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More armed people would bring more impulsive shootings
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | 2/21/08 | FREDERICK J. ROKASKY

Posted on 02/21/2008 8:59:18 AM PST by relictele

In 1979 I carried a gun. I had a permit to do so. It was a 9 mm Browning automatic with 14 rounds in a clip. The reason I had a weapon was because I handled large sums of money, and my boss suggested that it might be a good idea. I carried my 9 mm every time I went out...

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There you have it folks!

Guns are impulsive! They will jump off the table and into your hand then fire themselves!

This enlightened individual also wants a return to the black powder & lead ball days and he's not just talking about historical reenactments.

Thanks and good night - you can all go home now. Frederick Rokasky of Banksville PA has written the last words on the subject.

Sarcasm aside it saddens me that this kind of ignorance and naivete can still exist.

1 posted on 02/21/2008 8:59:21 AM PST by relictele
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To: relictele
Sarcasm aside it saddens me that this kind of ignorance and naivete can still exist.

It's not ignorance or naivete. The left wants us disarmed because it's easier to force a disarmed populace to submit to tyranny. That's all this is about.
2 posted on 02/21/2008 9:01:51 AM PST by Antoninus (How did you come to Barack?)
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To: relictele

Like I said: ignorance and naivete...

(address redacted) zip 15220
Person Candidate
Frederick Rokasky
Democrat
Q4/2007
John Edwards
$325


3 posted on 02/21/2008 9:02:24 AM PST by relictele (Liberal: one who walks away from a TSA queue still convinced government can solve problems.)
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To: relictele
It was a 9 mm Browning automatic with 14 rounds in a clip

In 1979? This is code for "I am a jagoff who watched Serpico too many times."

4 posted on 02/21/2008 9:03:57 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: relictele

Not a wise investor either. :)


5 posted on 02/21/2008 9:04:36 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: relictele

Good taste in pistols; I’ll give him that much.


6 posted on 02/21/2008 9:05:16 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
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To: relictele

WoW

I’ve never seen a Browning automatic in 9mm that used “Clips”

I have fired a “semi-automatic” pistol produced by Browning that uses “magazines” however.


7 posted on 02/21/2008 9:05:36 AM PST by MD_Willington_1976
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To: relictele

Wait until they join forces with the SUVs. Then nobody will be safe.


8 posted on 02/21/2008 9:05:36 AM PST by Hoffer Rand
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To: Antoninus

YEP!

DISARMED GERMAN JEWS AND THE HOLOCAUST!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg9q9sxJFnA

WHY DO THEY WANT OUR GUNS?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j73SsNFgBO4


9 posted on 02/21/2008 9:05:40 AM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: relictele

Guns are “impulsive”

I don’t believe this person ever carried.


10 posted on 02/21/2008 9:05:44 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: relictele

Before the handgun permit was enacted in Alaska people were sure it would lead to all kinds of new statistics. However, it appears to have made no difference whatsoever. Snowmachines, though, are very, very dangerous.


11 posted on 02/21/2008 9:08:12 AM PST by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: relictele

Yeah. I mean everyone knows that CCW holders are sooooo impulsive. They would shoot you for just being rude.

Thats why they have a lower rate of law breaking than, say, cops.


12 posted on 02/21/2008 9:08:13 AM PST by Little Ray (So its McCain or Huckabee? Pass me the bloody KoolAid.)
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To: relictele

This is why our country is doomed, because good people like us allow others to get away with abandoning personal responsibility. The irresponsible deserve to die...


13 posted on 02/21/2008 9:08:48 AM PST by Chucktallica101 (Cheer up! All the people you hate will eventually die.)
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To: relictele

Anyone that impulsive and prone to a “what-the-hell” aggression as he described should not be allowed to drive a car, either. Cars kill more people than guns, and I’m sure that aggressive and reckless driving is behind some of those fatalities.


14 posted on 02/21/2008 9:08:50 AM PST by TexasRepublic (When hopelessness replaces hope, it opens the door to evil.)
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To: relictele
Worst Letter Ever!!
15 posted on 02/21/2008 9:09:16 AM PST by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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To: relictele

Admittedly, this Weedhopper was armed, so who did *HE* shoot?

No one??? Well then he proves his ‘theory’ holds no water.

What a tool!


16 posted on 02/21/2008 9:09:41 AM PST by RedRightReturn (Do you know how to catch wild pigs?)
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To: TheKidster
Worst Letter Ever!!


17 posted on 02/21/2008 9:10:03 AM PST by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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To: relictele

As usual a lefty can’t trust himself and used the gun to feel “powerful” so of course, everyone must be the same inadequate impulsive, weenie that he is.


18 posted on 02/21/2008 9:10:21 AM PST by Hazcat (We won an immigration BATTLE, the WAR is not over. Be ever vigilant.)
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To: relictele
In 1979 I carried a gun. I had a permit to do so. It was a 9 mm Browning automatic with 14 rounds in a clip. The reason I had a weapon was because I handled large sums of money, and my boss suggested that it might be a good idea. I carried my 9 mm every time I went out...

