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McCain says he could lose over war issue
YAHOO NEWS ^ | 25 FEBRUARY 2008 | AP

Posted on 02/25/2008 2:17:11 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist

ROCKY RIVER, Ohio - John McCain said Monday that to win the White House he must convince a war-weary country that U.S. policy in Iraq is succeeding. If he can't, "then I lose. I lose," the Republican said. He quickly backed off that remark.

"Let me not put it that stark," the likely GOP nominee told reporters on his campaign bus. "Let me just put it this way: Americans will judge my candidacy first and foremost on how they believe I can lead the county both from our economy and for national security. Obviously, Iraq will play a role in their judgment of my ability to handle national security."

"If I may, I'd like to retract 'I'll lose.' But I don't think there's any doubt that how they judge Iraq will have a direct relation to their judgment of me, my support of the surge," McCain added. "Clearly, I am tied to it to a large degree."

The five-year-old Iraq conflict already is emerging as a fault line in the general election, with the Arizona senator calling for the U.S. military to continue its mission while his Democratic opponents urge speedy withdrawal.

While most Republicans still back the war, many independents and Democrats don't. That presents a significant challenge for McCain and an opportunity for either Barack Obama or Hillary Rodham Clinton.

McCain acknowledged the war will be "a significant factor in how the American people judge my candidacy."

The lead Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee, McCain has consistently backed the war although he's long criticized the way it was waged after the Saddam Hussein's fall. He was an original proponent of President Bush's troop-increase strategy, having called for more forces on the ground for several years. Last spring, McCain went all in on the war by embracing it as Bush took heat for boosting troop levels to quell violence.

"We can fail in Iraq," McCain said Monday in an Associated Press interview. But, he added: "I see a clear path to success in Iraq." He defined that as fewer casualties and Iraqi troops taking over security to allow U.S. forces to return home. "All of us want out of Iraq, the question is how do we want out of Iraq," he added.

McCain has signaled that he plans to make Iraq and national security a major part of his general election campaign. Daily, he accuses both Obama and Clinton as wanting to "wave the white flag of surrender." Democrats, for their part, are arguing that McCain's candidacy is simply a continuation of Bush's "failed" policies. They have seized on a previous McCain remark in which he suggested that U.S. troop presence — at some level — could extend 100 years or more.

At a town hall-style meeting in suburban Cleveland, McCain accused Democrats of distorting that comment and sought to explain. "The war will be over soon, the war for all intents and purposes, although the insurgency will go on for years and years and years. But it will be handled by the Iraqis, not by us," he said. Like after other wars, he said, the United States then will decide "what kind of security arrangement we want to have with the Iraqis."

While McCain attracts voters across the political spectrum, he is sure to face resistance this fall for his Iraq position in Ohio and other swing states that have seen high numbers of residents die in Iraq.

Over the next eight months, McCain said he would take the same approach when discussing Iraq that he's taken all year as he won primary after primary on his way to securing the GOP nomination.

Speaking to reporters on his bus, he said he would "tell them that I understand their frustration and their sorrow over the sacrifice that has been made and then I try to explain to them what's at stake and what's going on there now. And that's the best I can do."

McCain said his candidacy will be successful "if I can convince the American people, the people of Ohio, that this is succeeding, that the casualties will continue down, although there are occasional spikes."

"So I have to, and I believe can, make an argument that the surge is succeeding, that we will end this war and have the Iraqis take over those responsibilities as we more and more assume support roles and then withdraw," he added.

McCain recalled reading a USA Today poll that he said showed most people believe the troop-increase strategy is succeeding, and said: "Now, still the majority of Americans want out of Iraq. And, I understand that, too. So do I."

The survey actually found that 43 percent — not a majority — said the troop increase is "making the situation there better," up from 22 percent in July.

Asked why he asked to retract the "I lose" remark, McCain said much else could impact his chances.

"We've got many months to go before the general election," he said. "But is Iraq an important part of the judgment that people will make of me, of course."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; issues; mccain

1 posted on 02/25/2008 2:17:14 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
MCCAIN TRIES TO CLARIFY "100-YEAR" REMARK
2 posted on 02/25/2008 2:18:54 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

So he is worried about the ONE THING he has RIGHT!

