Posted on 10/17/2008 1:12:35 PM PDT by pabianice
Obama is talking to gun owners -- and they're listening
By Ray Schoenke at October 14, 2008 - 11:00am
I was in Florida over the weekend campaigning for Obama. I'm impressed with the way the Obama campaign will not cede any vote to McCain. This is the first time any Democratic presidential campaign has so aggressively fought for gun owners. I think it's working - and it's throwing the GOP-controlled NRA for a loop.
I like this headline from the Daytona Beach News-Journal: "Obama, McCain lining up gun groups"
Obama is actually lining up gun voters, which is most important. Wherever I go, I'm finding gun owners are open to Obama. This year, we're not being duped by the NRA's aggressively pro-GOP spin. That loyalty to the Republicans hasn't gotten gun owners much. Our environment is in danger and the economy in crisis. The NRA's leaders don't look beyond their own narrow self-interests.
I'm also very glad to see more Democratic leaders speaking out on this issue. Last week, Ohio Governor Ted Strickland delivered the message in Southern Ohio:
"There is probably no governor, I would say, in the United States of America, who has a stronger, better record in the support of the Second Amendment than does Governor Ted Strickland and I'm proud of that," Strickland told a rally in Chillicothe as he warmed up the crowd ahead of a speech by Obama.
Strickland, whose battleground state is a focus of intensive campaigning by Obama and Republican John McCain, said he spoke directly to Obama about the right to bear arms in the Second Amendment.
"If you are a sportsman, if you are a gun owner, if you are someone that honors and respects the Second Amendment, you have nothing to fear from Barack Obama," the Democratic governor said at a rally in the rural southern part of his state.
Governor Strickland is absolutely right. We're making progress -- Democrats are talking to gun owners and gun owners are listening. I've been campaigning for Obama myself in Southern Ohio so I know Strickland's words carry weight with gun owners. When these gun owners understand their guns are safe, they are willing to hear what Obama has to say about the economy.
It's also good to see the NRA's leadership being called out on their hypocrisy. Yesterday, the Los Angeles Times used the NRA's own words to undermine the case the group is trying to make for McCain:
The NRA on Thursday officially endorsed John McCain, though that was merely a formality given that it had already spent $2.3 million on attack ads targeting Obama. This puts the organization in the odd position of throwing its considerable political clout behind a Republican candidate whom its official journal once called "one of the premier flag carriers for enemies of the 2nd Amendment," and against a Democrat who never tires of telling voters that he believes in the right to bear arms. So what gives? Apparently, the NRA thinks that McCain's past legislative sins against gun ownership are forgivable, while Obama's are not.
The gun lobby was furious seven years ago when the McCain-Feingold bill threatened to limit the ability of advocacy groups like the NRA to sponsor political ads; McCain also prominently backed a bill that would have required dealers at gun shows to run background checks on buyers, a smart strategy for keeping guns out of the hands of criminals that horrifies the NRA. McCain's choice of lifetime NRA member Sarah Palin as vice president, on the other hand, seems to have erased any doubts about his loyalty to the Colt-hugging crew.
There was never any doubt that the NRA would endorse their one-time enemy, John McCain. The current leaders of the NRA put their own partisan politics first. This year, however, the NRA isn't the only game in town. Gun owners are hearing from both sides. And, this year, that is making a major difference. Along those lines, I'll be back on the campaign trail this week heading to Minnesota and Michigan.
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Lipstick on a pig.
People living in the country are gullible dumbasses. We’re the ones who are keeping that Nigerian Prince Bank Account scam alive.
Obama is a socialist and a liar about many of his positions. He knows if he were honest he could not be elected.
So he manufactures lies beyond pale and the MSM gleefully repeat them.
Obama is using the same big lie tactics as previous socialist dictators used. And just like Pravda the MSM is fully in the bag.
Anyone who believes that Obama is going to protect Second Amendment rights is a blithering idiot.
Ok!
1. Obama will sign the Fairness doctrine!
2. Declare a National emergency!
3. Rescind the 2nd amendment by signing into law to ban all firearms.
Gang members and drug dealers really shouldn't count as "gun owners".
Satire?
If true, these “rednecks” won’t be clinging to their “guns and gods” for too much longer. Pass me the brie.
Soros and the Brady campaign set up this fake gun group and its run by rabid gun-grabbers.
He can support gun rights all he wants. The problem will come in when, like Hillary, he trys to restrict ammo.
My comment is that I don’t have time to read Obama’s propagandist.
Someone should tell this fraud Ray that no one is buying his BS.
more biased media
but lets go with it
if any person with a gun votes for obama then they deserve to have their gun rights stripped as they are complete idiots
Now I have a gun and I know many who do here in Florida infact just up the road from Daytona and not one person I know is going for obama
so again the media are just giving out more biased obama propaganda crap
as for around here going for obama , NO WAY
Not one yard sign on display for obama, hardly any stickers infact Palin and McCain stickers out number obama about 10 to 1 right now here in north Florida
Hitler did too - it's important to know ahead of time who is armed.
I'm not swallowing this load of swill ...
The con artist, Obama, will say anything if he thinks it will get him votes.
a one vote swing overturns the DC gun ruling. Liberal judges only respect precedent when it backs their position. In debate 3 Osama clearly stated he would appoint judges would legislate from the bench. Wake up America!
The NRA is going to having “guns a blazing” against Obama in the last few weeks. Obama knows it and that is why he is trying to put his own camo on.
All NRA members and gun owners know about Obama and will not vote for him and the NRA will remind them.
I thought the same
I never have nor will I ever read that magazine
it is just another liberal mouth piece trying to influence another core group of the republicans
It ain't about hunting.
