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Cesaer Laurean CAPTURED!!!
Jacksonville Daily News

Posted on 04/10/2008 6:31:44 PM PDT by debm29palms

http://www.jdnews.com/articles/captured_55965___article.html/cesar_laurean.html

Cesar Laurean, wanted since Jan. 11 for the killing of a pregnant Camp Lejeune Marine, has been captured in Mexico, said Capt. Rick Sutherland of the Onslow County Sheriff's Department.

More details will follow as they develop.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: byebyeloser; ceaearlaurean; immigration; lauterbach; lejeune; marialauterbach; marine; mexico; murder
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To: freema; Lyn_2IDMom
Wow! Thanks for the ping, freema. From JD News,

...." Information leading to Laurean's apprehension was gathered from electronic communication devices seized about two weeks ago from the house in Jacksonville where Christina Laurean has been living since her husband vanished, confirmed Dewey Hudson, district attorney for the 4th Prosecutorial District that includes Onslow County.

Prosecutors remain convinced that Laurean's wife, Christina Laurean, was not involved in the death of Lance Cpl. Maria Lauterbach, Hudson said, but investigators have been gathering evidence that she had been in contact with him since he fled Onslow County."....

Magdalena Guzman, a spokeswoman for Michoacan state prosecutors, told The Associated Press that police carrying out an anti-kidnapping operation stopped Laurean as he wandered on a street in the rural township of Tacambaro, Michoacan, because they thought he looked suspicious.

When they realized he didn't speak Spanish well, they became even more suspicious and ran his name through a computer, learning he was wanted for Lauterbach's slaying.

"You know my name. You know who I am," Laurean told The Associated Press while being held at the Michoacan state Attorney General's Office in Morelia, the state capital.

Asked if he wanted to say anything, Laurean simply said "Proof," but wouldn't explain. Asked what he would do next, he replied, "do I have a choice? ... I don't know."".....
101 posted on 04/11/2008 5:57:11 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: TMSuchman
Desertion may not be the only capital offense he committed. If the original rape charges stick under the UCMJ he's looking at:

ART. 120. RAPE AND CARNAL KNOWLEDGE

(a) Any person subject to this chapter who commits an act of sexual intercourse with a female not his wife, by force and without consent, is guilty of rape and shall be punished by death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct.

102 posted on 04/11/2008 6:07:48 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: muawiyah
Could be ~ that's what he claimed, right?

I don't think that's what HE claimed. If I remember correctly, that's a matter of record in the military case on this.

Be that as it may, it looks like we have the monster.

103 posted on 04/11/2008 6:26:49 AM PDT by GVnana ("They're still analyzing the first guy. What do I have to worry about?" - GWB)
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To: Poetgal26

Immediate trial with the death penalty excuted on his sorry murdering butt. I hope his wife is convicted as well and gets the needle for accessory, aiding’abetting and helping the POS escape to mehico.

Just another example of a domestic terrorist network in America.

LA LAW,
NSNR


104 posted on 04/11/2008 7:00:24 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat (Xin Loi My Boy!!!!)
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To: gruffwolf

Unfortunately they do not have the intestinal fortitude to do what is “Rightful Justice.”

The puke will probably have La Raza and the other lefto hispanic groups begging for a life sentence in his case.

LA LAW,
NSNR


105 posted on 04/11/2008 7:03:10 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat (Xin Loi My Boy!!!!)
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To: Joe 6-pack

My question is;

Is that charge being handled by the civi’s? Or are they just going to handle the murder...

I do believe that the MARINE CORPS took a back seat to this when they figured out that he was headed to mexico, so they could go after the death penalty without having the diplomatic problem with mexico. I just hope that when the military justice is done with him that they bring back the gallows and hang him!


106 posted on 04/11/2008 7:07:19 AM PDT by TMSuchman (American by birth Rebel by choice, MARINE by act of GOD!)
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To: muawiyah

In my speculation, the perp and his wife were swingers who befriended this Marine. They probably either got her drunk or drugged at their house and that is where the rape took place.