What a maroon!


3 posted on 02/25/2008 2:19:52 PM PST by Hazcat (We won an immigration BATTLE, the WAR is not over. Be ever vigilant.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Well he’s a straight talker anyway.


4 posted on 02/25/2008 2:21:13 PM PST by Steely Tom (Steely's First Law of the Main Stream Media: if it doesn't advance the agenda, it's not news.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Hey McCain, the surge worked. It’s not a issue. It’s the economy, stupid.


5 posted on 02/25/2008 2:21:47 PM PST by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Nice try ap,illegal immigration is why mccain will lose.


6 posted on 02/25/2008 2:22:06 PM PST by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served,to keep us free)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I can see any number of ways McCain can lose, without bringing up Iraq.


7 posted on 02/25/2008 2:23:03 PM PST by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
McCain will have more trouble answering for the economy than for the war. I hope he is recruiting a first rate economic advisor team.
8 posted on 02/25/2008 2:23:21 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Welll..so much for our ‘Fearless Leader’..(Cue Eye Roll)


9 posted on 02/25/2008 2:23:25 PM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: KDD; logician2u; traviskicks

McNut acknowledges that the majority are against the war and that it can factor in the election.


10 posted on 02/25/2008 2:23:29 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Hazcat
Tell me about it ....

“ROCKY RIVER, Ohio - John McCain said Monday that to win the White House he must convince a war-weary country that U.S. policy in Iraq is succeeding. If he can’t, “then I lose. I lose,” the Republican said. He quickly backed off that remark.”

Why not TALK up the SUCCCESS coupled with us withdrawing victorious. We do have a victory there.

McCain is a MORON!

11 posted on 02/25/2008 2:24:36 PM PST by nmh (Mike Huckabee the "religious" humanist that pushes socialism! (Clinton/Carter combo))
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To: mdittmar

Nice try ap,illegal immigration is why mccain will lose.

Agree McCain needs to run some polls as somewhere over 60% of voters are against amnesty and he still doesn’t get it, no amnesty is a winner when the other side is for it. That and the war in Iraq will get him the win. Heck I might even vote for him.


12 posted on 02/25/2008 2:25:57 PM PST by rolling_stone (same)
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To: mdittmar

That too ... ILLEGAL immigration is a loser. He’s ALL for it. Of late, he believes that Americans want a FENCE and then ILLEGAL amnesty would be okay. Rollng my eyes ... .


13 posted on 02/25/2008 2:26:15 PM PST by nmh (Mike Huckabee the "religious" humanist that pushes socialism! (Clinton/Carter combo))
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To: Hazcat

He should check his sack before he speaks. Pahleeese.


14 posted on 02/25/2008 2:29:01 PM PST by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Yes, but not bloody likely. If he loses, I doubt it will be because of that.


15 posted on 02/25/2008 2:33:07 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Support for the surge was really all McCain ran on.

The Dem candidate will continue to push the Iraq War as an issue. And in another 8 months or so, even more people will be tired of it.

If that is all McCain has to run on in November, barring a major terrorist attack or OBL threat/video, McCain will be running on fumes.

If Obama or Clinton continue to resurrect the 1992 theme, It’s the economy, Stupid, McCain is sunk. McCain as much as admitted he didn’t know much about the economy — and voters cast their votes based on their pocketbooks.


16 posted on 02/25/2008 2:45:39 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"McNut acknowledges that the majority are against the war and that it can factor in the election."

McCain is worried that Paulrhoids like yourself will not vote for him since he doesn't buy the "why do they hate us" bullshit like your idiot messiah Ron Paul.

17 posted on 02/25/2008 2:50:04 PM PST by lormand (Paulrhoids - The Hemorrhoids of American Politics)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
It won't be the economy that does him in. He is running against two tax and spend communists.

Americans similarly will not walk away from a war we are winning.

It's your Amnesty John !