When a state issued CCW is valid in all states, I might believe. When you don't need a licence in any state, I will believe.
Under zerobama, a license for speech is more likely .
Raymond Frederick Schoenke (born September 10, 1941 in Wahiawa, Hawaii) is a gun owner, hunter, and conservationist. Former Washington Redskins football player Ray Schoenke is the founding President of the American Hunters and Shooters Association which the Brady Campaign, an anti-gun organization, considers to be 'complementary' to its own goals.
The Brady campaign supports this group. Nuff said.
You drank the kool aid didn’t you.
Obama said very clearly that if he ould get the votes in Congress he would ban firearms altogether.
We have no media representation.
And now we learn ACORN has removed our ability to take part in a representative form of government.
That leaves us only one recourse.
What about his votes in the state senate to ban guns? This pro gun organization sounds like a big joke. If they really support the rights of gun owners then they, like tens of millions of others who are blinded with 0bama love, will have to learn the hard way when he goes against their best interests. And he will.
It’s ok to lie to infidels.
I did. I posted a comment that he was either a socialist plant and liar or just a complete idiot. After I hit “enter” a window came up and told me that my message would be reviewed for “appropriateness.” Ummm, Im not gonna hold my breath on that getting posted!
Oh yeah, Obama's going to fix all that, even make sea levels go down.
All I know is gun sales are very brisk, all over the country. That doesn’t occur when the leftist candidate is a proponent of the 2nd amendment.
P.S. I believe there is a 50/50 chance of Obama being elected and a 50/50 chance McCain, if elected, will support an “assault weapons ban”. I am buying those most likely banned items, that I’ll lose in a freak boating accident this winter, before Congress gets back into session after their Winter break.
AHSA is a non-partisan organization that advocates and advances sensible public policies. We will never support unfettered access to all types of weapons. (I don't remember reading anything in the bill of rights about government approved weapons.)
Where do they find these Quisling sellouts?
St. Peter is at the Pearly Gates checking up on the people waiting to enter Heaven.
He asks the next one in line, 'So, who are you, and what did you do on Earth?' The fellow says,"I'm Barack Obama,and I was the first black to be elected President of the United States."
St. Peter says, "The U.S.? A black President? You gotta be kidding me! When did this happen? "
And Obama says, 'About twenty minutes ago.
This is a front group for the Brady Center to Prevent Handgun Violence.
My comment is that when the Dems actually propose and pass a repeal of the Brady Law, Lautenberg law, the ‘86 full auto ban, the ‘68 GCA, the ‘34 NFA and abolish the “F” part of the BATFE, THEN AND ONLY THEN will I believe that bunch of lying, gun-grabbing tyrant-wannabees. Until then, I’m clinging.
Next issue.
Correction, their ideal is that we abandon prosperity, live in the wild, and hunt with bows and arrows at most, eat plants only at best. Hunting rifles are just a “necessary evil” - a temporary bridge in order to cull some support from dupes while working towards a complete abandonment of technology.
And No, I didn't just call Barry a muslim! :)
“Ok!
1. Obama will sign the Fairness doctrine!
2. Declare a National emergency!
3. Rescind the 2nd amendment by signing into law to ban all firearms.”
I am actual concerned that if he wins and has overwhelming majorities (esp. a filibuster-proof Senate), then there’s a real chance of a Reichstag Fire that will be followed by a major (and, needless to say, unconstitutional) granting of “temporary” powers to him. “Temporary” - as in for the duration of the (manufactured) crisis, or any other (manufactured) crisis that the President certifies. Remember that Hitler’s powers were also temporary - they only lasted for about 12 years.
I would laugh at that but it’s too true.
If you are a sportsman,...”
How I DESPISE that term! FWIW, anytime I hear anyone use it, I know that they are anti-gun, and will take everything away if given the chance (or at least everything except expensive shotguns and single-shot air rifles. The whole idea of mere sport being used to justify a constitutional right is offensive.
“...if you are a gun owner, if you are someone that honors and respects the Second Amendment, you have nothing to fear from Barack Obama,” the Democratic governor said at a rally in the rural southern part of his state.
Yeah, Barry ain’t got the guts to come around collect anything himself. His hired (and taxpayer-paid) thugs...well, that’s a different matter.
All that I have to say about that is:
Persian (or is it Kenyan?), **Molon Labe!**
If’n you don’t understand that Barry, watch this scene from “300” and you might be able to buy a clue. http://moviesonline.ca/TheFeed/index.php?id=300-laydownyourweapons
Yeah.........Right.......
I think I’ll find a fox to guard my chicken house at the same time......
Here in Virginia there are commercial spots running with that dweeb junior senator demoRAT Jim Webb saying the same crap. Nobody I know is falling for that pack of lies.
0’s record speaks for itself. He never met a gun law he didn’t like and if he gets in the WH he will sign EVERY SINGLE one that makes it to his desk.
My husband just got a call from a friend w/a FFL. There is a run on both guns and ammo. The ammo supplier is having a pre-Obama sale. We’re in.
Reloaders need to be aware of all the ways they can restrict those supplies, as well.
I know!
Obama is selling lots of guns. I bought a Springfield XD45 yesterday. I’m buying an AR15 next week and probably an AK47 soon after that. The two rifles are guns that I had no interest in buying before this presidential election.
I think that even Obama would moderate his tone a bit if he won. The rarefied air in the Oval Office might get to him. He may lay the ground-work...sorry...do the spade work...of gun banning, but he'll weigh everything against his odds of re-election.
So who intercepted this direct letter to criminals all over America?
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