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For Conservatives the only hope now lies with retaking the Congress
myself | 23 January 2008 | trueblackman

Posted on 01/23/2008 7:23:23 AM PST by Trueblackman

As a true Conservative I was completely dishearted when Duncan Hunter dropped out of the race for President and I was willing to stay home this coming Election, but after a few days of deep thought, I feel like I can't stand on the sidelines as liberals in the White House and Congress have free reign to run my nation into the ground.

I served my nation with honor and pride, so I am now searching for truly Conservative Congressional Candidates to elect to majorities in both the House and Senate to limit the damage that a liberal Democrat or Republican can do to this nation.

Conservatives have to draw the line on reckless spending, government growth and massive entitlements that have never worked.

It is better to destroy within than to stand on the sidelines and do nothing.


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Conservatives need to regain the reigns of power within the Congress.
1 posted on 01/23/2008 7:23:24 AM PST by Trueblackman
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To: Trueblackman

You’re right, but we have to recruit conservative candidates to run. The usual RINOs in Congress won’t do.


2 posted on 01/23/2008 7:24:39 AM PST by B Knotts (If McCain wins, we lose.)
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To: Trueblackman
It is better to destroy within than to stand on the sidelines and do nothing.

Mega bump my FRiend.

3 posted on 01/23/2008 7:24:43 AM PST by mnehring
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To: Trueblackman

Should have been planning that all along


4 posted on 01/23/2008 7:26:09 AM PST by rhombus
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To: Trueblackman

It is time for members of FR to run for Congress.


5 posted on 01/23/2008 7:26:14 AM PST by roses of sharon
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To: Trueblackman

That’s kinda the way I’m looking at it. Conservatives retook the house seat from a RINO in my district in the last election. Now we just need to throw Carl Levin and Debbie Stabenow into lake Michigan.


6 posted on 01/23/2008 7:26:55 AM PST by cripplecreek (Duncan Hunter, Conservative excellence in action.)
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To: Trueblackman

I agree. Except that I have decided that most conservatives (and born again Christians) have become cowards.


7 posted on 01/23/2008 7:27:55 AM PST by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: Trueblackman

Certainly agree 100%, in fact we never had a conservative Senate majority under Bush, unfortunately the Northeast (and other) RINOs were a significant part of the republican majority.

That should tell you how daunting it will be to elect a real conservative majority. Please folks, don’t think for a second you are putting a conservative majority in the Senate while the country elects a liberal democrat president. It just doesn’t work that way.


8 posted on 01/23/2008 7:30:32 AM PST by Williams
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To: Trueblackman

it wont happen this year but theres a shot at 2010. if a dem wins the presidency, the gop will most likely win the house in 2010. the senate looks a little tougher but definitely possible. could be looking at another revolution like ‘94, after 2 years of complete liberal power (both houses of congress and presidency) ripping apart the country.

if one of our rinos wins the presidency, look for the dems to increase their majorities in both chambers come 2010.


9 posted on 01/23/2008 7:30:57 AM PST by philsfan24
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To: Trueblackman

Although I am blessed to have great representation in DC, I should take up a “foster” candidate in some other district to support if that will help.


10 posted on 01/23/2008 7:32:24 AM PST by lormand (Paulrhoids - The Hemorrhoids of American Politics)
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To: Trueblackman
I don’t agree. Right now the Democratic candidates (all of them) are SOOOO Liberal and despite the shades of gray the MSM likes to explore.... that whichever one of them may win the WH, there will be instantaneous and irreversible changes for the worse across the board for this country.

Take a good look at Education, Health Care, the economy, the military, foreign policy, etc. as they are now. These things will be so changed, so fast once Liberals are in the WH that America will be FOREVER unrecognizable to you. These changes WILL be irreversible. Think about that and see if doesn’t keep you awake at night.

11 posted on 01/23/2008 7:33:26 AM PST by SMARTY (Public opinion has the power of the lie/creating it is the work of radical politicians in a democra)
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To: Trueblackman

bump


12 posted on 01/23/2008 7:33:30 AM PST by jedward
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To: lormand; Congressman Billybob

Ping


13 posted on 01/23/2008 7:34:06 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: cripplecreek
Now we just need to throw Carl Levin and Debbie Stabenow into lake Michigan.

Oh no....... TSUNAMI Warning! :-D

14 posted on 01/23/2008 7:34:23 AM PST by tiredoflaundry (I guess I'm back to square one..............)
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To: lormand

Duncan Hunter’s son is running for his dad’s congressional seat.