OK, Fred, so if more armed people would bring more impulsive shootings, HOW MANY IMPULSIVE SHOOTINGS WERE YOU INVOLVED IN? How many times did you, on an impulse, whip out your gat and start poppin' a cap in someone's ass?

19 posted on 02/21/2008 9:10:25 AM PST by VRWCmember (McCain 2008 - If it's inevitable, you might as well lay back and try to enjoy it.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Guns are "impulsive" and deadly. That is the problem with modern firearms. People, usually under stress, don't have the time to think what they are doing.

Guess I better get counseling for all my firearms to get that 'impulsive' nature out of them.

20 posted on 02/21/2008 9:10:27 AM PST by Pistolshot (Remember, no matter how bad your life is, someone is watching and enjoying your suffering.)
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To: relictele
--Snip--
......Guns encourage the quick and impulsive......
--Snip--

Nitwit! IF everybody was armed people would tend to be less "impulsive" because the "target" could shoot back.

Click Here

21 posted on 02/21/2008 9:10:33 AM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: relictele

“It was a 9 mm Browning automatic with 14 rounds in a clip.”

Arrest that felon! Automatic weapons are prohibited.

I’m growing weary of these talking heads, stuffed shirts and empty suits pontificating on concepts over which they have no command and in which they have little understanding.

In my view, gun control is: Solid stance, clear sight picture, control the breathing, and squeeze the trigger.

It’s in the tagline.


22 posted on 02/21/2008 9:10:54 AM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion)
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To: VRWCmember

GMTA


23 posted on 02/21/2008 9:11:43 AM PST by RedRightReturn (Do you know how to catch wild pigs?)
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To: Antoninus

most of them don’t realize the dark powers that are manipulating them, though. They are do gooders and think that the lack of guns will be good. They are deceived by the darkness playing like the good guy in their minds. The fhu.com has a really great “be still” free download for those who would like to become free from the insanity that works through our minds. We are living in a matrix, it’s difficult to see lost in thoughts.


24 posted on 02/21/2008 9:11:44 AM PST by fabian
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To: relictele
Sarcasm aside it saddens me that this kind of ignorance and naivete can still exist.

Don't read the rest of the letters at the link, then. Pretty much all of them advocate disasterous socialist ideals of some kind or another.

25 posted on 02/21/2008 9:12:44 AM PST by LambSlave
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To: relictele
Funny... Browning doesn't make a 9mm pistol that uses a clip. All the ones I see listed use a magazine.

Also, EVERYWHERE carry laws have been loosened, "impulsive" shootings have dropped, not increased. The "blood in the streets" doom and gloom never happens. Same for road rage.

Speaking personally, I find that carrying a firearm makes me feel more confident and less apt to get angry over stupid stuff. Quite the opposite of the authors idiotic premise.

26 posted on 02/21/2008 9:12:47 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Pistolshot
Guess I better get counseling for all my firearms to get that 'impulsive' nature out of them.

I had to lock mine in a safe because they were going out drinking and fighting at night.

27 posted on 02/21/2008 9:12:48 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: MD_Willington_1976

Beat me to it. I could have saved myself the typing had I read further down the thread before posting. ;-)


28 posted on 02/21/2008 9:13:42 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: TheKidster

Then here’s another one from Fred you might enjoy!

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07342/840174-35.stm


29 posted on 02/21/2008 9:13:59 AM PST by relictele (Liberal: one who walks away from a TSA queue still convinced government can solve problems.)
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To: relictele
More armed people would bring more impulsive shootings.

In fact, it doesn't. In state after state that has passed concealed carry laws, the violent crime rate went down.

How do the leftists respond when such evidence refutes their cherished beliefs?

Why, they lie about it...

30 posted on 02/21/2008 9:14:33 AM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
" It was a 9 mm Browning automatic with 14 rounds in a clip

In 1979? This is code for "I am a jagoff who watched Serpico too many times."

Supported by the fact that he never bothered to learn the difference in a "clip" and a "magazine".

I hope the paper that published this gets a few rebuttals to this lackey of the silky pony...

31 posted on 02/21/2008 9:14:53 AM PST by OKSooner
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To: Tijeras_Slim
My problem is they keep fighting with each other in the safe, and it keeps me awake at night.

So I had to threaten them with taking away their ammo for a week. That settled them down.

32 posted on 02/21/2008 9:15:03 AM PST by Pistolshot (Remember, no matter how bad your life is, someone is watching and enjoying your suffering.)
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To: LambSlave
Don't read the rest of the letters at the link, then. Pretty much all of them advocate disasterous socialist ideals of some kind or another.

That's the P-G for you. Capitalism built Pittsburgh but these people somehow believe socialism will revive it.