I hope the perp will get the death penalty.

LA LAW,
NSNR


107 posted on 04/11/2008 7:08:20 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat (Xin Loi My Boy!!!!)
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To: Spunky; All

The linked article mentions that the media was saying she was bipolar, and a liar. On the other hand, she certainly did not burn herself up, even if, as has been suggested, she killed herself. Boy, what a mess.


108 posted on 04/11/2008 7:13:42 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: TMSuchman
"Is that charge being handled by the civi’s? Or are they just going to handle the murder... I do believe that the MARINE CORPS took a back seat..."

IIRC, the victim was about to testify at an Article 32 hearing on the rape charge when she went missing...then he deserted shortly thereafter.

The UCMJ is kind of a unique system in that jurisdiction is not geographic, but rather based on the status of the uniformed service member...even if an active duty soldier is on leave at the furthest point on earth from any US military installation, and commits an offense, he is still subject to the code. Consequently, even the homocide is conceivably prosecutable under the UCMJ, even it it occurred off post, although in that sort of situation the local authorities normally prosecute state offenses (although in this case, the USMC may want to assert primacy since he killed another Marine). Just by virtue of who and where he was at the time of the crime, he was already in both the state and federal stew pots.

109 posted on 04/11/2008 7:19:48 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack; All

I heard on the news yesterday that about 700 hundred American women have been raped overseas by our soldiers. Over 600 of them were female military. Are there going to be a large number of executions? or will most get their hands slapped?


110 posted on 04/11/2008 7:20:13 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: windcliff

ping


111 posted on 04/11/2008 7:37:34 AM PDT by stylecouncilor (I'm a loner Dottie; a rebel.)
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To: gleeaikin
"Are there going to be a large number of executions? or will most get their hands slapped?"

How many convictions have there been? There may also be cases under the SOFA where a service member was was not convicted under the UCMJ, but was convicted of rape under the laws of a host country which doesn't consider rape a capital crime.

A Military Trial council, like a DA in a civilian trial needs to reach a pretty high bar, and would have to demonstrate extreme aggravating circumstances in order to seek the death penalty in a Rape Case. Although I can't throw precise stats at you, my experience has been that the majority of service member on service member rape cases are barracks incidents that are generally analogous to the date rape allegations that arise from college dorm situations. I suspect the UCMJ keeps this a viable penalty simply because a service member raping a civilian of a subjugated enemy nation is an act of the worst kind of barbarism, and creates harm not only the victim on site, but severely undermines the goals and ideals of the nation as well as placing the soldier's fellow service members at risk for retribution from locals.

Had Laurean stayed and faced the rape allegations against him, he may have gone to court martial, but would have not faced the death penalty. On the other hand, now, if I were the prosecutor and I thought I had the evidence to convict him of rape, I'd go for the death penalty on the rape charge as well as the murder charge just in case he was somehow able to get one or the other charge thrown out or overturned.

112 posted on 04/11/2008 7:39:01 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: gleeaikin

While FL may agree with the scumbag Mexicans not to put him to death if convicted, NC may not have to enter into that “agreement”. Even if the Marines don’t put him to death, I think there’s still a chance that the skank will fry.


113 posted on 04/11/2008 7:40:03 AM PDT by levotb
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To: Girlene

Notice how the MNM refuses to cover this. I just watched 30 minutes on all cable news channels and NOTHING ON THIS!! Could it be that the MNM is afraid to cover this because he’s a Latino double murderer-rapist AND possibly an illegal alien? After all, he WAS born ion Mexico, making him a Mexican national...


114 posted on 04/11/2008 7:49:23 AM PDT by levotb
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Kudos to the FBI and Mexican Police for finding this guy.....


