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US and Poland agree shield deal
BBC News ^ | 14 August 2008

Posted on 08/14/2008 11:08:41 AM PDT by lizol

US and Poland agree shield deal

Breaking News

The US and Poland have agreed a preliminary deal on plans for the controversial US defence shield, Warsaw has announced.

The plan would see the US base 10 missile interceptors in Poland in exchange for help strengthening Polish defences, said PM Donald Tusk.

The scheme is highly controversial and has been opposed by Russia.

Poland is reported to have demanded security help after Moscow threatened to target its missiles at the bases.

The Polish Foreign Ministry told the PAP news agency that the deal would be signed at 1800 GMT.

The US signed a deal with the Czech Republic in July to base tracking radars there as part of the missile defence system.

The US wants the sites to be in operation by about 2012.

Russia has expressed concern about the system in the past, with one official saying the deal "complicates" global security.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antimissileshield; europe; geopolitics; missiledefense; poland
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My private message to Russia - go pound sand!
1 posted on 08/14/2008 11:08:42 AM PDT by lizol
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2 posted on 08/14/2008 11:09:15 AM PDT by lizol
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To: lizol

4 years to get 10 missiles operational?


3 posted on 08/14/2008 11:09:48 AM PDT by kc8ukw
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To: lizol

Russia wrote off Poland some time ago. But they will use this as a pretext to go after Ukraine.


4 posted on 08/14/2008 11:10:18 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: kc8ukw

10 missile SYSTEMS. They are relatively complicated - but even so - 4 years? Maybe it’s misinformation.


5 posted on 08/14/2008 11:11:27 AM PDT by Core_Conservative (Proud to be "The self-righteous, gun-totin, military lovin, abortion-hatin, gay-loathin'...")
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To: lizol; Lurker

“This’ll make Putin wet his KGB issued panties.” — Lurker


6 posted on 08/14/2008 11:12:40 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March ("The internet needs a gatekeeper," The Cackling Comeback Witch aka Hillary Rod-ham [Clinton])
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To: lizol

I wonder if the Russian foray into Georgia speeded up the decision to let the missiles be based in Poland.


7 posted on 08/14/2008 11:13:36 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead (3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87))
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To: lizol

So far, Bush is playing this situation quite well.

We need to support democracy, wherever it is.

Just my opinion.... 8^)


8 posted on 08/14/2008 11:14:12 AM PDT by airborne (American by birth! Christian by choice!)
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To: lizol

Good thing there are not enclaves of ethnic russian separatists in poland. Lots of russian mafia but no enclaves. (Did you know there are handfuls of muzzies from the real bad old days in some villages there, too?)


9 posted on 08/14/2008 11:18:10 AM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: kc8ukw

Yup. 4 years. These things are based in underground silos that have yet to be built. Plus a bunch of in-ground infrastructure that isn’t there. Construction that has been on hold because of politics, in a country that has its fair share of crappy weather. Plus, we’re still working on some of that stuff here in the US for our local shield as well, which I imagine is going to get some upgrades now that the Russkies are misbehaving. I’d expect that the base in Alaska may get a few more launchers installed, plus the ones at Vandenberg.


10 posted on 08/14/2008 11:19:24 AM PDT by Mr Inviso
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To: GreyFriar

Definitely.

One of Poland’s conditions to agree to host that base was, that U.S. will station Patriot missiles in Poland too.

U.S. didn’t want to accept this demand, as they were afraid such a move would piss off the Russians (as it would be clearly protection against possible Russian attack).

Now I think they don’t care about that anymore.


11 posted on 08/14/2008 11:20:04 AM PDT by lizol
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To: lizol

The Germans have so much eurocoin invested in poland now (for the cheaper but educated labor) that they might even raise a finger to help those brave poles face down a bear charge.


12 posted on 08/14/2008 11:22:13 AM PDT by epluribus_2
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Lizol I hope we gave you brave souls all and more than you were asking for. LIBERTY!!


13 posted on 08/14/2008 11:23:17 AM PDT by Camel Joe (liberal=socialist=royalist/imperialist pawn=enemy of Freedom)
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To: airborne

It was also the opinion of Thomas Jefferson so you are in good company.


14 posted on 08/14/2008 11:24:15 AM PDT by Camel Joe (liberal=socialist=royalist/imperialist pawn=enemy of Freedom)
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To: lizol

“The US wants the sites to be in operation by about 2012”

Baloney. Do it right now before Bush leaves office.


15 posted on 08/14/2008 12:01:24 PM PDT by rjp2005 (Lord have mercy on us)
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To: lizol

After what Russia did to Georgia, there is nothing “highly controversial” about the move.

Thank you, Poland!


16 posted on 08/14/2008 12:06:22 PM PDT by rrstar96 (Strength and Honor!)
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To: Camel Joe

According to the media - one of the parts of this agreement is, that U.S will react with all its power if Poland’s is attacked by a “third party”.

The “third party” must be really pissed off this evening :-)))


17 posted on 08/14/2008 12:11:02 PM PDT by lizol
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To: lizol

Did Poland see the fine print about the agreement being void if Obama wins?


18 posted on 08/14/2008 12:13:01 PM PDT by JZelle
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To: JZelle

Lets’ hope he won’t - now both our nations :-)))


19 posted on 08/14/2008 12:19:04 PM PDT by lizol
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The scheme is highly controversial ...

"Sceme"? And "highly controversial" always means that it is something that makes socialists want to pee themselves.

20 posted on 08/14/2008 12:25:57 PM PDT by SampleMan (We are a free and industrious people, socialist nannies do not become us.)
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