15 posted on 01/23/2008 7:35:08 AM PST by cripplecreek (Duncan Hunter, Conservative excellence in action.)
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To: tiredoflaundry

Well don’t tell Chicago.


16 posted on 01/23/2008 7:35:42 AM PST by cripplecreek (Duncan Hunter, Conservative excellence in action.)
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To: Trueblackman
"Conservatives have to draw the line on reckless spending, government growth and massive entitlements that have never worked."

Very true. But how are the Conservatives going to overcome the Republicans?

17 posted on 01/23/2008 7:36:18 AM PST by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: Trueblackman
True, but they can't stop THIS & if a Republican doesn't win the presidency, the courts will go left for the next few decades! :-(


18 posted on 01/23/2008 7:36:27 AM PST by pookie18 (Of course I'm voting for the Republican nominee!)
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To: Trueblackman
We've got little shot there, either. The RNC is run by pro-amnesty, anti-soccon flaks put in place by G. W. Bush. This situation will probably be made worse by whoever his successor is if he wins in November.

We're looking at permanent minority status again in the Congress.

If that's the case, I'm hoping for a replacement party to spring up in time for 2012. The social/religious conservative base of the party will not wander in the wilderness for long.
19 posted on 01/23/2008 7:39:57 AM PST by Antoninus (I survived Roe v. Wade. 40,000,000 of my generation did not.)
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To: Trueblackman
Heeeey.... TBM....
Thanks for this post!
You've nailed it...

Please permit me to add:

Perhaps this has always been our BEST option, and by design of the founding fathers...

We have all.... too often....
Surrendered our responsibilities and stewardship of freedoms to the popularity contest we call presidential politics ---

But our true and authoritative representation has always remained in the Halls of Congress....

Sooooo let's throw them all out....
And replace them in toto

We only need 535 genuine...
Right-thinking...
God fearing...
Tax-paying....
Patriotic Americans!!

JMHO...

20 posted on 01/23/2008 7:40:26 AM PST by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: cripplecreek

Does the seat look like it could swing to the RATs, or is his district solidly Conservative?


21 posted on 01/23/2008 7:41:25 AM PST by lormand (Paulrhoids - The Hemorrhoids of American Politics)
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To: philsfan24
it wont happen this year but theres a shot at 2010. if a dem wins the presidency, the gop will most likely win the house in 2010. the senate looks a little tougher but definitely possible. could be looking at another revolution like ‘94, after 2 years of complete liberal power (both houses of congress and presidency) ripping apart the country.

Exactly. That's really my only hope at this point.
22 posted on 01/23/2008 7:41:25 AM PST by Antoninus (I survived Roe v. Wade. 40,000,000 of my generation did not.)
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To: B Knotts
You’re right, but we have to recruit conservative candidates to run. The usual RINOs in Congress won’t do.

I completely agree on this point. But I'm tired of being fooled by those candidates who run as conservative, or really are conservative.....UNTIL they get in office then turn left.

23 posted on 01/23/2008 7:41:59 AM PST by YellowRoseofTx
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To: Trueblackman

McCain/Thompson ‘08.

It will be alright.


24 posted on 01/23/2008 7:42:09 AM PST by DogandPonyShow (America, the Light of the World.)
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To: Trueblackman

Please consider Dr. Deborah Travis Honeycutt, strong African American conservative in GA. Family medicine physician, active in healthcare issues, taxcuts, controlling the borders, pro life, national security, economic develppment, gun rights, and military supporter.
http://www.honeycuttforcongress.com/


25 posted on 01/23/2008 7:42:17 AM PST by enough_idiocy (Romney/Thompson or Steele '08)
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To: Trueblackman

Sincerely, have YOU ever thought of running? Just curious.


26 posted on 01/23/2008 7:45:40 AM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: roses of sharon
It is time for members of FR to run for Congress.

If only I were old enough and had a load of money to spend on it.
27 posted on 01/23/2008 7:49:02 AM PST by JamesP81 ("I am against "zero tolerance" policies. It is a crutch for idiots." --FReeper Tenacious 1)
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To: Trueblackman

Ain’t looking good.


28 posted on 01/23/2008 7:50:27 AM PST by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Trueblackman

Buck it up.

Elect Mitt Romney President.

Voters will then, be treated to the stark comparison, daily, of our successful, smart, family-centered Republican president ... and the whining democrats as represented by Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi.

Congress will go GOP, in 2 years. Max.


29 posted on 01/23/2008 7:52:04 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (So-called free trade advocates = "China Firsters")
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To: theDentist

Nah I would make too many enemies in both parties, as I would serve the Constitution and not special interest.


