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If McCain wins the nomination, will you support him?
01.09.08 | perdogg

Posted on 01/09/2008 8:11:46 AM PST by Perdogg

1) Vote for McCain

2) Vote Dims - Kevorkian vote

3) Don't vote

4) Third party?


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2008; elections; marines; mccain; nh2008; vanity
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Gee with all of this "I will have to hold my nose" I'm thinking about starting a scented clothes pin business. Now what scents to offer, decisions decisions....

An easier decision than being forced to vote for a Rino. Eegad. Ron Paul will probably be the 3rd party (constitution) choice so I don't even have that one to fall back on. No matter what looks like I'm going to need one of those clothes pins.

501 posted on 01/09/2008 10:07:46 AM PST by conservativegramma
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To: Perdogg
2000 Summary:

Gore, Al 76,897 49.73
Bradley, Bill 70,502 45.59

Democrat: 154,000 total votes

GOP:

McCain, John 115,606 48.53
Bush, George W. 72,330 30.36
Forbes, "Steve" 30,166 12.66

Republican: 236,000 total votes

502 posted on 01/09/2008 10:08:43 AM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Perdogg

Third Part. McCain is a Democrat in RINO clothing. I will NOT vote for him and I will campaign for the third party.


503 posted on 01/09/2008 10:08:50 AM PST by Centurion2000 (It's only arrogance if you can't back it up.)
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To: montag813

Really? That’s a hard call.


504 posted on 01/09/2008 10:09:18 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: JasonC
You are being quite short sighted in your analysis. First, I doubt most consider Bush too conservative. His disapproval rating is due to many things including failing the nation on conservative issues. Many are upset with his big spending habits, his failure to enforce the border, and his failure to support Israel. His problems in the Iraq War are noted by conservatives and liberals. So, Bush’s problems are not due to his conservative positions.

Second, if the nation elects a Dem and it is a disaster, who will the country turn to? It will be to my 20% party that supported true conservative principles. If you elect a liberal disguised as a conservative and it is a disaster, you have destroyed the GOP and have placed the Dems in power for years. Think through the 1976 election and maybe you will understand.

505 posted on 01/09/2008 10:11:40 AM PST by MBB1984
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To: lasereye
The leadership of the Republican Party.

I've been hearing this "vote for the lesser of two evils" crap for decades.

What has it gotten us?

Evil.

Count me out.

And don't blame me if evil (whether lesser or greater) gets elected.

Blame the people who voted for evil. Especially blame the people who voted for evil in the primaries ... and blame the party hacks who gave institutional support to evil.

If you have to "hold your nose" ... you're voting for evil.

506 posted on 01/09/2008 10:11:43 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: HangnJudge

Gas mask.
yes


507 posted on 01/09/2008 10:12:03 AM PST by a real Sheila ("President Obama." Dohhh! That is PAINFUL to say! God help us!)
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To: ArrogantBustard
To all those of you who jabber about "holding your nose".

The Republican Party doesn't give a $#!+ what you do with your nose. All they care about is what you do with your ballot.

If you (continue to) cast your ballot for a lightweight socialist, they'll know that they can continue to serve up lightweight socialist candidates, without consequence.

That's nice, if you're a lightweight socialist.

If you're conservative, or libertarian, or federalist ... it's stupid.

I'll tell you what's stupid: Your post is stupid.

The Republican Party is made up of individuals. You aren't a Republican, evidenced by your repeated use of the pronoun "they" to refer to members of the party.

As a non-Republican, it behooves you to foster the defeat of Republican Presidential candidates.

As a Republican and a conservative, it behooves me to foster the defeat of Democrat Presidential candidates, as even RINOs are more conservative than ther Socialists currently comprising the Democrat Party.

Non-Republican "conservatives" are all phony, because they enable the election of Democrats like Edwards, Obama and Hillary.

NO CONSERVATIVE ENABLES SUCH SCENARIOS BY VOTING THIRD-PARTY OR BY STAYING HOME.

You guys are as transparent as Hillary's tears.