Regards

18 posted on 02/25/2008 3:00:31 PM PST by ARE SOLE (Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment.. (A "Concerned Citizen".)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
The Iraq war is not the focus of the American public’s concern as much as the rising cost of energy in this nation. We need to be drilling in the United States. We have our own oil. If McCain would get off this global warming fraud and start straight talking nuclear energy and other energy technologies that come from the free enterprise system, he would kick the DemonRAT’s rears this November.

He needs to call for a roll back of all the environmental regulations that hamstring energy development in this country.

19 posted on 02/25/2008 3:00:54 PM PST by jonrick46
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Senator McCain. Please step aside and let others lead.
20 posted on 02/25/2008 3:01:45 PM PST by Vision ("If God so clothes the grass of the field...will He not much more clothe you...?" -Matthew 6:30)
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To: Vision

“Senator McCain. Please step aside and let others lead.”

Nothing like talking about how he will lose! Huckabee is looking better the more McCain opens his mouth. SAD!


21 posted on 02/25/2008 3:07:51 PM PST by seekthetruth
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To: seekthetruth

McCain will lose because he will throw the election. Just like Bob Dole did in 1996.


22 posted on 02/25/2008 3:12:05 PM PST by nygoose
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To: lormand

blah blah blah...


23 posted on 02/25/2008 3:14:01 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I came home to a recording from mccanniac last week - claiming he was a Reagan R. Today I came home to one from Gov Perry - claiming the same thing. Who are they trying to kid!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!


24 posted on 02/25/2008 3:18:38 PM PST by mathluv
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To: lormand

Now, now, lormand!! Watch the language!!


25 posted on 02/25/2008 3:37:19 PM PST by levotb
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To: nmh

Eggxactly right, nmh!

The war is a “no win” for McCain, because Bush won’t end it and because McCain has said we’ll be there with troops “...for 100 years”. How could ANYone vote for such idiocy? In the first place, the war is bankrupting the country. This thing cannot go on. It’s a financial thin as much as a moral one.

But the Invasion by Mexico to the tune of 5,000-10,000 a day continues unabated and McCain obviously won’t do anything to stop it or to deport the 40 million already here.


26 posted on 02/25/2008 3:40:57 PM PST by levotb
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To: levotb

“In the first place, the war is bankrupting the country.”

How so? What percentage of GDP is spent on military in the United States and which candidate do you feel will slash our military budget the most?

“This thing cannot go on. It’s a financial thin as much as a moral one.”

What is immoral about our continued commitment to Iraq?


28 posted on 02/25/2008 4:02:46 PM PST by death2tyrants
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To: jonrick46
The Iraq war is not the focus of the American public’s concern as much as the rising cost of energy in this nation. We need to be drilling in the United States. We have our own oil. If McCain would get off this global warming fraud and start straight talking nuclear energy and other energy technologies that come from the free enterprise system, he would kick the DemonRAT’s rears this November.

NBC News/Wall Street Journal Poll conducted by the polling organizations of Peter Hart (D) and Bill McInturff (R). Jan. 20-22, 2008. N=1,008 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3.1.

. "Let me list some issues that have been proposed for the federal government to address. Please tell me which one of these items you think should be the top priority for the federal government. [See below.]" If more than one: "Well, if you had to choose just one, which do you think should be the top priority?"

. Job creation and economic growth 26 %
The war in Iraq 17
Health care 17
Terrorism 10
Illegal immigration 10
Energy and the cost of gas 7
The environment and global warming 6
Foreign policy and Iran 5

While I agree McCain should push for domestic energy production and nuclear power, he is very close when he says the Iraq war is the big issue. It is #2 in every poll taken in the last 6 months. You can see #1. Immigration is bottom 5.

29 posted on 02/25/2008 4:16:51 PM PST by muleskinner
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To: Hazcat

He’s worried about it because it is not a strong issue for him in the general. The war, no matter how “rah rah” Repubs are over it, is NOT a popular issue over all.


30 posted on 02/25/2008 4:20:24 PM PST by Grunthor (McCain voters believe that it's possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

You are correct sir.