30 posted on 01/23/2008 7:53:50 AM PST by Trueblackman (Terrorism and Liberalism never sleep and neither do I)
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To: Trueblackman

Thank you....I’m in a fighting mood also...Not ready to give up by any means. Now if we can motivate the arm-chair conservatives to quite bitching and get into action, maybe we can accomplish something.


31 posted on 01/23/2008 7:54:16 AM PST by hope (Isaiah 53 nothing redacted)
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To: philsfan24

“it wont happen this year but theres a shot at 2010. if a dem wins the presidency, the gop will most likely win the house in 2010. the senate looks a little tougher but definitely possible. could be looking at another revolution like ‘94, after 2 years of complete liberal power (both houses of congress and presidency) ripping apart the country.”

Not so easy, I fear. A Dem Pres with a Dem Congress can wreak havoc on voting constituencies and their makeup.

You may NEVER see Repub control if you don’t block Hillabama by ANY MEANS NECESSARY.


32 posted on 01/23/2008 7:54:23 AM PST by StatenIsland (I'm a Dead-Cat Republican. I'd vote for a dead cat before I'd vote for a Democrat.)
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To: lormand

Duncan Hunter took the seat from a democrat nearly 30 years ago so I have to believe it could stay in the hands of a man with the same name.


33 posted on 01/23/2008 7:56:44 AM PST by cripplecreek (Duncan Hunter, Conservative excellence in action.)
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To: Trueblackman

That’s the problem with Politics.. you MUST make deals and betray your beliefs, principles and constituents to get your bills passed, and you’re doomed to 1 term for not doing so.


34 posted on 01/23/2008 7:57:12 AM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Sorry I can vote for Mitt, he is a Northeastern Republican and all Northeastern Republicans are interested in is making friends and being popular with liberals, eating cheese, drinking red wine and losing elections.


35 posted on 01/23/2008 7:58:02 AM PST by Trueblackman (Terrorism and Liberalism never sleep and neither do I)
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To: Trueblackman

Sorry I can’t vote for Mitt.


36 posted on 01/23/2008 7:58:40 AM PST by Trueblackman (Terrorism and Liberalism never sleep and neither do I)
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To: DogandPonyShow
"McCain/Thompson ‘08.

It will be alright."

Oh, yeah, it'll be fine if you want Soros running the country.

37 posted on 01/23/2008 8:01:15 AM PST by penowa
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To: Trueblackman

Not true.

I respect your opinion; my own is Romney’s (by far) the best GOP candidate, other than Duncan Hunter.


38 posted on 01/23/2008 8:01:25 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (So-called free trade advocates = "China Firsters")
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To: Trueblackman

Voting for Mitt is voting for more of the same in my opinion. The GOP has become a pack of cowering dogs slinking along behind the democrats in hopes of picking up crumbs of support. The democrats are happily following the red brick road and following them is following the red brick road.


39 posted on 01/23/2008 8:06:27 AM PST by cripplecreek (Duncan Hunter, Conservative excellence in action.)
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To: StatenIsland
You may NEVER see Repub control if you don’t block Hillabama by ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

Keeping Hillobama out of the WH is a worthy goal for conservatives to work towards, in and of itself. If we fail, we may not have a chance to come back in 2010 or 2012.

40 posted on 01/23/2008 8:08:12 AM PST by chimera
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To: Trueblackman

Why? When we had it, we squandered it and became just like Democrats. I think the GOP does better in opposition. Maybe if we can get another leader like Newt, who doesn’t shoot himself in the foot (or in the b@lls), we can take Congress and something with it.


41 posted on 01/23/2008 8:08:17 AM PST by Little Ray (Rudy Guiliani: If his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
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To: B Knotts

Bingo! You get the award. The GOP dumped the conservatives last go around.


42 posted on 01/23/2008 8:09:49 AM PST by dforest (Don't even ask me to vote for McCain, Rudy, or Huckster.)
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To: Trueblackman
There will be a lot of work to do, especially if Clinton or Obama wins. For the dims, it's a win-win situation - if they win, they get the first woman President or the first black President and another 'trophy' to put in their 'diversity' case. I thought we had a good chance with Thompson, but with him out of the race we're left with Romney or McCain and some pretty poor prospects.

Congress will be our only hope to put the brakes on a democratic President and the legislative tyranny he or she will unleash.
43 posted on 01/23/2008 8:14:52 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Reluctant Mitt Supporter as of 01/22)
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To: Little Ray

No those were Republicans who did not govern like Conservatives.


