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US losing confidence vote as investors flee
The Telegraph ^ | 3/17/2008 | Ambrose Evans-Pritchard

Posted on 03/16/2008 8:58:36 PM PDT by bruinbirdman

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To: flaglady47

To: Mullah Omar
From: Osama bin Laden
Folder: Deleted File (Recovered)
Date: October 3, 2001

...I would like to emphasise the major impact of your statements on the Islamic world. Nothing harms America more than receiving your strong response to its positions and statements ... Newspapers mentioned that a recent survey showed that seven out of every 10 Americans suffer psychological problems following the attacks on New York and Washington ... Keep in mind that America is currently facing two contradictory problems:

(a) If it refrains from responding to jihad operations, its prestige will collapse, thus forcing it to withdraw its troops abroad and restrict itself to US internal affairs. This will transform it from a major power to a third-rate power, similar to Russia.

(b) On the other hand, a campaign against Afghanistan will impose great long-term economic burdens, leading to further economic collapse, which will force America, God willing, to resort to the former Soviet Union’s only option: withdrawal from Afghanistan, disintegration and contraction.

Thus our plan in the face of this campaign should focus on the following:

Serving a blow to the American economy, which will lead to:

(a) Further weakening of the American economy.

(b) Shaking the confidence in the American economy. This will lead investors to refrain from investing in America or participating in American companies, thus accelerating the fall of the American economy...

Conducting a media campaign to fight the enemy’s publicity. The campaign should focus on the following important points:

Attempt to cause a rift between the American people and their government, by demonstrating the following to the Americans:

That the US Government will lead them into further losses of money and lives.

That the Government is sacrificing the people to serve the interests of the rich, particularly the Jews.

That the Government is leading them to the war front to protect Israel and its security. America should withdraw from the current battle between Muslims and Jews.

This plan aims to create pressure from the American people on their Government to stop its campaign against Afghanistan, on the grounds that the campaign will cause major losses to the American people...

Peace upon you and God’s mercy and blessings.
Your brother,
Osama Bin Mohammed Bin Laden


101 posted on 03/17/2008 1:58:54 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: bruinbirdman

I agree that the best method of stock investing is to buy a constant amount of money regulary. As you said: “It all averages out.”


102 posted on 03/17/2008 2:06:23 AM PDT by Michael81Dus
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To: kms61

No but wait! We must see two quarters of negative growth! My small pharma marketing business forecasted $90k in January factoring in poor financials. We did $56k. For last month, we forecasted $130k. We did $34k. I can’t keep people on staff and will shrink from 11 employees to four. Can’t get an increase on our LOC, our back is close to insolvent, but is feeling Central Bank bailout may help. Yeah right. Your right, we had better get used to depression, because the economy must contract A LOT MORE to even have foreigners buy up the land. We’re going to have a role reversal where our China, India and EU nations use the U.S. to outsource and begin putting manufacturing plants here. That will help at some point but we will be a 2nd class nation for a decade before we have created our own energy supply and fixed the financial mess. Sad, so many responsible Americans go broke while so few become fab wealthy. I guess I will drive one of their cars or dig in their gardens one day to eat. Just like a Mexican, but they will get government freebies and be actually earning far more in net income.


103 posted on 03/17/2008 2:08:23 AM PDT by iThinkBig
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To: crghill

Well since your Christian, it leads to another world war, just like then. Too bad countries have nukes. Sounds like Revelations to me and the great tribulation. The good news is that 1,000 years of peace come afterward, although half the population won’t be around to see it.


104 posted on 03/17/2008 2:11:13 AM PDT by iThinkBig
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To: familyop

“May the game of crap-on-your-neighbor backfire. We need new blood in US business.”

You got that right! My neighbors are in Maine, we help each other out already and we have guns and the woods. We’ll convert the old paper mills and use coal to create biodeisel and help out other uppity states.


105 posted on 03/17/2008 2:14:30 AM PDT by iThinkBig
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To: hedgetrimmer

Umm, we are a global community these days. International investors NOT investing in our financial system is so bad in so many ways I don’t have time to explain it. The Arabs will soon be decoupling from the U.S. dollar. The commodities world all driving up the oil will collapse (and your talking entire States now seeing safety there) and then the true price of a barrel will be $200 because it will cost that much more dollars to import it at that point. $7 gallon gas, $5 a loaf of bread.

I am stocking up on ammo and things to make me more comfy in the woods while most Americans wait for their weekly delivery of yellow cheese and wheat pasta.

This is serious shit and I spent several months preparing financially because back then I told neighbors chance of recession was 100% AND if the U.S. gov did not begin a massive program of energy independance and subsidizing of millions of jobs toward energy dependance we would have a depression. What did the Fed & Treasury do? Bail out the rich guys club of Central Banks whom are not lending to businesses to grow the REAL economy. Now, chance of depression is 100%.