115 posted on 04/11/2008 8:04:01 AM PDT by Revereee
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To: sodpoodle

Sorry I didn’t ping you, I was looking for the old ping list too!


116 posted on 04/11/2008 8:15:45 AM PDT by debm29palms (Proud Wife of SSgt. Donald C. May, Jr. KIA March 25, 2003)
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To: HiJinx

Thanks for the ping, HiJinx. The news on TV last night said the perp was found in his “native Mexico”. Has anyone heard how he got his ‘resident’ status...legally, or illegally, by joining the Army?


117 posted on 04/11/2008 8:22:09 AM PDT by AuntB ('If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: levotb
Notice how the MNM refuses to cover this.

Maybe it's not considered sensational now? I don't know. I think there's a press conference this afternoon, but don't know who's carrying it. Since it may take a while for him to be extradited back to the US, I expect it will fall out of the news fairly quickly, again.
118 posted on 04/11/2008 8:23:49 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: muawiyah

I heard that this guy’s wife has been in contact him since he fled to Mexico. Charges might be coming regarding that. I think, IIRC, the wife also helped him clean up the blood stains and she believed that his victim had committed suicide. Somehow I have a suspicious feeling that the wife might have had a hand in the woman’s death. It seems in the beginning the police said the wife was cooperating, but if she remained in contact with the guy (and if it was not a ploy encouraged by the police) it sure sounds bad for the wife, too.


119 posted on 04/11/2008 8:34:53 AM PDT by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
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To: debm29palms; All; Virginia Ridgerunner; texastoo; jan in Colorado; wolfcreek; Brandie; ...

The latest from CNN:

[snip] Since Laurean holds both U.S. and Mexican citizenship, he cannot be immediately deported, Guzman said. His Mexican citizenship requires an extradition hearing, she said.

His capture in Mexico protects Laurean from facing the death penalty in the United States. Mexico’s extradition policy prohibits U.S. officials from seeking capital punishment against fugitives turned over by Mexican authorities.

If Laurean chooses to fight extradition, it could take up to two years to return him to North Carolina, Hudson said.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/04/11/missing.marine/index.html?eref=rss_topstories


120 posted on 04/11/2008 8:36:21 AM PDT by AuntB ('If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: AuntB

From your Crime link:

***U.S. Marine Cpl. Cesar Laurean, the main suspect in the killing of a 20-year-old pregnant Marine, was captured Thursday night, three months after fleeing North Carolina, the FBI said.***

The MAIN suspect????? So is there a secondary or third suspect????

interesting!!


121 posted on 04/11/2008 9:12:42 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption.)
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To: freema; Lyn_2IDMom

What I find amazing is that just very recently a sketch was put out showing Laurean with a beard... must have been a hot tip.


122 posted on 04/11/2008 9:41:21 AM PDT by NCjim (The more I use Windows, the more I love UNIX)
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To: gleeaikin
Was the baby dead when he burned them? I will try to watch Greta's On the Record to see if she has the decency to apologize for calling his rape victim "his girlfriend."

Crowds should greet Cesar Laurean with signs of "Baby Killer," "Monster," etc. His wife and her sister should be charged to the max. I am sure there is a way to get him the death penalty.

123 posted on 04/11/2008 9:54:51 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: Girlene

This is classic. Perps often get nabbed on a completely different charge or dragnet. Good for the Michoacan police.


124 posted on 04/11/2008 9:58:28 AM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: levotb

Fwiw, it is front page “above the fold” at Google news.


125 posted on 04/11/2008 10:01:36 AM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: AuntB

He is legal, reportedly became a U.S. citizen in 2003.


126 posted on 04/11/2008 10:05:25 AM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: AuntB
Laurean holds both U.S. and Mexican citizenship,

His capture in Mexico protects Laurean from facing the death penalty in the United States.

That's one of the reasons why I detest dual citizenship.