508 posted on 01/09/2008 10:12:03 AM PST by Chunga (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: VirginiaConstitutionalist
Third Party. Wayne Allyn Root, the pro-war Libertarian, is looking pretty good right now.

from the number of posts even here in FR - with their blindness - I guess I'll crank up my old singer sewing machine and crank out burkas - and hopefully make enough money to disappear deep into the woods somewhere for a few years of safety -

I don't know who frightens me more - letting the Socialists in or people whose egos get in the way of common sense...

Looks like it'll be 2006 all over again - "teach the pubbies a lesson" - that worked out well = gave us Reid and Pelosi...

and it looks like none of you who cut off your noses to spite your face then have learned a da*m thing.

509 posted on 01/09/2008 10:12:05 AM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: Perdogg

Remember how we ended up with 8 years of the Clintons? It pains me to admit that because Bush 41 pulled out of Iraq without taking out Saddam, I voted third party.

UNLESS YOU WANT HILLARY OR OBAMA, DON’T MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE I DID IN ‘92.

Hunter or Thompson are my first choices, but I will absolutely support McCain if he gets the nomination.


510 posted on 01/09/2008 10:13:03 AM PST by chronicles
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To: Perdogg

I don’t trust Snake/Maverick McCain. But I trust the leftist/socialist DemocRat candidates even LESS.

So yes.

I’ll do what I gotta do (per usual) to try to keep the DemocRats from sliming their way back into power.

Sidenote: In this current political system and environment.....voting for a third party equates to essentially:

a) wasting your vote, b) throwing the election to the DemocRats, c) a really, really stupid thing to do.

I wish it were not so. But that’s the reality.


511 posted on 01/09/2008 10:13:12 AM PST by XenaLee
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To: doug from upland

Doug post 498...is absolutely perfectly truthful!

Oh my.......That woman makes me shudder!


512 posted on 01/09/2008 10:13:44 AM PST by LadyPilgrim ((Jesus is real, He will never fail...I will serve him now, and throughout all eternity! ))
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To: RinaseaofDs

We have a country here with 300 million plus people, nonsense about a political party “deserving” Hilary or Obama is just that. Sorry, but soreheads like you are part of the problem.


513 posted on 01/09/2008 10:14:17 AM PST by Williams
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To: Chunga
Bwahahahahahahaha!!!!!

If there were a "jumping to conclusions" event in the Olympics, I'd advise you to try out for the team.

Oh, yes:

Piss OFF!

514 posted on 01/09/2008 10:14:42 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Perdogg

>>>If McCain wins the nomination, will you support him?

NO!

5) Write in


515 posted on 01/09/2008 10:15:15 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: lasereye

Third Party - Better to go outside the party than to reward them for going down the toilet with McCain.


516 posted on 01/09/2008 10:15:30 AM PST by Paco2000
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To: MBB1984
I see, so your clever plan is to elect democrats and hope they are a disaster. For that matter, since whenever dems govern it is necessarily a disaster, and whenever republicans who aren't conservative enough for you govern it is also necessarily a disaster, you are simply guaranteed a disaster unless your favorite guys are in office. And after each disaster, the electorate always sees this and goes right to your guys. Now I understand why conservatives have won every (or every other) election since Jefferson, it is so clear.

But anyone interested in winning this one has to go elsewhere. You've nothing to offer them, but smugness about ensuing national disaster.

517 posted on 01/09/2008 10:16:53 AM PST by JasonC
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To: Perdogg
No question, yes.
I will vote for any Republican over the pro New Deal, pro anti-military, pro baby killing Rat nominee.
Except for Ron Paul.

But I will work to get a better crop of candidate in the meantime. If I am doing that I have earned the right to complain. If I don’t help to get better Rep’s nominated; I have no right to complain.

518 posted on 01/09/2008 10:16:53 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland ("We have to drain the swamp" George Bush, September 2001)
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To: saminfl

do you have any reason to believe mccain would nominate good judges?
the blue dog dems will be our greatest hope.


519 posted on 01/09/2008 10:17:13 AM PST by libbylu
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To: Perdogg

I’ll vote 3rd party.


520 posted on 01/09/2008 10:17:27 AM PST by EagleMamaMT ("Uncle Sugar: Handle it at the border or Uncle Winchester will handle it at the porch." Squantos)
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To: maine-iac7
That is an amazing sewing machine you have.


