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Witness: Woman Was Impaled Alive (Serb woman, according to Croat medical corps colonel)
Javno ^ | September 27, 2007

Posted on 09/27/2007 12:34:22 PM PDT by joan

Retired Croatian colonel Marko Jagetic says that 70 bodies of Serb civilians were collected after the campaign Medacki Dzep.

Retired Croatian Army medical corps colonel Marko Jagetic testified at the trial of generals Rahim Ademi and Mirko Norac. He said that, after the campaign Medacki Dzep, more than 70 corpses of Serb civilians were collected in nearby villages and that many of them had marks that indicated torture and massacre.

- Almost all the executed [people] were civilians and no weapons or documents were found on any of them – said Jagetic, who was the army doctor in charge of the team that collected the bodies of the dead after the campaign.

Following the order of Kornelije Brkic, the head of medical corps at central command, he was to find 52 bodies for a trade, but those bodies could not have signs of torture or abuse. He says that Brkic told him that, if the opposite were the case, his own body may end up in the group for the exchange.

Most bodies had gunshot wounds that, as the witness says, could not have been afflicted from close proximity. There were, however, many cuts, says Jagetic, adding that many of the injuries pointed to heavy torture and a massacre of civilians.

For instance, on the body of Andjelija Jovic, he saw injuries caused by the victim being impaled alive. Former head of forensic medicine in Rijeka Renata Dobi-Babic also confirmed this to him. She was at the helm of the medical team in charge of getting the 52 bodies ready for the exchange.

Jagetic: It was important to move the bodies before UNPROFOR arrived

The bodies that could not be traded because they had torture marks were buried using a mechanical shovel near Gospic or thrown into septic tanks.

- Command was not interested [in knowing] what would happen with the bodies that were not going to be traded. The only thing that was important was that all the bodies be moved from the zone UNPROFOR was entering – said Jagetic.

He also said that there were more men than women among the victims, “mostly middle-aged people.”

He added that, in the field, he saw traces of torture, two men hanged from a tree with a chain and a rope, and that he discovered remains of a human spine and pelvis on a site where a house had burned down.

He also heard about the crimes from soldiers and, a year after the campaign, one of the soldiers had recalled that they had roasted a lamb under the bodies of the two hanged civilians.

- When UNPROFOR started entering the area, they excavated a chetnik leader who had been cut to pieces alive for two hours. He was then put in a trench, covered with earth and a mechanical shovel passed over him – testified Jagetic.

He also said that, in the course of the campaign, houses were pillaged and burned down and cattle was taken away.

Norac: Jagetic was forced to retire because he liked to have a few and this is why he is resentful

Jagetic says that, during the conflict, he sometimes felt that it was admiral Davor Domazet Loso who commanded the campaign who, in his words, ordered artillery attacks on Udbina and Korenica.

- UNPROFOR asked that the fire be ceased and they threatened to start bombing our towns too – said Jagetic.

After his testimony, accused general Norac said that it was not true that the discovered bodies were civilians because Serbian soldiers changed into civilian clothes. He added that he found Jagetic’s testimony pretentious and lacking credibility.

- Jagetic had to retire because he liked to have a few, so he is resentful – said Norac, to which the witness smiled and said that he did not feel it necessary to comment.

Residents of the villages around Medacki Dzep – Mile Drca, Milan Pavlica, Milka Radakovic and Nikola Vidovic – were supposed to testify before Jagetic, but none of them appeared in court.

Pavlica had passed away and the remaining three either did not receive subpoenas or were not found at their addressed in Serbia.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: anticatholic; balkans; bosnia; catholic; clintonlegacy; croatatrocities; croatia; operationstorm; orthodox; serbia; ustashe; warcrimes; wrongside
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To: Diocletian; montyspython

Sounds like Martic was trying to save the civilians from Croat brutalities. One need only look at what they did to those who remained to see the wisdom in that.


21 posted on 10/01/2007 2:31:55 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: FormerLib

Yes, you’re right: the 200,000 Serbs who stayed in Croatia behind Croatian lines during the entire war (and still live there) are proof of your assertion. LMAO


22 posted on 10/01/2007 2:41:54 PM PDT by Diocletian
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To: Diocletian
...who stayed in Croatia behind Croatian lines...

So you admit that all of those within the Serbian section were driven out or murdered.

Yes, exactly as we have asserted.

By the way, the last time you asserted that there were about 120,000 Serbs in the Croatian area. The proof that a number is a lie is when it changes at each repetition.

23 posted on 10/02/2007 4:46:06 AM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: FormerLib
So you admit that all of those within the Serbian section were driven out or murdered.

No, I take the position of the Serbian leaders of the "RSK" who admit that the Serbs ordered out their own population. Are you calling the "RSK" leadership liars? LMAO

24 posted on 10/02/2007 6:34:46 AM PDT by Diocletian
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To: Diocletian

I see, so the individual with the knife and his commanding officer bare no responsibility, nice logic. I’ll remember that one.


25 posted on 10/02/2007 6:52:35 AM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: Diocletian

No, I’m calling your Ustashe scum for murdering civilians.

I’m glad articles such as this are coming out for the world to see. People deserve to know the truth about the bloody history of Croatian states.


26 posted on 10/02/2007 8:21:38 AM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: FormerLib
The few murders that did occur are paled to by the numbers of murders committed by the Serbs in Croatia against Croatians and other non-Serbs.

That's the main reason why the Serbs of Croatia were by and large untrusted by the outside world. Too brutal, too violent...too costly. And that's why the Serbs of Serbia and the Serbs of Bosnia sold you out.

And that's why your leadership ordered you to flee.

27 posted on 10/02/2007 8:27:34 AM PDT by Diocletian
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To: FormerLib

Enjoy the Vukovar movie when it comes out


28 posted on 10/28/2007 3:46:15 AM PDT by Joey Silvera
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To: Joey Silvera

Yes, the Serbian paramilitaries, upon finding the dozens or Serbian corpses, obviously tortured by the Croat soldiers, were very indiscriminate in their dispensing of vengenance.

As always, however, the fact that the entire incident was initiated by the slaughter of innocent Serbian civilians is completely ignored and Hollywood’s fictions concerning the entire war always gloss over those facts.


29 posted on 10/28/2007 11:34:16 AM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: docbnj

Careful. There’s a large contingent on FR who believe only the people they don’t like are capable of atrocities.


30 posted on 10/28/2007 11:43:48 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: joan

I won’t hold my breath waiting for ABC/CBS/NBC/CNN to report how
things are going in the peaceful remains of Yugoslavia.

Besides, we all know that Serbs are the real culprits in The War
On Terror.

Hollywood has told us so.

(/SARC)


31 posted on 10/28/2007 11:46:09 AM PDT by VOA
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