106 posted on 03/17/2008 2:22:59 AM PDT by iThinkBig
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To: Shady

Slapped by whom? They run the show. Yell at them all you want while you eat peanut butter and bread. They will still be eating steaks talking about ‘inflation is well anchored’.


107 posted on 03/17/2008 2:25:00 AM PDT by iThinkBig
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To: koeman15
I posted this on Saturday, this is what my take is:

Posted by JDoutrider to B-Chan On News/Activism 03/14/2008 12:24:57 AM PDT · 24 of 37 As I posted on another thread, I completely finalized withdrawing from Stocks last Friday. Cash is indeed King, and more folks will realize this in the next six months. It would be prudent for them to withdraw a substantial amount out of "whatever" and do what I have been doing. Even setting aside a small amount (grand a month in twenties until this problem levels out) could be a life saver if the S.H.T.F! There is no way to know what may happen...But!...just like having a gun, better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it!!!

Hope that helps...

108 posted on 03/17/2008 2:30:59 AM PDT by JDoutrider (No 2nd Amendment... Know Tyranny)
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes

I would suggest it, but then I will be paying more for heating oil and gas...


109 posted on 03/17/2008 2:31:40 AM PDT by iThinkBig
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To: koeman15

Spread them out in different accounts to $100k, what is guaranteed by FDIC. If the banks fail at this point, we are all really screwed...


110 posted on 03/17/2008 2:35:01 AM PDT by iThinkBig
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To: flaglady47

All except Russia which will resurface as allies with the other Arabs as the new monetary standard. Ever hear of mark of the beast? But don’t get too afraid, the beast goes off into destruction and 1,000 year reign of peace ensues. Of course 1/2 of mankind goes with it...


111 posted on 03/17/2008 2:37:51 AM PDT by iThinkBig
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes

I’ve seen a LOT of these “end of the world”, “Great Depression”, “the sky is falling” financial threads on Free Republic since I started reading here in 1998. Eventually several posters would chime in that it’s “not that bad” and we’ll be just fine.

This is the first thread I’ve seen in 10 years that is unanimous that the economy is in real trouble.


the cheerleaders have had to give up their internet connections to help pay credit card bills, and the public library is closed on weekends. They’ll be here bright and early Monday morning talking about buying opportunities in the stock market.


112 posted on 03/17/2008 2:48:50 AM PDT by kms61
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To: iThinkBig

Your eschatology (view of end times) is dispensational premillenialist. I’m a postmillenialist. While the current days are scary, I don’t believe they will end in the way you believe they will end.


113 posted on 03/17/2008 4:35:41 AM PDT by crghill (Postmillenial, theonomic, presuppositional, covenantal Calvinist! Let reconstruction begin!)
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To: bruinbirdman
The dollar will have a lot of company.

huh?

114 posted on 03/17/2008 5:50:09 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Benedict Arnold was against the Terrorist Surveillance Program)
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To: NormsRevenge

>> I am sure Ben is a nice enough guy and all, he lookes pained in the pic above

I am financially responsible, debt free, with cash in the bank.

Ben has my balls in a vise. You think he looks pained, you should see the expression on MY face! :-0

Hope he really is a nice guy and all... easy on that vise-handle, Ben! Thanks in advance!


115 posted on 03/17/2008 5:51:00 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (I'm not voting FOR John McCain -- I'm voting AGAINST Hillary/Obama)
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To: bruinbirdman

>> “Buy gold & silver (Everbank offers those accounts.) Gold will stay a valid currency” => “Oil just hit 111.48 on NYMEX. Buy oil.”

I think — hope! — that was tongue in cheek. Yes?


116 posted on 03/17/2008 5:57:08 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (I'm not voting FOR John McCain -- I'm voting AGAINST Hillary/Obama)
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To: Nervous Tick
We're all gonna die!!!!

117 posted on 03/17/2008 5:59:27 AM PDT by Lazamataz (We're all gonna die!!!!)
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To: Lazamataz

>> We’re all gonna die!!!!

Yeah, someday. Right now I’m just focused on the pain in my ‘nads.

But congratulations! Of all the financial prognostications, bluster, and hyperbole on this thread, yours is the ONLY one that is one hundred percent correct!


118 posted on 03/17/2008 6:08:47 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (I'm not voting FOR John McCain -- I'm voting AGAINST Hillary/Obama)
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To: Nervous Tick

It sucks being right all the time.


119 posted on 03/17/2008 6:12:19 AM PDT by Lazamataz (We're all gonna die!!!!)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
What happens if we stop buying Chinese and even pay them in full? That's less than one thousand dollars per citizen over there.

That $870 billion is going to cover a lot of military expenditures.

120 posted on 03/17/2008 6:12:24 AM PDT by Content Provider
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