521 posted on 01/09/2008 10:17:31 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Primetimedonna
Can’t vote for him....he scares me!

More than Comrad Shrillary"

More than turning Iraq Afghanistan and the rest of the world over to the barbarians?

On a "Scare-scale", people like you are right up there

1. Shrillary - 2.Obama 3. the blind (people like you) 4. Romney 5. McCain/Huckabee/Guliani

522 posted on 01/09/2008 10:17:46 AM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: Williams
Yeah I'd say soreheads are pretty comprehensively the problem, all the way down. On the left too.
523 posted on 01/09/2008 10:18:39 AM PST by JasonC
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To: Perdogg

I may be forced to be independent of Mr. Independent.


524 posted on 01/09/2008 10:18:44 AM PST by Redcloak (Dingos ate my tagline.)
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To: Perdogg

I will vote for McCain.


525 posted on 01/09/2008 10:20:50 AM PST by Captain Jack Aubrey (There's not a moment to lose.)
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To: Chunga
Fake conservatives sit out elections or vote third-party.

Grow up, disgruntled FReepers.

Spot on

526 posted on 01/09/2008 10:21:18 AM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: maine-iac7

” Good for you - and if voters like you let the Socialists in = after they turn Iraq, Afghanistan and the world back to the islamofacists - you can look in the mirror every day and see someone who has/and will continue to have, the blood of, first, many of our troops, and then, increasingly around the world, blood of tens of thousands of civilians, on your hands.”

VS electing a Republican socialist?

I won’t have blood on my hands - the RINO’s who nominated these goombahs, and the Bushes, and Roves who enabled them will.

That dog don’t hunt anymore.


527 posted on 01/09/2008 10:21:33 AM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (The GOP is "Whig"ing out.)
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To: Perdogg

I wonder if Bloomberg will run with obama or run obama as independent if hilary is nominated.


528 posted on 01/09/2008 10:22:59 AM PST by libbylu
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To: nicmarlo

I wouldn’t support him as lettuce picker. There’s no office that I would ever pull the lever on for insane McPain.


529 posted on 01/09/2008 10:23:30 AM PST by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Perdogg
Oh, I'd stay home on election day, and register as an "unenrolled voter" in my home state ASAP (i.e., an Independent).

If McCain is widely considered as representative of the Republican Party (who is the first Pubbie to cross the aisle to make nice with the Dems on virtually every contentious issue we've faced in the last 20 years), then I am not a Republican. He routinely votes against my interests. He's a "big government" status quo kind of guy who'd be the last person on earth I'd expect to really try to promote federalism, to reform or downsize Washington.

Though he gets high marks for some reason on international relations and military affairs, I can't even trust him there (e.g., his pontificating, self-serving hostility to waterboarding).

IMHO, he's an arrogant, nasty narcissist, a spoiler and disrupter of a once-great political party. His election as president would tell me the GOP is dead, de facto if not de jure.

530 posted on 01/09/2008 10:24:50 AM PST by betty boop (This country was founded on religious principles. Without God, there is no America. -- Ben Stein)
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To: Calpernia

You just know I’m gonna steal that-right? lol


531 posted on 01/09/2008 10:25:15 AM PST by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: maine-iac7

>>>>If the candidate isn’t Thompson, Hunter, or Paul, I’m voting 3rd party.<

>>Good for you - and if voters like you let the Socialists in = after they turn Iraq, Afghanistan and the world back to the islamofacists - you can look in the mirror every day and see someone who has/and will continue to have, the blood of, first, many of our troops, and then, increasingly around the world, blood of tens of thousands of civilians, on your hands.

How exactly does that result differ from what would happen with a RINO (read Socialist-Lite) in the White House? You present a false dichotomy.


532 posted on 01/09/2008 10:25:21 AM PST by vikingd00d
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To: what_not2007
But I’m recently thinking that 4 years of the Dems may not be a bad thing in the long run, because a disasterous liberal term will enable the conservative party to regain its strength and possibly take over the WH and Congress/Senate 4 years after that.

that's the line of thinking in 2006 that gave us Reid and Pelosi 0 that worked out well.

