Hey Svengali... what do you see here?
Posted on 02/12/2008 5:37:53 PM PST by gobucks
I am no Clemens fan, but it is hard for me to believe anything produced by George Mitchell.
“The country is going down the tube and people are getting their panties in a wad over happenings in baseball.It’s the “Bread and Circuses” Roman thing all over again.”
It’s easier to play the fiddle than to put out the fires.
If you look deeper, you’ll find that Giambi’s agent had the word ‘steroids’ taken out of his Uniform Player Contract when it was originally signed, and the Yankees were just fine with that, because they knew the score. So the whole story about them possibly voiding that contract was a sham, the Yankees were in on it. And that’s one of the biggest problems with this whole mess, the teams, the players, and the Commissioner’s Office have all known this was going on for years, and they let it happen knowingly. So everyone is dirty, which makes it hard for anyone to point any fingers.
You must be a Blosox fan...
McNamee (sp?) is a low life weasel! What kind of a trainer would keep a used syringe from 2001 that he claims he used on Clemens? Sell it as baseball memorabilia? Or perhaps a tool for potential blackmail? If the weasel is telling the truth then I have to believe it was for potential blackmail.....
“The country is going down the tube”
Unreal isn’t it.
That is one of my first worries, if Clemens took steroids.
Nothing better than seeing a Yankee go down in disgrace. The only thing that would make me happier is to see the whole damn team move to Las Vegas.
I really hate seeing this. Roger Clemens has always been my hero and now he is just another liar. Sad to see this. To make matters worse, this McNamee guy is a little nerd that sold out his friend and client. This was not something that had to be drug out before congress, this issue has been an ongoing problem and baseball is handling it now. At least Knoblock and Pettit have the character to tell the truth under oath and face the consequences. At the end of the day they can face their kids and fans and know that they were real men and not afraid of the truth. Clemens has about as much character as Bill Clinton. I am just blown away about this.
I agree. There is too much corroborating testimony to McNamee for him to be lying. Plus, Clemens had already weired me out by his determination to play way past his prime. Juice would help with that. And saying his wife took juice but he only took b-12. Puleeze.
I dislike Congress’ holier-than-thou persecution of anyone they feel like persecuting much more than Clemens’ lying. Having some gray-hair with his nose out of joint holding up your old MRI results and going on about the state of your buttocks should be punishment enough.
I think there's more to the guy than what has been exhibited so far. Clemens just made a statement that McNamee once told him he had a PHD and was a doctor which was one of the reasons why he trusted him.
Over my lifetime I have encountered a number of people who I would consider out and out liars and not trustworthy. Then there are two people who really stand out because they were bonafide, pathological liars.
One was a supervisor at work who it was discovered virtually lied about everything he said or did. Then I had a female neighbor in my apartment building who lived with her boyfriend who I thought was real friendly so I trusted her to water my plants when I took a week vacation. When I got home my computer printer was gone and she gave me a questionable story about why she took it to her brother who was a computer repair guy. I eventually got the printer back. She also worked part time at a small deli and the owner was telling he loaned her some money and she never returned.......To make a long story short, she was crazier than a loon but yet you had no reason to doubt any of the stuff she told you because it was so believable. Once I found out from the deli guy some of the stories she told him I then realized what she was.
This McNamee guy reminds me of these two people......
What took you so long to see the truth, and what did you see and hear today that convinced you?
The fact that he was lying for them before he got caught and had to come clean. Now the other two have admitted their actions but Clemens is parsing words and engaging in charachter assassination. What a disappointment. He looked like Bill Clinton pointing his finger and lying through his teeth.
Clemens is trying to save himself from total humiliation; a life wasted in dishonorable pursuit. No small thing, that.
Clemons is as guilty as hell.
-—You must be a Blosox fan...
Not in a millon years. I know a cheater when I see one.
When I posted this story yesterday, I was sort of hoping that Clemens would say something, anything, to the kids out there. What he didn't say came through loud and clear:
"Everyone cheats, even the great ones like me.
So, kids, be smarter than I was and don't get caught. And if you do, lie with fierceness.....like me, your hero, Roger Clemens."
Now, I reflect about Johnny Bench, and imagine that when he was playing, he was ok. I'll keeping imagining that....and simply assume its true....
When I posted this story yesterday, I was sort of hoping that Clemens would say something, anything, to the kids out there. What he didn't say came through loud and clear:
"Everyone cheats, even the great ones like me.
So, kids, be smarter than I was and don't get caught. And if you do, lie with fierceness.....like me, your hero, Roger Clemens."
Now, I reflect about Johnny Bench, and imagine that when he was playing, he was ok. I'll keep imagining that....and simply assume its true....
Hey Svengali... what do you see here?
What are you talking about? It is irrelevant
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