31 posted on 02/25/2008 4:21:39 PM PST by Grunthor (McCain voters believe that it's possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

There is one simple fact. If Folded Bones McCain was to simply say look, we are throwing all we have at those pissant terroristes and we will not repeat we will not come home until the job is done GET”R DUN, and that may take a thousand years or ten million, so suck it peacenicks!

He would thereby win the election.

But he will win it anyway, and that is what must be faced. American will not vote for a Socialist no matter what color. Red, whatever.


32 posted on 02/25/2008 4:36:43 PM PST by Diapus in Corn (I've fallen with a touch of gront.)
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To: blackelkspeaks

YOU’VE GOT TO BE KIDDING!! McCain, “modern”? NOT!!


33 posted on 02/25/2008 4:36:46 PM PST by levotb
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To: hinckley buzzard
I hope he is recruiting a first rate economic advisor team.

Sure, he is. At least he says he is, even if he couldn't answer the question put to him.

If you believe Jack Kemp, Phil Gramm, Warren Rudman, Pete Peterson and the Concord Coalition combined will save his (and our) bacon, there's this bridge that's for sale cheap back on the east coast . . .

34 posted on 02/25/2008 5:36:33 PM PST by logician2u
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To: blackelkspeaks
Today, the use of the term RINO in a pejorative sense no longer has any meaning. The fact is McCain is the face of the modern Republican Party. In truth, its an ugly group of closet-Marxists where those who love freedom and liberty are not wanted and need not apply.

You have pretty well summed it up, blackelkspeaks, as much as I'd like to believe otherwise.

Other than support for worldwide military adventurism, which all but one of the Republican candidates shared, there's not a whole lot of McCain's positions that strike a chord with most of us on Free Republic. I know it's a bit troubling for FReepers to know they are out-of-step with "modern Republicanism," but if the shoe fits . . .

35 posted on 02/25/2008 5:47:49 PM PST by logician2u
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Nah, it will be his Howard Dean moment .... yeaaaaaah!


36 posted on 02/25/2008 5:51:33 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (No mas Juan "Traitor Rat" McAmnesty)
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To: Diapus in Corn
Americans are tough, but not that tough, or that desperate.

BTW, welcome to FreeRepublic.

37 posted on 02/25/2008 5:54:22 PM PST by logician2u
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Iraq isn’t the biggest issue. He has the WOT right - the only thing I can say about him.

People vote their pocketbooks. I think the economy is the biggest issue, followed by immigration/WOT. At least to the people who used to be called “the base”, but now are called “expendable”.


38 posted on 02/25/2008 5:56:50 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Election 2008: Now the evil of two lessers.)
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To: muleskinner
Your survey results show the economy as the number 1 concern for the American public. The War in Iraq is second. I believe there is a relationship between stability in the Middle East and this nation’s economic health. I don’t know if the American people are aware of this relationship. I do see as energy costs have risen, the economy has suffered. Energy costs are starting to have their effect on an economy that has been, up to now, robust enough to resist its effects. However, when gasoline reaches $4.00/gallon this summer, will the breaking point be reached? When Americans start losing jobs as a result of the over-regulating bureaucrats, the schemes by the Global Warming Greenies will look like energy suicide. I hope McCain is able to listen to such people as General Motors Vice Chairman Robert Lutz who calls global warming “a total crock.”

Health care is another subject I leave for others. Let me say this: health care costs have increased as the Government pays the bill which puts a straitjacket on market forces.

39 posted on 02/25/2008 10:13:49 PM PST by jonrick46
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To: blackelkspeaks
Well said.

Btw, I like your name. Black Elk Speaks is a beautiful book.

40 posted on 02/26/2008 9:07:56 AM PST by ARridgerunner
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To: Steely Tom

You may call it “straight talk” but I’d call it something else if a minute, hour or day or more later he has to “retract, edit revise and extend” what he said. He still won’t say what he has to say about illegal immigration. The best he can say is that “it won’t come up for a vote.”


41 posted on 02/26/2008 9:12:32 AM PST by Gaffer
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