That aside - if the Comrades get in the WH now - dedicated to turn Iraq, Afghanistan and the rest of the world over to the barbarians - we'll have a hellava lot more to worry about long before any next election.

We've become a nation of ostriches - many here in FR

533 posted on 01/09/2008 10:25:29 AM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: Williams

No, it’s people who will eat whatever the party will serve that are the problem.

Enjoy your lunch, whatever that may end up being.


534 posted on 01/09/2008 10:25:50 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: betty boop

When a RINO wins in New Hampshire and FReepers cheer, the GOP is dead.


535 posted on 01/09/2008 10:27:02 AM PST by B4Ranch (( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share." ))
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To: processing please hold
There’s no office that I would ever pull the lever on for insane McPain.

ditto that here!

536 posted on 01/09/2008 10:27:16 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Billthedrill

>>That’s politics. You give up some of what you want and get some of what you want so that you don’t end up with none of what you want. I visualize it as cutting off my foot to save my life. Call me “Mr. Cheerful” this morning.

So this election you cut off one foot, and in the next election you cut off the other. The problem with your line of thought is that eventually, you WILL run out of body parts to sacrifice.


537 posted on 01/09/2008 10:27:37 AM PST by vikingd00d
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To: Clemenza
which is precisely what I did in 1996, when I cast my first ever Presidential vote for Harry Browne

just Wow - didn't YOU make a big difference


538 posted on 01/09/2008 10:30:10 AM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: Chunga

>>NO CONSERVATIVE ENABLES SUCH SCENARIOS BY VOTING THIRD-PARTY OR BY STAYING HOME.

You seem to be confusing “Republican” with “Conservative”. The two are not necessarily the same thing.


539 posted on 01/09/2008 10:30:12 AM PST by vikingd00d
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To: West Coast Conservative

I’d rather eat dirt than vote for McShame! And I’m an Arizonan!


540 posted on 01/09/2008 10:30:40 AM PST by Bizhvywt
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To: B4Ranch
When a RINO wins in New Hampshire and FReepers cheer, the GOP is dead.

Truer words were never spoken, B4.

541 posted on 01/09/2008 10:31:14 AM PST by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: maine-iac7; processing please hold
Maine-iac has the sewing machine out. I'm sure another one can be made.

Wanna buy a burka?

 

Thanks Tomkow6!

542 posted on 01/09/2008 10:32:23 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: ArrogantBustard
Bwahahahahahahaha!!!!!

If there were a "jumping to conclusions" event in the Olympics, I'd advise you to try out for the team.

Oh, yes:

Piss OFF!

What a chump reply. De rigueur for phony disenchanted "conservatives."

543 posted on 01/09/2008 10:32:26 AM PST by Chunga (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: Bizhvywt
I’d rather eat dirt than vote for McShame!

AND, an article posted on FR said eating dirt was good for you. :)

544 posted on 01/09/2008 10:33:05 AM PST by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Perdogg

I will not be voting for McCain. I remember who this guy is and he is as ugly as Hillary.


545 posted on 01/09/2008 10:33:29 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: vikingd00d
You seem to be confusing “Republican” with “Conservative”. The two are not necessarily the same thing.

You seem to be spouting learning-disabled rhetoric.

546 posted on 01/09/2008 10:33:50 AM PST by Chunga (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: Perdogg

Third party. McCain is worthless - I might as well vote for Hillary.


547 posted on 01/09/2008 10:33:57 AM PST by Salo
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To: nicmarlo

That man’s off his rocker. lol


548 posted on 01/09/2008 10:34:18 AM PST by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: maine-iac7

“That aside - if the Comrades get in the WH now - dedicated to turn Iraq, Afghanistan and the rest of the world over to the barbarians - we’ll have a hellava lot more to worry about long before any next election.”

Perhaps we won’t make it to the next election, if that happens.


549 posted on 01/09/2008 10:35:09 AM PST by hoe_cake
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To: Perdogg

The premise of your question is entertaining (especially in view of all of the comments)! It is, however, false! McCain’s success is entirely dependent upon primary votes! If voters, in this forum, vote for either Thompson or Hunter, in the primaries, the issue of McCain’s succession is moot!


550 posted on 01/09/2008 10:35:26 AM PST by old school
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