or not.

____________________________________________________________________

Dear God, deliver us from this evil. Amen.

35 posted on 10/31/2008 5:16:09 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: Numbers Guy
AAll you need to know about internal polls is to watch where the candidates are appearing.

That's exactly correct. Some stoopid ASU poll came out yesterday and showed OBamBam tied with McCain here in Arizona, and the local Dem dyke guv was prolly swinging from the 9th floor chandelier with glee, since she endorsed ONoBam and is angling for a cabinet post.

However, when JD Hayworth (now back to talk show broadcasting) came on in the afternoon, he pointed out two things. One, the poll methodology was flawed, in that it was done on the weekend (a no no), and two: If it was truly tied here, both candidates would be coming here -- McCain to save his home state, and OBozo to embarrass McCain by stealing his home state. And after all, 10 electoral votes ain't nothin'

Neither candidates or the VP candidates has set foot in Arizona, so that tells you that internal polling is showing both campaigns that AZ is securely in the McCain column.

36 posted on 10/31/2008 5:16:18 AM PDT by webschooner
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To: Chet 99; DesertRhino; ExTexasRedhead; Frantzie; GOP_Lady; HamiltonJay; impeachedrapist; ...

ping


37 posted on 10/31/2008 5:17:29 AM PDT by Perdogg (Raila Amollo Odinga - community organizer)
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To: conservative_guyz
if it makes you feel better...

Shouldn't that be "us", newbie (10-24-08)?!?!

38 posted on 10/31/2008 5:18:15 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: Thane_Banquo

WI anecdote:

I was told Tuesday that the old hippies and rich progressives here in rural SW WI, which has gone Dem since Clinton (we are in that solid blue strip along the Mississippi River)are voting Nader, staying home or voting McCain. I was told by someone else that when the Wright video came out, the reaction of the hate Bush crowd was “He’s (zerO) screwed”. Both sources for this information are sane Dems who have daily contact with the loons.

If the East side of the River goes for Mac, then there is a chance he wins IA, too, on the West side. Eastern IA is more liberal than Western IA.

This reminds me of Reagan’s win over Carter. I was without media, except for radio, back then, there was no Internet for folks like us and at first, no one believed it.


39 posted on 10/31/2008 5:18:25 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: The G Man

being positive and upbeat is one thing but let’s keep it steeped in reality! Come on - NJ??

Let’s keep our credibility intact here at FR.


40 posted on 10/31/2008 5:18:51 AM PDT by zwerni (*** PALIN/mccain 2008 ***)
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To: Mr. Brightside

MI M - 44, O- 42, U - 10
So McCain pulled out of Michigan because he was so far ... ahead?

__________________________________________________________

Well, GOP PACS are up there now including the Rev. Wright ads. These could be having an effect.


41 posted on 10/31/2008 5:19:57 AM PDT by TMA62 (TMA62)
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To: Thane_Banquo

Oh, I think McCain will win PA, but not by 22%.


42 posted on 10/31/2008 5:21:07 AM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: Numbers Guy

So where is Mac appearing on Monday? We know that Sarah and Barry will be in Iowa.


43 posted on 10/31/2008 5:21:14 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: The G Man

I don’t know how to look at these......probably with a grain of salt.

BUT.......when you consider the amount of rep absentee ballots are very high and leading in some states (only down 1000 in CA), the exit polling in Isreal, the jittery dems and the MSM, I have a sneaking suspicion that it on-the-ground polls in states are rather different that what are are being told by the MSM.


44 posted on 10/31/2008 5:24:51 AM PDT by TMA62 (TMA62)
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To: snarkytart

“Let’s be positive, but let’s be realistic.”

Realistic? What is “realistic” about this election? I find it more than surreal.

I’d not be at all surprised to see a sudden outbreak of common sense occur across America. NObama is so far out of the mainstream he SHOULD have no chance, in NJ, CA or anywhere else! It is only with record-breaking dollars and a totally complicit media that he’s come this close!

We must get the reality of a McCain victory in the minds of the people. NObama and his minions are aggressively pushing the idea that he’s already won, no real need for Republicans to get to the polls Tuesday.

GET OUT THE VOTE!

McCain/Palin ‘08!


45 posted on 10/31/2008 5:24:52 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: The G Man

McCain’s saving the best of the campaign until near the end. Soon the GOP will release the BIG GUNS to tour the country and make speeches on how the GOP’s policies can improve our nation’s economy. Look for Romney, Arnold, Rudy, Newt, Fred Thompson and the BIG GUNS to be touring the nation making speeches in key states.


46 posted on 10/31/2008 5:25:01 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.youtube.com/cafenetamerica)
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To: reformedliberal

I don’t believe that any hippy or “rich progressive” would vote for anyone but Obama.


47 posted on 10/31/2008 5:25:39 AM PDT by dinoparty
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To: The G Man
That would be quite...remarkable.

If this country was what it was 20 years ago that is exactly what the results would be. If McCain was not only to win, but to win in a landslide of Reaganesque proportions the Liberal Media and polling outfits would be thoroughly discredited.

Obama's "victory" party would rather interesting as well. I don't think his supporters would take such a loss well. In the aftermath of it they might have to rewrite that old 1970's song, "The Night Chicago Died"...

48 posted on 10/31/2008 5:26:09 AM PDT by apillar
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To: Zeddicus
Well, I sure would like to think this is true... but come on... McCain up in NJ?!?

I'd believe the numbers if it was a poll of registered Republicans in New Jersey.

49 posted on 10/31/2008 5:26:50 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Thane_Banquo
But my uncle, a teacher from WI, who detests Bush, tends to favor Dems and hates conservatives, is hard-core anti-Obama this cycle

Freeper after Freeper after Freeper has been reporting that same exact story. If think it's simply impossible that A) Everyone is lying or B) its just some weird phenomena that is only occurring with people that Freepers know.

PEOPLE WILL BE SHOCKED AT THE RESULTS. 1994 Middle America results!!! The only thing that will be different is that this time, we're starting 25 meters back from the starting line, in a 100 meter race. BUT WE WILL STILL WIN!

50 posted on 10/31/2008 5:27:37 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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