127 posted on 04/11/2008 10:07:19 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: Dante3

Hi Dante:)

I have not found our old thread - but we questioned whether Maria & Laurean had an illicit affair - & she got pregnant & became vindictive when he refused to leave his controlling wife.

If Maria was so terrified of Laurean - we have to wonder how she was lured to the Laurean house. It looks like a woman’s plan - to call her over to discuss child support in exchange for dropping the rape allegation(s).

I have this nagging belief that the wife attacked Maria and bullied Laurean into skipping town. The wife seems not to be afraid of her “murdering husband”. It looks as if he has been following her orders since day one.

JMHO - but I’ve been wrong before;)


128 posted on 04/11/2008 10:11:02 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption.)
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To: DumpsterDiver

Agreed!!! Dual loyalty? I don’t think so...


129 posted on 04/11/2008 10:13:30 AM PDT by AuntB ('If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: PAR35; Pistolshot; kcvl
Now will Mexico extradite him?

Only if the US promises that he won't get the justice he deserves.

Nailed it, unfortunately:

It's still unclear exactly how and when Laurean will be returned to North Carolina to face the charges. Onslow County District Attorney Dewey Hudson has agreed not to seek the death penalty in exchange for cooperation in the extradition of Laurean were he to be captured in Mexico, which has traditionally refused to return American fugitives to the United States without such a promise. A contested extradition to the United States from Mexico has been known to take up to a year or more. Authorities in North Carolina are expected to address the issue during a news conference today.

Fugitive Marine Captured in Mexico (ABC News)

130 posted on 04/11/2008 10:13:37 AM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: sodpoodle
Hi sod:)

Unless he kidnapped her, this could well be the case. Just from the few facts revealed initially, it sounded that she was had at least a partial involvement. And him having a barbecues over their bodies was beyond perverted!

131 posted on 04/11/2008 10:16:39 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: Dante3

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1952108/posts

Old thread from January 2008


132 posted on 04/11/2008 10:24:17 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption.)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1952108/posts

Old thread from January 2008

With current posts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


133 posted on 04/11/2008 10:27:52 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption.)
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To: All

An upcoming joint US-Israel report on the September 6 IAF strike on a Syrian facility will claim that former Iraqi president Saddam Hussein transferred weapons of mass destruction to the country, Channel 2 stated Monday.

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=29584_JPost-_US-Israeli_Report_Shows_Saddam_Transferred_WMDs_to_Syria&only


134 posted on 04/11/2008 10:42:45 AM PDT by drzz
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To: DumpsterDiver
“... I detest dual citizenship, ...”

From the U.S. standpoint there is no such thing, with the exception of Israeli-U.S. citizenship. In other words, we don't recognize his Mexican citizenship. The problem for U.S. law-enforcement officials in this case is that Mexico considers him a Mexican citizen, and our extradition agreement with Mexico allows the Mexican government to give him whatever “due process” (interminable hearings, etc.) is appropriate as a result of that.

135 posted on 04/11/2008 10:51:42 AM PDT by riverdawg
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To: GVnana

Who can trust the military record. They seem to have taken less than adequate care to make sure the perp couldn’t get at the victim so why should we believe any “judgments” they may have come up with.


136 posted on 04/11/2008 11:00:14 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: DumpsterDiver

The DA is just on CNN now saying that they were forced to agree on NO DEATH PENALTY due to treaty with Mexico signed by the one and only PRESIDENT JIMMY CARTER!


137 posted on 04/11/2008 11:14:55 AM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: muawiyah

From the presser - it looks as if LE was tracking Laurean in Mexico (from his contact with wifey perhaps). They may have been waiting for him to sneak back into the US - and were hoping they could arrest him here - rather than extradicting from Mexico.

Too bad - but a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

No other warrants are being issued - based on the investigation to date - however if facts change........

I hope wifey is wilting.