33 posted on 02/21/2008 9:15:28 AM PST by relictele (Liberal: one who walks away from a TSA queue still convinced government can solve problems.)
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To: MD_Willington_1976
I have a Winchester 22 automatic but it doesn’t have a clip or a magazine.
34 posted on 02/21/2008 9:15:50 AM PST by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Dead Corpse

sorry.. lol

The only firearm I had with “clips” was an Enfield .303, and that used Stripper Clips !!


35 posted on 02/21/2008 9:16:17 AM PST by MD_Willington_1976
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To: relictele

From the article: “When the year ended I sold the gun back to the gun shop I bought it from, for what I paid for it. I was glad it was gone.”

Fred...you did the right thing. We are all safer by your actions. Just be hopeful that someone without your confused sense of morality is around to help you out when the fecal matter comes in direct contact with the rotating air current generator.

Lock and Load.


36 posted on 02/21/2008 9:16:45 AM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion)
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To: Beagle8U

Nomenclatures

Early on, self loading rifles and pistols were called “automatics”

and most people understood they reloaded automatically, but were not machine guns

Now people are so ignorant that they figure “automatic” is a machine gun that can empty itself with one trigger pull...


37 posted on 02/21/2008 9:18:07 AM PST by MD_Willington_1976
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To: relictele

“It was a 9 mm Browning automatic with 14 rounds in a clip.”

No, it wasn’t.


38 posted on 02/21/2008 9:18:20 AM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight.)
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To: relictele

Those who beat their swords into plow shears will plow for those who do not!
Famous quote


39 posted on 02/21/2008 9:18:37 AM PST by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: relictele

Man alive, that would cause waves or orgasmic pleasure all through the congress if they were to read that. I bet some of the elder statemen would absolutely die in a state of ecstatic euphoria.

Fred is a complete idiot in the same vein as the nazi youth!
I am literally more afraid of people like him than murderers and terrorists.


40 posted on 02/21/2008 9:18:44 AM PST by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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To: Pistolshot

Throw a Hi Point or Lorcin in the safe and they’ll all pick on it and leave each other alone.


41 posted on 02/21/2008 9:20:51 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: relictele

Classical case of projection. He believes that his unacceptable thoughts can actually be influenced by an inanimate object, therefor NO ONE should have guns.


42 posted on 02/21/2008 9:21:57 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: relictele

What do you expect from that commie rag “The Pittsburgh Post Gazette?

The Trib-Review is the ONLY paper worth reading in the Steel City and even Scaife’s paper is more of a Rockefeller Republican organ.


43 posted on 02/21/2008 9:23:45 AM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("There is no civility, only politics.")
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To: OKSooner

Clip-magazine-in some circles the terms are very interchangeable, although not technically correct.

His poor use of terms should not be the issue we focus on, rather the elitist/statist bent of his monotribe.

The liberal media knows what it is doing-confusing the facts (the sun does in fact rise in the east, just as the right to self-defense (with arms) is a fact, enacted both by our Creator, not by a group of men with liberty on their minds, they simply wrote it down.

Man tends to counterfeit all of God’s principles (thereby elevating man to some higher level, I guess).

The problem is that many if not most Americans swallow these camels w/o a sinlge gag reflex....

That is the scary part!

MOLON LABE

God Bless


44 posted on 02/21/2008 9:24:24 AM PST by Manly Warrior (US Army, Retired)
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To: Little Ray
Thats why they have a lower rate of law breaking than, say, cops.

Do you have link for that? It's not that I doubt it, I believe it with all my heart. It's just useful to have sources when arguing with hoplophobes. Not that facts have any effect on the mentally ill.

45 posted on 02/21/2008 9:25:03 AM PST by magslinger (cranky right-winger)
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To: PubliusMM

And the goobermint should ban knives and forks too. Only plastic sporks (spoon with slight fork cuts in the tip) should be allowed. The goobermint should come around and cut people’s food for them. That is the only safe thing to do. People just can’t be trusted.


46 posted on 02/21/2008 9:25:28 AM PST by MtnClimber ("Bullfighting, Mountain Climbing and Auto-Racing are the only real sports. Everything else are merel)
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To: fabian

Is this similar to the techniques revealed in “The Cloud of Unknowing”?


47 posted on 02/21/2008 9:26:31 AM PST by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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To: MD_Willington_1976
M1 uses enbloc clips. I have ammo clips for loading my AR magazines with.

Picking a nit, but it pretty much shows the authors lack of serious firearms knowledge.

48 posted on 02/21/2008 9:28:15 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Thanks!!! Now I have to clean off BOTH monitors.

too funny.

49 posted on 02/21/2008 9:28:50 AM PST by Pistolshot (Remember, no matter how bad your life is, someone is watching and enjoying your suffering.)
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To: Dick Bachert

50 posted on 02/21/2008 9:29:05 AM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("There is no civility, only politics.")
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