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Latinos’ Education Failure is Their Own Fault!
Global Politician ^ | Prof. John Press

Posted on 03/23/2008 6:31:48 PM PDT by river rat

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To: river rat

AND building the stinking fence. Gotta stop the flood before you start to use the buckets.

AND again we see that there will be absolutely no difference in the way MCDole or Obama/hilltlery deal with this.


21 posted on 03/23/2008 8:19:04 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: pallis
"Most schools in the US do teach their classes in English."

All schools, 100% of them 100% of the time should teach in ENGLISH only -- except of course in "Foreign Language Studies"..

"Who should be teaching children how to behave, and respect teachers?

NOT the schools or the teachers... Send the little bastards home, and see how long it takes for mommy to kick their asses into gear to get them out of her hair and back into school.

"A lot of people can’t home school or afford private schools."

Then those parents should have NO complaint meeting the minimal requirements to keep their kids in PUBLIC schools..
Discipline, Attention, Do the class work, do the homework - or stay the hell home with mommy.

It REALLY is as simple as that..
That was the way they ran the schools I went to.

22 posted on 03/23/2008 8:29:34 PM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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“...if you haven’t learned to read or to speak English.”

I’ll have to reread this to see what I missed. The biggest problem with Hispanic kids isn’t not knowing how to speak English. Most Hispanic kids who are born here do speak English. How well they speak and write English is another matter. I live in an area that is 85 percent Hispanic, and out of the thousands of kids in the school district, there are probably fewer than fifty who don’t speak English. ...Anyhow, I’m not arguing the English point. Do away with bilingual education, and make classes English only, like they used to be. I will stick to my premise that the big problem with our educational system is that parents have quit taking responsibility for their kid’s education.


23 posted on 03/23/2008 8:31:05 PM PDT by pallis
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To: river rat

“Then those parents should have NO complaint meeting the minimal requirements to keep their kids in PUBLIC schools..
Discipline, Attention, Do the class work, do the homework - or stay the hell home with mommy.”

Reread what I’m saying. I don’t think we have an argument here. If parents do their part, kids will learn.


24 posted on 03/23/2008 8:34:09 PM PDT by pallis
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To: pallis
Where are their parents while all this studying is going on? I bet they are with their children. I was lucky enough to visit Hong Kong decades ago - then it was still British. Out lovely and elegant tour guide during the day explained that she spent three hours with her children every evening on homework.
25 posted on 03/23/2008 8:38:40 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (Live pure, speak true, right wrong and follow The King. (Tennyson))
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To: pallis

I knew we were on the same page — we just pronounce the words with more or less “force”....

But I still think I hold the schools, their unions and their boards more responsible for the failures that you do.


26 posted on 03/23/2008 8:52:17 PM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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*Latinos’ Education Failure is Their Own Fault!*

Living in San Diego, the title of the article is more correct than you know.

They are costing the S.D. school dists. which is the second largest in Calif. tens of millions of dollars.

The various dists. in the county that have a large Mexican pop. are the worst.

Most drop out early in high school. Also it is a myth that most native born speak English. Not uncommon for three generations to not speak English.


27 posted on 03/23/2008 9:06:20 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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I’m Hispanic but my family isn’t stuck in an anti-education, work-before-school mentality. I’m on my way to be a mathematician, my brother is an endodontist, my other brother is an electronics engineer with an MBA, another is a avionics engineer, and still another is a private detective. And yes my parents were both born in Mexico and came over legally in 1950.


28 posted on 03/23/2008 9:15:43 PM PDT by rbosque ("An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: SoCalPol

I know.... I’ve friends who were forced to leave the area for that very reason.
The schools and neighborhood were becoming too much like Tijuana.


29 posted on 03/23/2008 9:21:08 PM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: rbosque

Obviously - you and your family ASSIMILATED...
Obviously - you and your family took full advantage of the opportunity to SUCCEED..

I didn’t interpret the article to damn all immigrants, but to point out that too many failing immigrants allow their “culture” to stand between them and that which is POSSIBLE in America..

I’m a first generation American myself....and the first on either side of my family to get an education past the 8th grade!


30 posted on 03/23/2008 9:33:03 PM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: river rat

I live in the heart of the city and don’t have that problem other areas have.


31 posted on 03/23/2008 9:37:51 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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In general - which parts of SD have been most negatively effected?


32 posted on 03/23/2008 9:49:27 PM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: river rat

South Bay, East S.D., N. Cen. part of county
Some other parts in general.
With San Diego county the size of the state of Connecticut
there are still large areas free of the third world type.
I live near downtown and enjoy the area.


33 posted on 03/23/2008 10:21:58 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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Then is sounds like North Island/Coronado, North Harbor and Miramar as still in American hands?

How about the Gaslamp Quarter around Broadway and 6th Ave?


34 posted on 03/23/2008 10:35:05 PM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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How about the Gaslamp Quarter around Broadway and 6th Ave?

Gaslamp area is upscale restaurants, many high rise condo bldgs at multi millions a unit, high rise hotels.
The Hillcrest, Bankershill, downtown, Point Loma,
Beach area, Coronado, La Jolla and basic core area is
upscale. The basic coastal area is great. The area where Marimar Marine air base and the suburbs around it are great.

My neighborhood has condos from 800,000 to over 4 million a unit. A new 43 story condo bldg just finished tops at 12 million a unit.


35 posted on 03/23/2008 10:49:09 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: river rat

bookmark and thanks


36 posted on 03/23/2008 11:41:38 PM PDT by Leofl (I'm from Texas, we don't dial 9-11)
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To: SoCalPol

Well, it sounds like all the important core areas are still in American hands!

Thanks..
I really need to get back down there.
Lots of VERY fond memories from decades ago.


37 posted on 03/23/2008 11:59:28 PM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: river rat

No, I know you didn’t interpret the article that way either. I was just pointing out how I felt toward immigrants who refuse to assimilate and instead dwell in the kind of subculture that dooms them to a cycle of poverty. Many Hispanics here in L.A. are compelled to never rise above their class, which is funny because in Mexico, status is everything. If you are a doctor or an engineer, everyone respects you. It’s a bit odd to me how when many come here, many (not all) fail to take advantage and progress.


38 posted on 03/24/2008 12:14:44 PM PDT by rbosque ("An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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