138 posted on 04/11/2008 11:16:52 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption.)
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To: sodpoodle
My husband just phoned. He heard part of the press conference. He said it was sickening. From what he heard, the Sheriff in NC (???) made comments such as:
*Cesar Laurean deserves to be treated like a human being. The Baby Killer murders a mother and her baby, burns the bodies, holds barbecues over the bodies, and the Sheriff cries over the "poor guy." WTH is going on?
*His prayers or something is with the family of Cesar - I wonder what he said about his victims' family. Apparently he family here in the US(?) has refused to learn English - whatever that has anything to do with the case.
139 posted on 04/11/2008 11:21:33 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: Dante3

LE is damned if they do & damned if they don’t. I understood the Sheriff’s statement to be “This animal doesn’t deserve it — but we are forced to treat him as a human because this is America” Different nuance I guess;)

Christina’s attorney sure has staked out her turf - he claims she had nothing to do with the murder or the clean up or the burning. We have to conclude she is either the most calculating pre-meditated murderer on the planet or she is deaf, dumb and blind.


140 posted on 04/11/2008 11:28:30 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption.)
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To: Dante3

Oh - and during the presser - all of the LE representatives went overboard with praise for “Christina” - not Mrs. Laurean. They mentioned how much she still loves her husband (the mother & baby burner)and how she did not provide him with money - which would have been a felony - but only communicated with him - which of course is not illegal.

Her attorney also claimed that the Marines had ordered her not to comment on the case - to keep a low profile and asked that the press respect her privacy in this sensitive matter.

That wifey is smart - she has all of them fooled.


141 posted on 04/11/2008 11:33:33 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption.)
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To: sodpoodle

Sickening.


142 posted on 04/11/2008 11:37:18 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: sodpoodle
Her statements are exactly what one would expect of an instigator/accomplice. What normal person would communicate with a perverts such as Cesar Laurean and say she loved him unless she had serious involvement with the crime and/or is a sociopath who gets a kick out of it. The image of him barbecuing over the bodies is something that I find hard to shake.
143 posted on 04/11/2008 12:19:26 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: Dante3

If Cesar Laurean PLANNED to kill Maria - he surely would have taken her to an isolated place and disposed of her body. Wife would not have known or could have provided an alibi and there would not have been a barbecue.

However, if Maria’s killing was the result of an angry rage attack - who is the most betrayed and aggrieved party in this triangle?

And the strangest words out of the captured Laurean “I loved her”. Have to wonder what reaction that admission will provoke from Christina?


144 posted on 04/11/2008 1:07:19 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption.)
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To: freema

I’m just glad he got caught.

I don’t care who takes the credit.


145 posted on 04/11/2008 1:53:41 PM PDT by Palladin (Obama is a totalitarian nutcase.)
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To: AuntB
Figured :^
..maybe the President will intervene to see justice done for this woman/baby....sarcasm~
146 posted on 04/11/2008 3:02:13 PM PDT by Guenevere (If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all.)
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To: Riverman94610
I HATE Mexico more than I ever hated Iraq or Iran combined ! !

and i hate our filthy government for selling us all out by importing the economic refugees ( like this slime ball) to come take OUR jobs !

mexicans have the special priveledge of going back home and changing ID when they get in trouble.....all we get with citizenship is Jury Duty

147 posted on 04/11/2008 3:36:36 PM PDT by KTM rider (McCain '08, ....better than the alternative)
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To: Palladin

I do. NCIS was the one agency I left out.

For the record, I’ve noted quite a few posters are not giving this man the presumption of innocence.

No one knows what the facts will bear.

He may have only been responsible for field day.


148 posted on 04/11/2008 4:32:07 PM PDT by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Cousin, Mom and FRiend)
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To: sodpoodle

We can still execute his wife.


149 posted on 04/11/2008 4:52:23 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: debm29palms

Get a rope!


150 posted on 04/11/2008 9:49:05 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (McRINO makes me wanna reach across the aisle, too. And SLAP some sense into the fools !!)
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