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1 posted on 02/26/2008 11:57:21 AM PST by northmoor
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Mohammed Seminar?
The Islamic equivalent to the Jesus Seminar. The sound similar.


34 posted on 02/26/2008 12:24:21 PM PST by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we write in marble. JHuett)
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It says that a significant number of the sayings were never uttered by Muhammad . . .

That right there opens the theology of Islam up . . .

41 posted on 02/26/2008 12:30:52 PM PST by Greg F (Do you want a guy named Hussein to fix your soul? Michelle Obama thinks you do.)
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Does this mean that the 12th Imam can stay put in that well?

i shouldn’t joke as this does sound like a positive step.


42 posted on 02/26/2008 12:31:58 PM PST by SueRae
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You cant stick a cylinder into a square hole.. This religion is strictly 9th century hokum, no getting around it.


51 posted on 02/26/2008 12:46:14 PM PST by Nonstatist
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There may be hope for the planet yet... because until Islam leaves the 7th century, it will keep over a Billion people in despotism.


52 posted on 02/26/2008 12:49:41 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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Could be earth shaking: hope that they don't delay, I'll be happy to see it in installments.

...It's Turkey's statement that it needs to be considered now as a European nation.
...It's the promise of a european muslim state that is NOT part of 'greater albania', terrorism, or wahabiism.
...It's a potential rally point for moderate muslims - wherever they are.
...It's a chance to resolve issues with the Kurds (?/!)

Or, it's a pipe dream.
Or just cynical politics.

In any case, it's going to be dangerous to the power structure, and the masses, within Turkey.
If sincere, it will surely create enemies & require support from friends.
It could cause reorientation of islamist fervor - making us their likely best friend.

Fingers crossed.

54 posted on 02/26/2008 12:56:54 PM PST by norton ( There is no longer any choice)
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Kemal Ataturk would have approved. He wanted Turks to live in a modern, prosperous and peaceful society. The extreme to which he de-laicised Turkey had no precedent in the Muslim World. For him, the Ottoman Empire repressed the Turkish potential so they needed their own nation, without the obscurantism of the past and looking ahead to the future.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

68 posted on 02/26/2008 4:19:57 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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From the article:

But the Turkish state has come to see the Hadith as having an often negative influence on a society it is in a hurry to modernise...

Understatement of the year.

76 posted on 02/26/2008 5:06:28 PM PST by L.M.H.
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Some messages ban women from traveling without their husband's permission... But this isn't a religious ban. It came about because it simply wasn't safe for a woman to travel alone

And the Women themselves couldn't figure this out for 1300 years.
99 posted on 02/26/2008 8:25:16 PM PST by modican
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Cool, all the muslims will start issuing fatwas against the entire state of Turkey and they’ll leave us alone.

Allowing women to travel alone? What were they thinking?


121 posted on 02/26/2008 9:10:02 PM PST by Kevmo (SURFRINAGWIASS : Shut Up RINOs. Free Republic is not a GOP Website. It’s a SOCON Site.)
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This study must have been produced by that group named, “The Mohammad Seminar”.


137 posted on 02/26/2008 9:49:15 PM PST by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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Kelli Says:

February 27th, 2008 at 8:26 am
I don’t think this is going to be well received by many in the Islamic world, epecially the jihadists.

Let’s say that it does work, and Turkey leads the Muslim world in “modernizing” Islam (or at least appears to). This is going to make them appear to be progressive and enlightened. American and European liberals, who have been uncomfortable with Islam’s repression, but have since been very silent, will hail this as a breakthrough.

I can see these same intellectuals publically exhorting the “Fundamentalist Christians” to take Islam’s lead and “modernize” their beliefs.

Meanwhile, as Christians are drawn even farther to the fringes of society, and persecution increases because we are not “enlightened” enough, a leader will come out of this new interpretation of Islam which will be beloved by the UN types and will be given carte blanche to basically do anything he wants.

All while this is happening, Christians will be warning the world that it is all a lie, but we’ll be seen as “hatemongers” and dismissed…or worse.

http://www.joelstrumpet.com/?p=1102#comments


146 posted on 02/27/2008 9:25:52 AM PST by Squidpup ("Fight the Good Fight")
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This is welcome and long overdue.

Perhaps some progress will be seen.


147 posted on 02/27/2008 9:28:40 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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I wish them good luck.


148 posted on 02/27/2008 10:57:19 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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a revised little green book...LOL

We shall no longer chop hands off; we shall just chop fingers off one by one.


150 posted on 02/27/2008 1:52:42 PM PST by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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Who left the Methodists in?


161 posted on 02/27/2008 2:54:54 PM PST by moonman
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