44 posted on 01/23/2008 8:14:54 AM PST by Trueblackman (Terrorism and Liberalism never sleep and neither do I)
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To: Trueblackman

DUUUHHHHHHH!!

People, the most important thing we can remember about all of this is that the Gang of 535 (aka congress) can bring this out-of-control government and spending to a screeching halt tomorrow at noon — IF they wanted to.

But they DON’T — for several reasons:

1. They understand the need to vacuum the excess FRAUDS (Federal Reserve Accounting Unit Denominators) — there are no “dollars” circulating now! — out of circulation BEFORE the bulk of the dumb masses (say it really fast for maximum effect) catch on to the resultant inflation. If you question that statement, ask yourself why else would a criminal enterprise (the federal government) having the power to “create” “money” with the stroke of a pen NEEDS YOURS every April 15th?

2. While the dumb masses rant about the abusive practices of this top criminal enterprise’s subsidiary criminal enterprise (the IRS), the big guys can pose and posture for the cameras each year about this time that “something MUST be done to reign in the abuses of the IRS,” NOTHING WILL BE DONE until we clean house on Capitol Hill and get back to the HONEST, CONSTITUTIONAL MONEY called for at Art.1, Sect. 10. They’ve been playing a destructive game of 3 card monte with us for so long – and getting away with it – that, as Herman Cain’s book title declares – “They Think You’re STUPID.” And, hell, for MOST of the dumb masses, they’re right.

And THAT process starts in YOUR STATE and CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT by finding and supporting decent candidates — at ALL leverls — who will go to YOUR state capitol and Malfunction Junction and do that house cleaning. Not marching on Washington...not sending “money” to the RNC (LOL!)...not writing poison pen letters to these current jerks...but THROWING OUT THE CURRENT JERKS and doing it as many times as necessary to get it done.

And for you who, like a sad number of the dumb masses who THINK YOUR GUY IS OK, go to www.trimonline.org for your guy’s voting record on taxes and spending.

I could go on for volumes but you get the idea.

One final thought: RE-ELECT NOBODY!!!!!


45 posted on 01/23/2008 8:16:11 AM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: Trueblackman
Conservatives need to regain the reigns of power within the Congress.

I'm with you on that. Although I probably won't vote for President (unless the convention is brokered and gives us someone other than one of these four clowns), I will proudly vote to get Jim Ryun back into Congress.

46 posted on 01/23/2008 8:23:50 AM PST by CommerceComet (Mitt Romney: boldly saying whatever the audience wants to hear.)
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To: Dick Bachert
One final thought: RE-ELECT NOBODY!!!!!

You mean...No Amnesty for Incuments?

47 posted on 01/23/2008 8:27:32 AM PST by rabscuttle385 (It takes courage to grow up and turn out to be who you really are.)
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To: Dick Bachert
Err, I can't spell. No Amnesty for Incumbents?
48 posted on 01/23/2008 8:27:56 AM PST by rabscuttle385 (It takes courage to grow up and turn out to be who you really are.)
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To: Trueblackman
It may be too early to discuss this with any degree of reason; but, beneath all the rhetoric and parody of this campaign there seems to be a death wish within the republican party.

Reading down this thread I see:

We need conservatives in congress - after the only two former congressional conservatives to run for president have been scratched from the race. The only two serious candidates still standing are the big business candidate and the open borders candidate - the other three will fade now that they've sucked support from Fred and DH.

No one wants to vote for a RINO - but all the advice we're getting is to vote for Mitt (maybe it's milestone fever - we're to get either the first black, the first female, or the first Mormon president).

We're supposed to develop new and presumably real, conservatives for the future - but it's already questionable that DH's son can take that seat. [The neighborhood is overrun with both dem's and Arnold pubbies - I'd guess that Duncan's constituency is now outnumbered despite the heavy illegal traffic.]

Oh, and developing future candidates is in reality a LONG term project - particularly against institutional opposition. Maybe we're looking for someone to run against Chelsea?

The core of this thread is salvaging the Republican party but after this kabuki I wonder if it is worth saving.

The one sentiment I can wholeheartedly endorse is "reelect no one" no matter which party it may hurt the most.

[Maybe I'll see it differently after my medicine]

49 posted on 01/23/2008 9:32:17 AM PST by norton (There is still no third choice - there is no longer any choice)
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To: ArrogantBustard
I agree. Help me do exactly that.

Congressman Billybob

Latest article, "Snow, Ice, and Lame Tom"

A Freeper in Congress? Please act now.

50 posted on 01/23/2008 9:57:20 AM PST by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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